8 messages2015-05-14 00:54 UTCthrough 2015-05-18 21:54 UTC
Raising and storing dinghy on 29
Joseph Schoepp2015-05-14 00:54 UTC
Anyone with a cal 29 care to share how they are lifting and storing their dinghy? I have a 10' inflatable with air floor and 15hp 2 stroke. I was thinking about rear davits, or maybe that dinghy sling davit. Any suggestions? Thanks
Joe - cal29
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Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29
sa… [at] mascom.com2015-05-15 12:03 UTC
I have an original Cal 30 (full keel) with a dinghy comparable to yours. My Mercury boat has an air floor and I also have a 15HP motor.
I'm currently waiting on delivery of my Garhauer davits and am excited to add these to "Amalia". Along with the need to transport the dinghy conveniently (my mast will be down from Chicago all the way to Mobile (1200 miles), I am adding a second battery bank with 140W solar panel and need a mounting surface.
Even if you deflate your dinghy and store it on the foredeck, you'll have to still rig up a hoist to get the outboard up to mount it on the stern rail. While you can get a suitable crane like the Forespar Boat Nova Lift http://www.forespar.com/products/boat-nova-lift.shtml
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or Garhauer Lifting Davit https://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=41 for $350. to $500., I think I will use one of my davit legs to lift my 80# Mercury 15.
After considering the Forespar Davits, I decided on the Garhauer Davits https://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=81 as a better overall value. In addition to the other features, they have dual 6:1 tackle that should make easy work of a 100# boat.
I'll take some pictures in the next few months.
Greg Murphy
S/V Amalia
1965 Cal 30
Muskegon, MI
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29
david dobbs2015-05-15 22:27 UTC
Greg,If you intend to unstep your mast in Chicago I would suggest you consider my club, Jackson Park Yacht Club. Our rate for non-members is $3.50 a foot. We have a gin pole that can easily handle your mast, and a club steward who is very experienced. Call to make an appointment, 773-684-5522. His days off are Monday and Tuesday, normal hours 10am to 6pm. You need to have your own deck crew, 2 for a Cal 29, that's what I have, but usually there are members around to lend a hand. We're a friendly place.David Dobbs CAL29 411
On Friday, May 15, 2015 7:03 AM, "sa… [at] mascom.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I have an original Cal 30 (full keel) with a dinghy comparable to yours. My Mercury boat has an air floor and I also have a 15HP motor.
I'm currently waiting on delivery of my Garhauer davits and am excited to add these to "Amalia". Along with the need to transport the dinghy conveniently (my mast will be down from Chicago all the way to Mobile (1200 miles), I am adding a second battery bank with 140W solar panel and need a mounting surface.
Even if you deflate your dinghy and store it on the foredeck, you'll have to still rig up a hoist to get the outboard up to mount it on the stern rail. While you can get a suitable crane like the Forespar Boat Nova Lift
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| | | | Boat Nova Lift Forespar's Nova products combine elegant styling with superb strength and function. The Patented Nova Lifts lets you keep the lifting arm centered over the l... | |
| View on www.forespar.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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or Garhauer Lifting Davit for $350. to $500., I think I will use one of my davit legs to lift my 80# Mercury 15.
After considering the Forespar Davits, I decided on the Garhauer Davits as a better overall value. In addition to the other features, they have dual 6:1 tackle that should make easy work of a 100# boat.
I'll take some pictures in the next few months.
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Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29
ha… [at] comcast.net2015-05-18 15:12 UTC
To David Dobbs:
We are considering shipping my Cal 29 "RoseMary" from Punta Gorda, FL to Grapevine Lake near DFW in Texas.
Regarding un-stepping the mast. Is this something the shipping company usually does? Do you have any diagrams on how this should be done?
It's a completely new problem for me, and I need all the information I can get.
Ray Hagen
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29
Donald C Dutton2015-05-18 18:11 UTC
We have shipped our boat 4 times now. My experience is that the shipping company expects your boat to be ready to be loaded and go when they get there. They should have told you exactly what their requirements are. It is really important that everything on the boat be secured so that vibration does not cause damage. We taped every opening door and cabinet closed, emptied all water tanks, and we pulled the mast, removed all shrouds and spreaders, and bubble wrapped and taped the entire mast. All hatches on the deck should be covered to protect them from road debris damage. We put two layers of cardboard on top of every hatch and duct taped them down. Cleaning up duct tape residue is far cheaper than replacing a hatch. Also covered our keel stepped mast’s deck entrance with two layers of cardboard and heavy plastic sheeting to prevent water entrance. We placed the boom below decks, wrapped in life jackets and lashed firmly in place to keep it from moving. The yard where your boat will be hauled should be able to help you with any of this work that you cannot do yourself, but my experience has been that it is a lot of grunt work that is not worth the price of yard labor and I performed most of the preparation myself.
When your boat arrives at your new destination — a lake I have sailed many times — take the time to work on the mast BEFORE re-stepping. I replaced the VHF antennae, spreader and steaming lights, and most of the internal wiring. Very easy and inexpensive while the mast is on sawhorses in the boatyard!
Best of luck in your move,
Don Dutton
1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution”
> On May 18, 2015, at 8:12 AM, ha… [at] comcast.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> To David Dobbs:
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> We are considering shipping my Cal 29 "RoseMary" from Punta Gorda, FL to Grapevine Lake near DFW in Texas.
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> Regarding un-stepping the mast. Is this something the shipping company usually does? Do you have any diagrams on how this should be done?
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> It's a completely new problem for me, and I need all the information I can get.
>
> Ray Hagen
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>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29
david dobbs2015-05-18 20:14 UTC
Ray,It's not a big deal, any boatyard should be able to handle it, takes less than an hour if you have it prepped. Remove the lowers, loosen the rest of the turnbuckles, remove the boom and you're ready for them to attach the crane, they take up the weight, remove the rest of the rigging, raise it up a little, disconnect the electrical and VHF, and it's ready to be lowered. I do it twice a year, up in spring, down in fall.David Dobbs CAL29 411
On Monday, May 18, 2015 1:11 PM, "Donald C Dutton dn… [at] comcast.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
We have shipped our boat 4 times now. My experience is that the shipping company expects your boat to be ready to be loaded and go when they get there. They should have told you exactly what their requirements are. It is really important that everything on the boat be secured so that vibration does not cause damage. We taped every opening door and cabinet closed, emptied all water tanks, and we pulled the mast, removed all shrouds and spreaders, and bubble wrapped and taped the entire mast. All hatches on the deck should be covered to protect them from road debris damage. We put two layers of cardboard on top of every hatch and duct taped them down. Cleaning up duct tape residue is far cheaper than replacing a hatch. Also covered our keel stepped mast’s deck entrance with two layers of cardboard and heavy plastic sheeting to prevent water entrance. We placed the boom below decks, wrapped in life jackets and lashed firmly in place to keep it from moving. The yard where your boat will be hauled should be able to help you with any of this work that you cannot do yourself, but my experience has been that it is a lot of grunt work that is not worth the price of yard labor and I performed most of the preparation myself.
When your boat arrives at your new destination — a lake I have sailed many times — take the time to work on the mast BEFORE re-stepping. I replaced the VHF antennae, spreader and steaming lights, and most of the internal wiring. Very easy and inexpensive while the mast is on sawhorses in the boatyard!
Best of luck in your move,
Don Dutton1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution”
On May 18, 2015, at 8:12 AM, ha… [at] comcast.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
To David Dobbs:
We are considering shipping my Cal 29 "RoseMary" from Punta Gorda, FL to Grapevine Lake near DFW in Texas.
Regarding un-stepping the mast. Is this something the shipping company usually does? Do you have any diagrams on how this should be done?
It's a completely new problem for me, and I need all the information I can get.
Ray Hagen
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29
Donald C Dutton2015-05-18 20:52 UTC
Prepping a boat for shipping is way different than simply taking the mast dow for winter storage. There is a lot more work involved in prepping parts of the boat against the hazards of the road!
Don Dutton
1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution”
> On May 18, 2015, at 1:14 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Ray,
> It's not a big deal, any boatyard should be able to handle it, takes less than an hour if you have it prepped. Remove the lowers, loosen the rest of the turnbuckles, remove the boom and you're ready for them to attach the crane, they take up the weight, remove the rest of the rigging, raise it up a little, disconnect the electrical and VHF, and it's ready to be lowered. I do it twice a year, up in spring, down in fall.
> David Dobbs CAL29 411
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> On Monday, May 18, 2015 1:11 PM, "Donald C Dutton dn… [at] comcast.net <mailto:dn… [at] comcast.net> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>
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> We have shipped our boat 4 times now. My experience is that the shipping company expects your boat to be ready to be loaded and go when they get there. They should have told you exactly what their requirements are. It is really important that everything on the boat be secured so that vibration does not cause damage. We taped every opening door and cabinet closed, emptied all water tanks, and we pulled the mast, removed all shrouds and spreaders, and bubble wrapped and taped the entire mast. All hatches on the deck should be covered to protect them from road debris damage. We put two layers of cardboard on top of every hatch and duct taped them down. Cleaning up duct tape residue is far cheaper than replacing a hatch. Also covered our keel stepped mast’s deck entrance with two layers of cardboard and heavy plastic sheeting to prevent water entrance. We placed the boom below decks, wrapped in life jackets and lashed firmly in place to keep it from moving. The yard where your boat will be hauled should be able to help you with any of this work that you cannot do yourself, but my experience has been that it is a lot of grunt work that is not worth the price of yard labor and I performed most of the preparation myself.
>
> When your boat arrives at your new destination — a lake I have sailed many times — take the time to work on the mast BEFORE re-stepping. I replaced the VHF antennae, spreader and steaming lights, and most of the internal wiring. Very easy and inexpensive while the mast is on sawhorses in the boatyard!
>
> Best of luck in your move,
>
> Don Dutton
> 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution”
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>> On May 18, 2015, at 8:12 AM, ha… [at] comcast.net <mailto:ha… [at] comcast.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> To David Dobbs:
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>> We are considering shipping my Cal 29 "RoseMary" from Punta Gorda, FL to Grapevine Lake near DFW in Texas.
>>
>> Regarding un-stepping the mast. Is this something the shipping company usually does? Do you have any diagrams on how this should be done?
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>> It's a completely new problem for me, and I need all the information I can get.
>>
>> Ray Hagen
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Raising and storing dinghy on 29 now actually: Boat Transporting
Larry Knowles2015-05-18 21:54 UTC
I'd contact this company.
His ad is found in Good Old Boat magazine.
http://sailorsmovingsailors.com/
Larry Knowles
1970 CalCruising 36