6 messages2015-07-08 22:56 UTCthrough 2015-07-10 13:24 UTC
cal 25 rudder
to… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-08 22:56 UTC
How much slop is in the rudder shaft back and forth movement?
Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 25 rudder
Joe DeMers2015-07-08 23:30 UTC
If you are inquiring about my Cal 25 rudder, it was rebuilt by me using
only the best materials. There is zero slop. Joe DeMers
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Re: cal 25 rudder
to… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-09 22:14 UTC
not your rudder just a question about mine
Re: cal 25 rudder
to… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-09 22:32 UTC
About 1/8 inch of slop
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 25 rudder
Gerald Sobel2015-07-10 06:18 UTC
I have some slop in my tiller to rudder, but it's caused by looseness in the bolts connecting the wooden tiller to the mast head. If they're tightened up there probably wouldn't be any, but on the Cal 24 the rudder hinges off the end of the keel.Jerry of Shpritz.
On Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:32 PM, "to… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
About 1/8 inch of slop
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 25 rudder
Charlie Husar2015-07-10 13:24 UTC
Hi, Tom. The slop most likely comes from wear in the rudder post tube. Two things that can be done, but I only recommend one.
I’ve seen people drill some holes in the sides of the fibrglas rudder tube, put a greased rudder in, and inject epoxy into the tube. This would fill the slop space. However, a friend did this to his 25, and he did not notice that he had an ever so slight bend in the rudder post. The rudder was frozen in the newly epoxied tube . Took us a day to get it out. Not recommended.
Here is what I recommend. Being cheap, I do the soda bottle thing. Get some one or two liter soda bottles with smooth sides – name brands tend to have thicker plastic. Cut some 6”x6” squares from the sides of the bottle(s). These will be used as tube shims. Assuming boat is ashore, lower the rudder onto some wood blocks so it is still in the tube by a couple inches. Clean the post. Put some grease on the post and a little on the outside of the shims. Wrap a shim around the post, and feed it up in the tube, adding wood pieces under the rudder to hold in higher positions (a helper is handy, but solo is possible – things can get greasy). Probably need to nudge the shim along, and move the rudder around some to make the feed work. A second shim can go in beneath the first. If a lot of slop, two shims can be overlaid and fed upward. (Rudder is 2” diameter so a 6 inch plastic piece does not quite overlap when wrapped around the post.) Sorry, I don’t have any pictures of the process. Photos take a third person.
By the way, the best stuff I have found to clean old grease off the rudder post (and to clean old lubricant and crap out of winches) is WD-40. Melts that grease away beautifully.
Do you have a phenolic or plastic donut on the rudder post just above the rudder itself? These help prevent abrasion between rudder and hull.
Any of this make any sense?
Take Care
Charlie
CAL 25 – Chicken Little
Annapolis
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: cal 25 rudder
I have some slop in my tiller to rudder, but it's caused by looseness in the bolts connecting the wooden tiller to the mast head. If they're tightened up there probably wouldn't be any, but on the Cal 24 the rudder hinges off the end of the keel.
Jerry of Shpritz.
On Thursday, July 9, 2015 3:32 PM, "to… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
About 1/8 inch of slop