Brummel hooks?

Listmates: My Cal 20 had her first sail under partial rig last week. Last night I rowed out and replaced the turnbuckle that had jumped ship and the lower terminal of another that had been bent. The parts had arrived in the day's mail. I also moved the new spinnaker halyard so it didn't foul the jib halyard as it did last week. Why is it that we never discover such things until we are under sail? And that reminded me that the old halyard terminated in a small aluminum Brummel hook. Problem is, I don't have the original spinnaker with the other half of the Brummel hook on it. The catalogs don't exactly feature a wide range of Brummel hooks these days. Does anybody have a small one in the hardware stash that you'd be willing to part with? And if not, what's the best recommendation for a small connecting device suitable for a small spinnaker on the Cal 20? Chris Campbell

Hi Chris , I have a pair for spinnaker left over from my days sailing Fireballs. They are probably about 3/8 in wide so should fit in a standard envelope. If I drop them in the mail tomorrow you might have them for the weekend. Drew Ratchelous New Haven ct To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:48:55 -0400 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Listmates: My Cal 20 had her first sail under partial rig last week. Last night I rowed out and replaced the turnbuckle that had jumped ship and the lower terminal of another that had been bent. The parts had arrived in the day's mail. I also moved the new spinnaker halyard so it didn't foul the jib halyard as it did last week. Why is it that we never discover such things until we are under sail? And that reminded me that the old halyard terminated in a small aluminum Brummel hook. Problem is, I don't have the original spinnaker with the other half of the Brummel hook on it. The catalogs don't exactly feature a wide range of Brummel hooks these days. Does anybody have a small one in the hardware stash that you'd be willing to part with? And if not, what's the best recommendation for a small connecting device suitable for a small spinnaker on the Cal 20? Chris Campbell

Hello Chris, When I first read "brummel hook", I thought you were making a joke; something like a canooter valve, muffler bearing, blinker fluid, etc.... Anyway, I googled it up. Lo and behold, they exist. I have never used one, but I can see where it could be used. Since there is no positive locking mechanism, I would shy away myself. While they are expensive, we went for Tylaska shackles for our spinnaker sheets and halyards. You will appreciate the design and reliability of a Tylaska. Losing your spinnaker when the shackle self-opens really stinks. And, as you said, you only discover this when you are under sail. Michael From: "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:48 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Listmates: My Cal 20 had her first sail under partial rig last week. Last night I rowed out and replaced the turnbuckle that had jumped ship and the lower terminal of another that had been bent. The parts had arrived in the day's mail. I also moved the new spinnaker halyard so it didn't foul the jib halyard as it did last week. Why is it that we never discover such things until we are under sail? And that reminded me that the old halyard terminated in a small aluminum Brummel hook. Problem is, I don't have the original spinnaker with the other half of the Brummel hook on it. The catalogs don't exactly feature a wide range of Brummel hooks these days. Does anybody have a small one in the hardware stash that you'd be willing to part with? And if not, what's the best recommendation for a small connecting device suitable for a small spinnaker on the Cal 20? Chris Campbell

On 6/24/2015 10:07 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Hi Chris , I have a pair for spinnaker left over from my days sailing > Fireballs. > They are probably about 3/8 in wide so should fit in a standard > envelope. If I drop them in the mail tomorrow you might have them for > the weekend. > Drew Ratchelous Wow! I'm at 116 Monroe St., Traverse City, MI 49684. For my first few outings under the "new" used spinnaker I tied it on--not the best practice. Chris Campbell

On 6/24/2015 10:15 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Hello Chris, > > When I first read "brummel hook", I thought you were making a joke; > something like a canooter valve, muffler bearing, blinker fluid, etc.... > > Anyway, I googled it up. Lo and behold, they exist. I have never > used one, but I can see where it could be used. Since there is no > positive locking mechanism, I would shy away myself. They're positive enough for most purposes, since you have to line up the openings just right to take them apart. You could probably train a chimpanzee or parrot to do it, but it won't happen often by chance. > While they are expensive, we went for Tylaska shackles for our > spinnaker sheets and halyards. You will appreciate the design and > reliability of a Tylaska. It's probably overkill on a Cal 20! Chris Campbell

Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew PS. I have several chestnut trees but crop not ready until september ha/ha To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:16:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/24/2015 10:07 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris , I have a pair for spinnaker left over from my days sailing Fireballs. They are probably about 3/8 in wide so should fit in a standard envelope. If I drop them in the mail tomorrow you might have them for the weekend. Drew Ratchelous Wow! I'm at 116 Monroe St., Traverse City, MI 49684. For my first few outings under the "new" used spinnaker I tied it on--not the best practice. Chris Campbell

On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from > sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware > box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. > drew > PS. I have several chestnut trees but crop not ready until september > ha/ha > I've got 1/2 of a Brummel hook already and if the dimensions agree, the second half will put me in business. The big question in my mind was "when do we see horsechestnut nuts?" I could not remember if it was spring or fall. Maybe I need to find a source in the southern hemisphere so they are available right now, when the spiders are annoying me. Chris Campbell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >

On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Hi Chris, > I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from > sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware > box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. > drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Chris, Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. Michael From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. CheersCharlieAnnapolisCAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

On 7/1/2015 3:59 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on > my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. > Looks good. I can't even remember what I've got on my sheets--maybe knots. Will have to look tonight if it's warm enough for sailing. On those, it looks like you use a stopper knot to secure them? Chris > >

I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. Allen On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Chris, > > Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light > air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race > and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. > > Michael > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my > light air CAL 25 spin sheets. > > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > CAL 25 and CAL 40 > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > > > Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used > . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and > placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking > for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the > heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. > I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. > good luck , > drew > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > > On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] > wrote: > > Hi Chris, > I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from > sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I > will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. > drew > > > Drew: > > Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect > that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the > envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about > having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered > why it was so light and flat. > > So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or > I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 > Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > >

Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. Allen On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Chris, Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. Michael _____ From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Thanks. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is > just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the > large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. > From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) > > > > > > > I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and > some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? > > > > Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. > > > > Allen > > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Chris, > > > > Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light > air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race > and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. > > > > Michael > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > > > > Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my > light air CAL 25 spin sheets. > > > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > CAL 25 and CAL 40 > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > > > > Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used > . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and > placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking > for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the > heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. > I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. > good luck , > drew > > ------------------------------ > > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > > > > On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] > wrote: > > Hi Chris, > I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from > sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I > will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. > drew > > > Drew: > > Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect > that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the > envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about > having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered > why it was so light and flat. > > So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or > I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 > Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi, All. Again, for search purposes, these parts are apparently called “nab shackles”. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:48 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) Thanks. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. Allen On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Chris, Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. Michael _____ From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Speaking of shackles, does anyone besides me use Dyneema loop and knot shackles? I've been using one of them for foresail sheets with 1000% success for the last three years and would never dream of going back to any other sort of jib sheet attachment, since they are lighter than the sheet itself and hook up quickly, and never snag on shrouds.Jerry of Shpritz, the venerable Cal 24 Mk-1, maximum fun Cal.PS, I also use Dyneema-Amsteel in place of steel cable on my halyards. No more meat-hooks, and minimum windage. On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:53 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, All. Again, for search purposes, these parts are apparently called “nab shackles”. CheersCharlieAnnapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:48 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) Thanks. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. CheersCharlieAnnapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. Allen On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Chris, Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. Michael From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. CheersCharlieAnnapolisCAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Jerry, when you started using Dyneema-Amsteel stuff on your classic boat, did she have an allergic reaction and break out in hives? Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 5:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) Speaking of shackles, does anyone besides me use Dyneema loop and knot shackles? I've been using one of them for foresail sheets with 1000% success for the last three years and would never dream of going back to any other sort of jib sheet attachment, since they are lighter than the sheet itself and hook up quickly, and never snag on shrouds. Jerry of Shpritz, the venerable Cal 24 Mk-1, maximum fun Cal. PS, I also use Dyneema-Amsteel in place of steel cable on my halyards. No more meat-hooks, and minimum windage. On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:53 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, All. Again, for search purposes, these parts are apparently called “nab shackles”. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:48 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) Thanks. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. Allen On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Chris, Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. Michael _____ From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew _____ To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:cr… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Charlie,I'm glad you asked. Getting dirty looks from the roving riggers at the yacht clubs forewarned me. Then there was the rumor of "creep" I kept hearing. So rest assured, I took the precaution of dipping all my hi-tech rigging in a vat of boiling 100% natural, organic certified La Brea Tar and Linseed Oil, then letting it dry out in the cool shade of a North Coast old growth Redwood forest for two whole months before I added it to my existing inventory of traditional Poly Esters, Stainless Cables, and pre-flowered hemp rigging.Cheerz!Jerry On Friday, July 3, 2015 6:12 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Jerry, when you started using Dyneema-Amsteel stuff on your classic boat, did she have an allergic reaction and break out in hives? CheersCharlieAnnapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 5:44 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) Speaking of shackles, does anyone besides me use Dyneema loop and knot shackles? I've been using one of them for foresail sheets with 1000% success for the last three years and would never dream of going back to any other sort of jib sheet attachment, since they are lighter than the sheet itself and hook up quickly, and never snag on shrouds.Jerry of Shpritz, the venerable Cal 24 Mk-1, maximum fun Cal.PS, I also use Dyneema-Amsteel in place of steel cable on my halyards. No more meat-hooks, and minimum windage. On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:53 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, All. Again, for search purposes, these parts are apparently called “nab shackles”. CheersCharlieAnnapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2015 9:48 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) Thanks. On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. CheersCharlieAnnapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. Allen On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Chris, Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. Michael From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my light air CAL 25 spin sheets. CheersCharlieAnnapolisCAL 25 and CAL 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. good luck , drew To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi Chris, I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. drew Drew: Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered why it was so light and flat. So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. Chris Campbell

Ah, I do :-) Check out my web site tab on the subject. http://L-36.com/soft_shackles.php?menu=4 <http://l-36.com/soft_shackles.php?menu=4> My boat is relatively classic by some standards being an L-36 and there is Dyneema all over it. The stuff is great. Just don't put it around a winch or cleat. Allen On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Speaking of shackles, does anyone besides me use Dyneema loop and knot > shackles? I've been using one of them for foresail sheets with 1000% > success for the last three years and would never dream of going back to any > other sort of jib sheet attachment, since they are lighter than the sheet > itself and hook up quickly, and never snag on shrouds. > Jerry of Shpritz, the venerable Cal 24 Mk-1, maximum fun Cal. > PS, I also use Dyneema-Amsteel in place of steel cable on my halyards. No > more meat-hooks, and minimum windage. > > > > On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:53 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > Hi, All. Again, for search purposes, these parts are apparently called > “nab shackles”. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Friday, July 03, 2015 9:48 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) > > Thanks. > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is > just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the > large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. > From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) > > > > I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and > some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? > > Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. > > Allen > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Chris, > > Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as light > air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a race > and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. > > Michael > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my > light air CAL 25 spin sheets. > > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > CAL 25 and CAL 40 > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be used > . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter and > placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep looking > for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse the > heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. > I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. > good luck , > drew > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? > > > > On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] > wrote: > > Hi Chris, > I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from > sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I > will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. > drew > > > Drew: > > Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect > that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the > envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about > having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered > why it was so light and flat. > > So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or > I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 > Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I might add a note on Soft Shackles. My favorite is one I developed and call a better soft shackle. I highly recommend it. Much easier to use than the ones you usually see. http://L-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php <http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_9.php> Allen On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > Ah, I do :-) > > Check out my web site tab on the subject. > http://L-36.com/soft_shackles.php?menu=4 > <http://l-36.com/soft_shackles.php?menu=4> > > > > My boat is relatively classic by some standards being an L-36 and there is > Dyneema all over it. The stuff is great. Just don't put it around a winch > or cleat. > > Allen > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Speaking of shackles, does anyone besides me use Dyneema loop and knot >> shackles? I've been using one of them for foresail sheets with 1000% >> success for the last three years and would never dream of going back to any >> other sort of jib sheet attachment, since they are lighter than the sheet >> itself and hook up quickly, and never snag on shrouds. >> Jerry of Shpritz, the venerable Cal 24 Mk-1, maximum fun Cal. >> PS, I also use Dyneema-Amsteel in place of steel cable on my halyards. No >> more meat-hooks, and minimum windage. >> >> >> >> On Friday, July 3, 2015 7:53 AM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Hi, All. Again, for search purposes, these parts are apparently >> called “nab shackles”. >> >> Cheers >> Charlie >> Annapolis >> >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, July 03, 2015 9:48 AM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) >> >> Thanks. >> >> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 4:03 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hi, Allen. This undersize photo shows the intended attachment. It is >> just a built-up knot. For the skinny line, I use a bowline around the >> large hole where the knot is in the photo. Works fine for my purposes. >> From searches, this looks like a UK innovation. >> >> Cheers >> Charlie >> Annapolis >> >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:37 PM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? (Chris) >> >> >> >> I notice the attachment looks a bit odd with the hole in the bottom and >> some detail in the opening. How do you attach to these things? >> >> Are they still made? I didn't see anything on the Lewmar web site. >> >> Allen >> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Chris, >> >> Yes!!! Those shackles rock. We use them on Magic with 1/4" line as >> light air spinnaker shackles. We got caught with some heavier air during a >> race and they held fast. I think they are rated for ~700 lbs. >> >> Michael >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 3:59 PM >> *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? >> >> >> Chris, have you ever tried these? Light and reliable. I use them on my >> light air CAL 25 spin sheets. >> >> >> Cheers >> Charlie >> Annapolis >> CAL 25 and CAL 40 >> >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:56 AM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? >> >> >> Hi Chris, sorry to hear the hook was lost , I was hoping it could be >> used . I had placed it between 2 index cards stapled around the perimeter >> and placed in envelope. I should have used a padded mailer. I will keep >> looking for its twin. Someone will find it on the floor and it will confuse >> the heck out of them wondering what it is and what machine it fell out of. >> I will try to find more brummel hooks from some of my friends. >> good luck , >> drew >> >> ------------------------------ >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 16:35:26 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Brummel hooks? >> >> >> >> On 6/25/2015 9:52 AM, Drew Ratchelous cr… [at] hotmail.com >> [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> I mailed you the one brummel hook I could find when I got back from >> sailing last night. Sorry I could only find one in my spare hardware box. I >> will try to look on my old spinnakers in the attic for more. >> drew >> >> >> Drew: >> >> Your envelope arrived--but the Brummel hook had jumped ship. I suspect >> that the post office's sorting machines had squeezed it out of the >> envelope. There was a small tear along one edge. I was all excited about >> having a proper spinnaker halyard but then I felt the envelope and wondered >> why it was so light and flat. >> >> So thank you for making the effort, and keep looking for another one! Or >> I could just buy another form of shackle, and then I'll have an extra 1/2 >> Brummel hook to contribute to somebody else. >> >> Chris Campbell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >