9 messages2015-04-17 22:13 UTCthrough 2015-04-19 02:21 UTC
Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
r_… [at] yahoo.com2015-04-17 22:13 UTC
I recently noticed that my tiller requires more effort to turn it. I'm getting conflicting feedback as to the issue. I thought I might have kelp in there, but others think the bushing is shot. Is there a bushing? Is there a bearing? Is there just a tube? I can't haul out until mid-May because the yards are so busy right now here in MDR. As you all know, it is a spade rudder, the tiller post goes from the cockpit sole, through the lazarette and out.
Thoughts?
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
grae morrison2015-04-17 22:19 UTC
I had the a similar (if not identical) issue with my '72 Cal-29 at the
end of last season, I checked everything but in the end dropped the
rudder when I got her out of the water - despite undoing everything on
the quadrant it would still not budge, in the end it took a lot of
effort to drag down but eventually came out with a small section of the
sleeve which must have broken off and dropped down - effectively
doubling the width of the sleeve.
if it it's the same then nothing to be done but drop the rudder I'm afraid.
Grae Morrison
1972 Cal-29 #437 'Destiny'
Red Bank, NJ
On 4/17/2015 18:13, r_… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
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> I recently noticed that my tiller requires more effort to turn it. I'm
> getting conflicting feedback as to the issue. I thought I might have
> kelp in there, but others think the bushing is shot. Is there a
> bushing? Is there a bearing? Is there just a tube? I can't haul out
> until mid-May because the yards are so busy right now here in MDR. As
> you all know, it is a spade rudder, the tiller post goes from the
> cockpit sole, through the lazarette and out.
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
r_… [at] yahoo.com2015-04-17 22:27 UTC
ahhhh, a sleeve, eh? There's really no way to tell without dropping the rudder. My main concern is that if I continue racing, would I risk losing the rudder? Or is it just going to be a nuisance?
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
grae morrison2015-04-17 22:37 UTC
to be honest, I don't think I, or anyone else, would be in a position to
pass judgement without actually examining it.
As far as I was concerned it wasn't working as it should and I wasn't
happy till I knew what the problem was - don't want to be a couple of
miles offshore, thinking about it,closer even may be more dangerous, and
the rudder go - for my money I'd pull the rudder and have it checked.
On 4/17/2015 18:27, r_… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
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> ahhhh, a sleeve, eh? There's really no way to tell without dropping
> the rudder. My main concern is that if I continue racing, would I risk
> losing the rudder? Or is it just going to be a nuisance?
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
david dobbs2015-04-18 00:32 UTC
I have two words, Foss Foam. The rudder is probably full of water, and when you drop it you'll find out. I had to do that with my 29, bought a new elliptical model from Foss and have much improved performance, even under power. That's Foss in Cal, not Fla. Wasn't cheap, hey, it's a boat part.David Dobbs CAL29 411
On Friday, April 17, 2015 5:37 PM, "grae morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
to be honest, I don't think I, or anyone else, would be in a position to pass judgement without actually examining it.
As far as I was concerned it wasn't working as it should and I wasn't happy till I knew what the problem was - don't want to be a couple of miles offshore, thinking about it,closer even may be more dangerous, and the rudder go - for my money I'd pull the rudder and have it checked.
On 4/17/2015 18:27, r_… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
ahhhh, a sleeve, eh? There's really no way to tell without dropping the rudder. My main concern is that if I continue racing, would I risk losing the rudder? Or is it just going to be a nuisance?
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
r_… [at] yahoo.com2015-04-18 02:09 UTC
How does the rudder fill with water? It was hauled out last month and looked to be in perfect shape.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
r_… [at] yahoo.com2015-04-18 02:15 UTC
Here it is from last month.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
grae morrison2015-04-18 02:39 UTC
Mine was wet inside, I wouldn't say it was filled but the join between
the stock and fibreglass was definitely loose so could have been that.
Another reason to dopr and completely overhaul - I drilled, drained,
dried, filled and sanded over the winter followed by three coats of
barrier coat before the antifoul - going to re-hang this weekend.
G
On 4/17/2015 22:09, r_… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
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> How does the rudder fill with water? It was hauled out last month and
> looked to be in perfect shape.
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>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-30 Rudder is stubborn
so… [at] yahoo.com2015-04-19 02:21 UTC
If you can discern increasing friction in your rudder removal would be wise to address the issue . I have only recently purchased a 34' so my Cal knowledge is limited but from experience dropping a rudder on the hard is not difficult.
Clarence Baker
1975 34'