Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill

Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill

2 messages2015-06-15 04:35 UTCthrough 2015-06-16 05:39 UTC

Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill

rj… [at] juno.com2015-06-15 04:35 UTC
Jerry, a small amount of oil will spread out pretty thin and cover a HUGE area, just depends on the viscosity of the oil and the temperature, I suspect wave action may affect this as well. I suspect calmer waters spread the oil out thinner? Crude oil though, in my recollection would be very thick and "gooey", so would spread out less.......... but I'm not a chemical engineer or expert on how oil spills behave (or is that, Misbehave?). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 Was: co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 04:11:11 +0000 (UTC) "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Pardon the size of my font but my computer is all %$# by the NSA. Gee, but that seems like an awful lot of damage from just 20,000 gallons of crude oil! I mean, how can you foul 100 miles of coastline, and over a period of a month or more, from the equivalent volume of a small backyard swim pool? That is, unless there's a major cover-up. Jerry of Shpritz. On Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:48 PM, "saylorran sa… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Been a busy race schedule already. Yes, boats in our had a cruise to Santa Cruz island that weekend. The couple of boats at my dock came back with large tar balls and gray/green scum attached to the waterline. Yesterday we did a offshore race in light air. We were sailing thru flat spots thinking we would start to loose speed or it would be a wind shift. I looked down and it was an oil slick keeping the waves down and full with tar balls. The slick is still around. Randy CAL 2 29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note� 3 From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: 06/04/2015 7:26 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill Hi, All. Was anyone in our West Coast contingent affected by the Santa Barbara oil spill? Take Care Charlie CAL 25 and CAL 40 Annapolis NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1

Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill

Kris Jensen2015-06-16 05:39 UTC
Most people that aren't from the SB area also don't realize that there is an oil spill everyday, all day, all night and always has been since way before humans ever showed up in Santa Barbara. The oil aquifer (oilifer?) is exposed where the continental shelf drops off steeply and has seeped for centuries. The locals used to stalk the beaches for tarballs and burn them for heat and light back when they were just getting used to that walking upright thing and wearing skins. Scientific studies I've seen say approximately 10000 gallons a day. Likely the largest natural seeps in the Western hemisphere, second largest in the world and account for 98% of oil (from all sources) that goes into the Pacific from Southern California and nearly 2/3rds of all the oil that ends up in the Pacific from the entire Pacific Seaboard including Hawaii. This is why they have to check an oil spill's "DNA" to see if it came from a refined or natural source. There are occasional "burps" where large quantities are released that are reported as "spills" but then didn't come from man-made sources. This is why as laymen you can never look at oil and place blame on anyone unless you see it going into the water. You just don't have the scientific means to identify the source of the oil. It's also why the average Santa Barbara sailor doesn't get all excited about oil spills unless they start stringing boom across the harbor entrances. There is always oil going into the water, and most of it from natural sources. And the environment can deal with it. We just have to pay attention to not dumping giant quantities in all at once that Mother Nature doesn't have the resources to deal with in a timely manner. But I'll paraphrase a real smart feller who said once: "The Planet has nothing but time, it's humans that are running out of that precious commodity." From: "rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 9:35 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill Jerry, a small amount of oil will spread out pretty thin and cover a HUGE area, just depends on the viscosity of the oil and the temperature, I suspect wave action may affect this as well. I suspect calmer waters spread the oil out thinner? Crude oil though, in my recollection would be very thick and "gooey", so would spread out less.......... but I'm not a chemical engineer or expert on how oil spills behave (or is that, Misbehave?). Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD"1979 O'DAY DS II #10201Was: co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 04:11:11 +0000 (UTC) "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Pardon the size of my font but my computer is all %$# by the NSA. Gee, but that seems like an awful lot of damage from just 20,000 gallons of crude oil! I mean, how can you foul 100 miles of coastline, and over a period of a month or more, from the equivalent volume of a small backyard swim pool? That is, unless there's a major cover-up. Jerry of Shpritz. On Sunday, June 14, 2015 8:48 PM, "saylorran sa… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Been a busy race schedule already. Yes, boats in our had a cruise to Santa Cruz island that weekend. The couple of boats at my dock came back with large tar balls and gray/green scum attached to the waterline. Yesterday we did a offshore race in light air. We were sailing thru flat spots thinking we would start to loose speed or it would be a wind shift. I looked down and it was an oil slick keeping the waves down and full with tar balls. The slick is still around. Randy CAL 2 29 Out Patient Channel Islands Ca Sent on a Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note® 3 From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: 06/04/2015 7:26 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] West Coast Oil Spill Hi, All. Was anyone in our West Coast contingent affected by the Santa Barbara oil spill? Take Care Charlie CAL 25 and CAL 40 Annapolis NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. 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