12 messages2007-09-11 02:47 UTCthrough 2015-04-10 14:21 UTC
batteries
Marsh Wise2007-09-11 02:47 UTC
So, which is better, a marine deep cycle battery or a golf cart batt?
Mine croaked and I nee dot get a new one... suggestions?
Thanks, Marsh
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Re: [Cal_Boats] batteries
Kirk Grier2007-09-11 04:47 UTC
Marsh,
As I recall the 6V GC batts give the most Ah capacity for the buck. They
are designed for cycles that will kill some of the lower quality "deep
cycles" that are little more than rebadged automotive batteries. Calder
and Casey book's both cover what works where best. The Wind & Sun guys
have some good info:
http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm
Footloose came with (4) US battery 6V GC's in series-parallel for a
450Ah 12V system house bank. They took abuse from a drain-bamaged Guest
charger that baked them a couple times. They also recovered from a
week where the marina was working on power, blew my shore power, and the
12v frig drained them ***flat***. 1st order battery abuse. Since they
were mounted high and aft, under the lazarettes, I was considering
something else mounted somewhere else.
Anyway, before our Catalina week trip last month I decided to replace
with (2) Trojan ST105's 6V's to reduce the weight and get back to "full
strength". Less than $100 each, 225Ah 447min reserve at 25amps, I think
the warranty is 3 years, first 2 full replacement. The old 4 went to a
docmate / liveaboard where they are still ticking.
As always, your mileage may vary. BTW, the wind and sun Iota DLS-55 with
IQ4 makes a great 12V charger / power supply for well under $200 if one
needs to charge upwards of 400Ah banks. Nope, you can't splash it, but
mine's mounted in the stbd quarter berth. If it gets wet there, I
probably have bigger problems.
Kirk
Footloose 2-34
Ventura, CA
Marsh Wise wrote:
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> So, which is better, a marine deep cycle battery or a golf cart batt?
> Mine croaked and I nee dot get a new one... suggestions?
> Thanks, Marsh
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Batteries
Monte West2015-04-10 03:33 UTC
I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
RE: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
r good2015-04-10 04:06 UTC
why two? I only use one in my T2.Reggie
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:33:41 -0500
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
Monte West2015-04-10 04:51 UTC
It's already rigged for two. Can I get away with running only one without having issues! Guess I just answered my own question, mostly only running daytime and its only for starting the inboard motor at the marina. Thanks Monte
> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:06 PM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> why two? I only use one in my T2.
> Reggie
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> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:33:41 -0500
> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
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> I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
David Owen2015-04-10 05:33 UTC
Oh no. I hope we don’t lose you, but I can understand you wanting to be on a more competitive boat.
David
> On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Monte West mo… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> It's already rigged for two. Can I get away with running only one without having issues! Guess I just answered my own question, mostly only running daytime and its only for starting the inboard motor at the marina. Thanks Monte
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:06 PM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> why two? I only use one in my T2.
>> Reggie
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>> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:33:41 -0500
>> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
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>> I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
David Owen2015-04-10 05:37 UTC
What I meant to say was two batteries are great if you are cruising, but not necessary otherwise. ha ha ha
Please ignore my pathetic plea to my rock star crew-goddess who is deserting me for a J/70 this week.
David
> On Apr 9, 2015, at 10:33 PM, David Owen dw… [at] me.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Oh no. I hope we don’t lose you, but I can understand you wanting to be on a more competitive boat.
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>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:51 PM, Monte West mo… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:mo… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> It's already rigged for two. Can I get away with running only one without having issues! Guess I just answered my own question, mostly only running daytime and its only for starting the inboard motor at the marina. Thanks Monte
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:06 PM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>>> why two? I only use one in my T2.
>>> Reggie
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>>> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:33:41 -0500
>>> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
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>>> I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
r good2015-04-10 11:04 UTC
You can run just one as your start battery. If your lights are set up to be run from the second battery and you need to use them, just turn your battery switch to the "both" position.
A good combination starting/deep cycle wet cell battery will probably be your best buy.
Which engine do you have?Reggie
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:51:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
It's already rigged for two. Can I get away with running only one without having issues! Guess I just answered my own question, mostly only running daytime and its only for starting the inboard motor at the marina. Thanks Monte
On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:06 PM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
why two? I only use one in my T2.Reggie
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:33:41 -0500
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
Michael D2015-04-10 13:02 UTC
Monte,
We have a Cal 2-27. Magic carries two group 31 deep cycle batteries on an isolator and controlled by a 1-both-2 battery switch. It works for us, as we take Magic to the Bahamas and spend time on the hook. While we have LEDs most everywhere, we also run a Dometic CF50 CoolFreeze Portable Refrigerator / Freezer. Our diesel is easily started by either deep cycle battery.
If you are only day sailing, you can probably get by with just a single group 24 battery.
Michael
Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
Monte West2015-04-10 13:51 UTC
Yanmar single cylinder diesel I think 8 horses
> On Apr 10, 2015, at 6:04 AM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> You can run just one as your start battery. If your lights are set up to be run from the second battery and you need to use them, just turn your battery switch to the "both" position.
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> A good combination starting/deep cycle wet cell battery will probably be your best buy.
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> Which engine do you have?
> Reggie
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> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 23:51:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
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> It's already rigged for two. Can I get away with running only one without having issues! Guess I just answered my own question, mostly only running daytime and its only for starting the inboard motor at the marina. Thanks Monte
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:06 PM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> why two? I only use one in my T2.
> Reggie
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> To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 22:33:41 -0500
> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
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> I have Cal T2, "Interlude" needing to replace batteries. I'm not well versed in batteries, just know I need two, any recommendations? Thanks Monte, Lake Conroe, Texas
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
Monte West2015-04-10 13:53 UTC
Thanks to all for the bits of advice! Glad I joined the group, lots of good info!
> On Apr 10, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Monte,
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> We have a Cal 2-27. Magic carries two group 31 deep cycle batteries on an isolator and controlled by a 1-both-2 battery switch. It works for us, as we take Magic to the Bahamas and spend time on the hook. While we have LEDs most everywhere, we also run a Dometic CF50 CoolFreeze Portable Refrigerator / Freezer. Our diesel is easily started by either deep cycle battery.
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> If you are only day sailing, you can probably get by with just a single group 24 battery.
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> Michael
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
Harleigh Ewell2015-04-10 14:21 UTC
Wet-cell batteries are the cheapest, and unless designated maintenance free, will require regular checking and topping off with distilled water. Older battery chargers are made for wet cells. Newer “smart” chargers also have settings for the more expensive gel and AGM batteries, which do not require regular maintenance. Since I cruise and don’t want to be bothered with checking battery levels, I have 2 Group 27 AGMs.
Harleigh
Cal 31 “Kat’s Cradle”
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 9:54 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Batteries
Thanks to all for the bits of advice! Glad I joined the group, lots of good info!
On Apr 10, 2015, at 8:02 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote:
Monte,
We have a Cal 2-27. Magic carries two group 31 deep cycle batteries on an isolator and controlled by a 1-both-2 battery switch. It works for us, as we take Magic to the Bahamas and spend time on the hook. While we have LEDs most everywhere, we also run a Dometic CF50 CoolFreeze Portable Refrigerator / Freezer. Our diesel is easily started by either deep cycle battery.
If you are only day sailing, you can probably get by with just a single group 24 battery.
Michael