Real Sailboat

I have a real sailboat again, stepped the mast this afternoon, attached the boom also. Our steward was working on his sixth boat of the day when I left, he'll probably do a few more after that. He's off at 6 but has been known to work late if he likes you. I always tip well, he deserves it.David Dobbs CAL29 411

David, you remind me of a very small yard in Annapolis (Muller Marine) that does good things without a lot of fandango. They have strange old machine that can only pull boats up a certain size (J/35 is as big as they get). The yard will do anything for you. When I pull my boat (or another CAL 25), I always make sure to bring a 30 pack of Busch beer, and wave it around in front of the staff before I put in in their fridge. I’ve never had my tires stolen there. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 6:21 PM To: CalList Subject: [Cal_Boats] Real Sailboat I have a real sailboat again, stepped the mast this afternoon, attached the boom also. Our steward was working on his sixth boat of the day when I left, he'll probably do a few more after that. He's off at 6 but has been known to work late if he likes you. I always tip well, he deserves it. David Dobbs CAL29 411

On 6/20/2015 6:21 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > I have a real sailboat again, stepped the mast this afternoon, > attached the boom also. Our steward was working on his sixth boat of > the day when I left, he'll probably do a few more after that. He's off > at 6 but has been known to work late if he likes you. I always tip > well, he deserves it. > David Dobbs CAL29 411 I'm sailing too. Cal 20 #1220, the redoutable /Martha C/, laid on her mooring for two weeks with a horizontal mast. I finally got desperate and called the guy who never says "no" and we had the mast up in a couple minutes last Wednesday. But oops, one turnbuckle had unscrewed itself and jumped overboard, and another had a bent lower terminal. The good news is that this is a Cal 20 which has redundant rigging, so I just removed the turnbuckle body and lower terminal from one of the forward lower shrouds and replaced the missing aft lower, and found a lower terminal in my stash of used ones to replace the bent one. Thursday I went out to complete the rigging and then had a choice between going to the neighborhood meeting, or going sailing. Guess which won. It was a good night with a perfect breeze and the boat slid along on a beam reach faster than ever before. Or so it seemed. We were screaming, at least in Cal 20 terms. My usual preference is for gentle breezes for the first sail of the season but I was not complaining. Then I went home and ordered a new turnbuckle and a new lower terminal from Defender. They should arrive today. Chris Campbell

All, Magic was hauled yesterday. She needs a new bottom and rudder work. There are a few other things getting repaired along the way. We had hoped to spruce her up some while she is in the yard, but the price of painting Magic's topside and redoing the non-skid was way beyond our sailing budget. As for the rudder, some of you may remember that Magic's rudder broke off a few years ago during a buoy race. It floated and was recovered. A friend of mine and I did some fiberglass surgery and refitted it with new SS stock. It was not a pretty job, but it worked. Now Magic is getting a new rudder. I phoned the Foss Foam people in Florida, but they said the had no mold for a Cal 2-27. Foss in California told me that they have an elliptical model for the 2-27. Along with the rudder replacement, Magic's rudder tube is well worn. The plan is to replace it with a new one. I will take lots of photos over the next couple of weeks. Suggestions and questions are welcomed. Michaels/v Magic, 1979 Cal 2-27, #627Pompano Beach, FL

Chris Don’t know if you were ware, but Tacoma Yacht Club and Fleet 8 are hosting Cal 20 Class Championships in mid- August. Wish you were here Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Jun 23, 2015, at 7:30 AM, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > On 6/20/2015 6:21 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> I have a real sailboat again, stepped the mast this afternoon, attached the boom also. Our steward was working on his sixth boat of the day when I left, he'll probably do a few more after that. He's off at 6 but has been known to work late if he likes you. I always tip well, he deserves it. >> David Dobbs CAL29 411 > > I'm sailing too. Cal 20 #1220, the redoutable Martha C, laid on her mooring for two weeks with a horizontal mast. I finally got desperate and called the guy who never says "no" and we had the mast up in a couple minutes last Wednesday. But oops, one turnbuckle had unscrewed itself and jumped overboard, and another had a bent lower terminal. > > The good news is that this is a Cal 20 which has redundant rigging, so I just removed the turnbuckle body and lower terminal from one of the forward lower shrouds and replaced the missing aft lower, and found a lower terminal in my stash of used ones to replace the bent one. Thursday I went out to complete the rigging and then had a choice between going to the neighborhood meeting, or going sailing. Guess which won. It was a good night with a perfect breeze and the boat slid along on a beam reach faster than ever before. Or so it seemed. We were screaming, at least in Cal 20 terms. My usual preference is for gentle breezes for the first sail of the season but I was not complaining. > > Then I went home and ordered a new turnbuckle and a new lower terminal from Defender. They should arrive today. > > Chris Campbell > > >

Yes, please post photos! I have a feeling I'll be replacing #93's rudder before long. I did the rudder tube hack that I read about in one of the old 2-27 newsletters which helped handling a bit (tapped a couple nylon bolts into the tube to apply some pressure on the post, removing some of the slop). But I had a rudder post failure on another boat (Tartan 27) and am hesitant to take #93 out of the Gate (SF Bay) without a replacement or good emergency rudder setup.I also have a lot of play at the rudder head which requires tightening the bolt after every couple hours' sailing. I wonder if there's a stock replacement?-Adam From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:03 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Rudder All, Magic was hauled yesterday. She needs a new bottom and rudder work. There are a few other things getting repaired along the way. We had hoped to spruce her up some while she is in the yard, but the price of painting Magic's topside and redoing the non-skid was way beyond our sailing budget. As for the rudder, some of you may remember that Magic's rudder broke off a few years ago during a buoy race. It floated and was recovered. A friend of mine and I did some fiberglass surgery and refitted it with new SS stock. It was not a pretty job, but it worked. Now Magic is getting a new rudder. I phoned the Foss Foam people in Florida, but they said the had no mold for a Cal 2-27. Foss in California told me that they have an elliptical model for the 2-27. Along with the rudder replacement, Magic's rudder tube is well worn. The plan is to replace it with a new one. I will take lots of photos over the next couple of weeks. Suggestions and questions are welcomed. Michaels/v Magic, 1979 Cal 2-27, #627Pompano Beach, FL

On 6/23/2015 11:29 AM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Chris > Don’t know if you were ware, but Tacoma Yacht Club and Fleet 8 are > hosting Cal 20 Class Championships in mid- August. Wish you were here Sounds like a good time but it would be a very long trip with my very local trailer! I just read /Black Feathers/, the account of Cal 20 #17's participation in the 2008 Trans-Pac single handed race. The little boats are probably more competent than their skippers, at least in my case. It's always fun to imagine on an afternoon sail that I could keep going--through the Straits of Mackinaw, down Lake Huron, Lake Erie, the Welland Canal, Lake Ontario, and the St. Lawrence and then anywhere in the world with a sea port. It would be a long haul to Tacoma by water. But that would leave nobody to work for my paycheck or water the plants, so I turn around. I do have a powerboat named for that place--a 16' 1962 Glasspar "Tacoma" model with a very early Volvo-Penta 4 cyl. I/O. Galsspar seems to have been primarily a left-coast operation so she's related to my Cal 20. Chris Campbell > >

I have a 2-27 rudder, if you need one. Joe DeMers On 6/23/2015 11:03 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > All, > > Magic was hauled yesterday. She needs a new bottom and rudder work. > There are a few other things getting repaired along the way. We had > hoped to spruce her up some while she is in the yard, but the price of > painting Magic's topside and redoing the non-skid was way beyond our > sailing budget. > > As for the rudder, some of you may remember that Magic's rudder broke > off a few years ago during a buoy race. It floated and was > recovered. A friend of mine and I did some fiberglass surgery and > refitted it with new SS stock. It was not a pretty job, but it > worked. Now Magic is getting a new rudder. I phoned the Foss Foam > people in Florida, but they said the had no mold for a Cal 2-27. Foss > in California told me that they have an elliptical model for the 2-27. > > Along with the rudder replacement, Magic's rudder tube is well worn. > The plan is to replace it with a new one. I will take lots of photos > over the next couple of weeks. > > Suggestions and questions are welcomed. > > Michael > s/v Magic, 1979 Cal 2-27, #627 > Pompano Beach, FL > > > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/>*phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

Joe, Thanks for the reply, but I have already ordered a new one. As you probably know, the factory rudder uses a SS stock, but the internal metal is mild steel. That's where mine snapped off, right at the weld. I'll be selling my old rudder. It's all SS (stock and spokes), but it is the original shape and needs someone to fair it. Michael Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Joe DeMers je… [at] mindspring.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:23 PM Subject:Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder I have a 2-27 rudder, if you need one. Joe DeMers On 6/23/2015 11:03 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: All, Magic was hauled yesterday. She needs a new bottom and rudder work. There are a few other things getting repaired along the way. We had hoped to spruce her up some while she is in the yard, but the price of painting Magic's topside and redoing the non-skid was way beyond our sailing budget. As for the rudder, some of you may remember that Magic's rudder broke off a few years ago during a buoy race. It floated and was recovered. A friend of mine and I did some fiberglass surgery and refitted it with new SS stock. It was not a pretty job, but it worked. Now Magic is getting a new rudder. I phoned the Foss Foam people in Florida, but they said the had no mold for a Cal 2-27. Foss in California told me that they have an elliptical model for the 2-27. Along with the rudder replacement, Magic's rudder tube is well worn. The plan is to replace it with a new one. I will take lots of photos over the next couple of weeks. Suggestions and questions are welcomed. Michael s/v Magic, 1979 Cal 2-27, #627 Pompano Beach, FL -- Joe DeMers - owner Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.comphone & fax (860) 666-2184

All, I stopped by the yard this afternoon to see how things are coming along. Primer is on. Some FRP repairs are underway on the toe rail. Attached are a few photos. Note the photo up the rudder tube. Michael

Michael. I'm following your footsteps with the rudder replacement and tube upgrade. Thanks for the photos. I was out in some pretty big weather this past week on a week long race. following quarter seas....all I could do was think about the components that mattered, (rudder and it's components, standing rigging, chainplates , etc.). I have the same view up the tube where I would love a more finished result. please forward photos of how the rudder goes back together with the new tube. James SV Thalia, Juneau AK.

All, Not much to report except that the rudder is shipping from Newport Beach today. I expect it to arrive on Monday. FYI, my price including delivery was $1,212,12, Don Proul, from The Foss Company, has been a pleasure to work with. I trust that the rudder will be everything I hoped for. Anyone here looking for a well used Cal 2-27 rudder? Michael

Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

James, My contractor at the boat yard, also a good sailing friend, said that he will likely fabricate a new rudder tube on the rudder post when it arrives. He did say that the rudder with tube needs to be installed as one unit, so that the rudder will be properly aligned to the hull & keel. I'm not sure about bearings/bushings. Considering existing tube has lasted 35 years, I'm not really concerned if bushings are used this time. Michael From: "ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv4718163188ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv4718163188ad p {margin:0;} .yiv4718163188ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv4718163188ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv4718163188underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv4718163188attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv4718163188attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv4718163188attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv4718163188attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv4718163188attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv4718163188bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv4718163188bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv4718163188last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv4718163188last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv4718163188last p span.yiv4718163188yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv4718163188attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv4718163188attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv4718163188file-title a, div.yiv4718163188file-title a:active, div.yiv4718163188file-title a:hover, div.yiv4718163188file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv4718163188photo-title a, div.yiv4718163188photo-title a:active, div.yiv4718163188photo-title a:hover, div.yiv4718163188photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv4718163188yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv4718163188green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv4718163188MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv4718163188replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}

I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul WestAdventure KwestCal 39 From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv1133954810ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv1133954810ad p {margin:0;} .yiv1133954810ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv1133954810ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv1133954810underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv1133954810attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv1133954810attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv1133954810attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv1133954810attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv1133954810attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv1133954810bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv1133954810bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv1133954810last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv1133954810last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv1133954810last p span.yiv1133954810yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv1133954810attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv1133954810attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv1133954810file-title a, div.yiv1133954810file-title a:active, div.yiv1133954810file-title a:hover, div.yiv1133954810file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv1133954810photo-title a, div.yiv1133954810photo-title a:active, div.yiv1133954810photo-title a:hover, div.yiv1133954810photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv1133954810yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv1133954810green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv1133954810MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv1133954810replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}

Yes....if you could. Scenario for me is to learn about what steps will be required as the local boat-yard does not have any experience to re-build a sailboat rudder tube with bearing so this would be something I'd try to take on personally or try to recruit somebody with knowledge to advise. My cal doesn't have a bearing...just the tube. If a bearing is a more modern upgrade, then I'd like to try and coordinate it into the existing tube construction. I've tried a engine honing tool...end of a drill to try and smooth the existing shaft last year after I dropped the rudder. It's tight and I feel that the deck sleeve has swollen over the past 40 years. With the deck plate not sealing....water and grit gets into the top of the the tube and I assume is the reason there is a lot of friction. It takes some effort to move the wheel...not a lot but certainly not like other boats where their pinkie can rotate the wheel.

Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael | | | | | | | | | | | Rudder | Two At SeaMay, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand | | | | View on www.twoatsea.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul WestAdventure KwestCal 39 From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

Thanks...following your conversation with Greg regarding boring out top and bottom...that makes sense, doesn't seem too difficult to do. I need to get a bead on the bearings and how they are fixed into the bored out sections...epoxy and/or fasteners. Also, what deck plates are available.

Michael. Thank you! That's just about what I would imagine it would look like. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael | | | | | | | | | | | Rudder | Two At SeaMay, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand | | | | View on www.twoatsea.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul WestAdventure KwestCal 39 From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

Greg - What that pic doesn't show is how they keep that wide bit centered in the tube so the widening isn't off center. Paul From: Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael. Thank you! That's just about what I would imagine it would look like. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael Rudder | Two At Sea May, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand View on www.twoatsea.com Preview by Yahoo From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

Paul & Greg, The OD (wide part) of the bit is the same diameter as the existing rudder tube ID. The "bit" is installed into the rudder tube, and the cutters are located at the "bottom" of the bit. Michael From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Greg - What that pic doesn't show is how they keep that wide bit centered in the tube so the widening isn't off center. Paul From: Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael. Thank you! That's just about what I would imagine it would look like. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael | | | | | | | | | | | Rudder | Two At Sea May, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand | | | | View on www.twoatsea.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 -----Original Message----- From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

Michael - Ahhh okay that makes sense. Couldn't see that in the pic. Thanks! Paul From: Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Paul & Greg, The OD (wide part) of the bit is the same diameter as the existing rudder tube ID. The "bit" is installed into the rudder tube, and the cutters are located at the "bottom" of the bit. Michael From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Greg - What that pic doesn't show is how they keep that wide bit centered in the tube so the widening isn't off center. Paul From: Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael. Thank you! That's just about what I would imagine it would look like. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael Rudder | Two At Sea May, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand View on www.twoatsea.com Preview by Yahoo From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 -----Original Message----- From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

I think the trick is to know what thickness of stock you are going to replace the tube with so that you ream it out the exact same size (or maybe a bit over) and then the new tube gets epoxied in to the reamed out hole. From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael - Ahhh okay that makes sense. Couldn't see that in the pic. Thanks! Paul From: Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Paul & Greg, The OD (wide part) of the bit is the same diameter as the existing rudder tube ID. The "bit" is installed into the rudder tube, and the cutters are located at the "bottom" of the bit. Michael From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Greg - What that pic doesn't show is how they keep that wide bit centered in the tube so the widening isn't off center. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael. Thank you! That's just about what I would imagine it would look like. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael | | | | | | | | | | | Rudder | Two At Sea May, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand | | | | View on www.twoatsea.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 -----Original Message----- From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

Yeah, that was my yard's concern before doing it. Kills me that I wasn't around to see what all they did. All I got to see was the tube reamed out. Paul From: Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 3:05 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) I think the trick is to know what thickness of stock you are going to replace the tube with so that you ream it out the exact same size (or maybe a bit over) and then the new tube gets epoxied in to the reamed out hole. From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael - Ahhh okay that makes sense. Couldn't see that in the pic. Thanks! Paul From: Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Paul & Greg, The OD (wide part) of the bit is the same diameter as the existing rudder tube ID. The "bit" is installed into the rudder tube, and the cutters are located at the "bottom" of the bit. Michael From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Greg - What that pic doesn't show is how they keep that wide bit centered in the tube so the widening isn't off center. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:42 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) Michael. Thank you! That's just about what I would imagine it would look like. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update (Greg) [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] Greg, Take a look at Rudder | Two At Sea. I sent the boat yard an email and they replied with the attached photo and drawing. Michael Rudder | Two At Sea May, 2013 while hauled out in Tauranga, New Zealand View on www.twoatsea.com Preview by Yahoo From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update Paul, I would love to hear how they made a reaming tool as I would probably try to do this work myself. Greg From: "pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Rudder Update I just got my Cal 39 back in the water after having a lower bearing fabricated for the rudder. The yard had to make the tool to ream out the tube and then make the bearing out of Delrin (I assume that's what its made of, I've not talked to them about what they did exactly yet). I was on vacation last week when they finished up the job so I didn't get to take any pics of the process unfortunately. Got a message that the invoice is $2,989.36 this morning. This may include the original splashing this spring as they hadn't billed me for that yet. So my guess is that it includes 2 splashings, one haul & blocking, rudder removal, rudder tube reaming, making the bearing and reinstalling everything. I stopped by the boat on my way home from vacation and turned the wheel and it felt good but that the only test I've done so far. Hope to be out racing tomorrow night so I'll let you know how it does. If anyone needs a bearing I can ask what he'd charge just for that. Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 -----Original Message----- From: ja… [at] mac.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 2:01 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update Michael...if you don't mind. What are you doing with the replacement of the tube and are you working in a bearing of some sort? My tube looks exactly like yours...rotation is stiff..deck plate leaks/broken. Did Foss provide a new tube for the shaft or are you having somebody else fabricate that for you? James SV Thalia

All, Magic's rudder arrived today, a week late, from California. It took a vacation along the way. It arrive in Fort Lauderdale on Monday, July 6th. For unknown reasons, it then was sent to Atlanta, GA. From there is traveled back to south Florida ending up in Miami last Friday. The carrier called me yesterday to schedule delivery. As soon as it arrived we uncrated it, and I took it to the marina for installation. More photos and updates as they happen... Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27Pompano Beach, FL

Michael,If we had an answer for that we would know why all the airline luggage goes astray. The rudder was plainly labeled MIA, the airline code for Miami. How that morphed into ATL is the real mystery. I was in that biz for six years and don't think I ever misread a tag or mistagged a bag, and we were using manual tags back then. I still miss it, except for getting up at 3AM.David Dobbs, CAL29 411 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 3:49 PM, "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] All, Magic's rudder arrived today, a week late, from California. It took a vacation along the way. It arrive in Fort Lauderdale on Monday, July 6th. For unknown reasons, it then was sent to Atlanta, GA. From there is traveled back to south Florida ending up in Miami last Friday. The carrier called me yesterday to schedule delivery. As soon as it arrived we uncrated it, and I took it to the marina for installation. More photos and updates as they happen... Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27Pompano Beach, FL

and if the rudder was the last touch to be added, where we live, we would have had to pay the yard for the time on the hard...yikes. (which we did in our case). Helen... be sure to check all the angles between the rudder and hull by test fit before drilling shaft. On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 2:34 PM, "david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Michael,If we had an answer for that we would know why all the airline luggage goes astray. The rudder was plainly labeled MIA, the airline code for Miami. How that morphed into ATL is the real mystery. I was in that biz for six years and don't think I ever misread a tag or mistagged a bag, and we were using manual tags back then. I still miss it, except for getting up at 3AM.David Dobbs, CAL29 411 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 3:49 PM, "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] All, Magic's rudder arrived today, a week late, from California. It took a vacation along the way. It arrive in Fort Lauderdale on Monday, July 6th. For unknown reasons, it then was sent to Atlanta, GA. From there is traveled back to south Florida ending up in Miami last Friday. The carrier called me yesterday to schedule delivery. As soon as it arrived we uncrated it, and I took it to the marina for installation. More photos and updates as they happen... Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27Pompano Beach, FL

Helen & David, Yes, I am paying for yard time. Had I known what was to happen, it would have been cheaper for me to have the rudder shipped air-freight FedEx overnight. A new rudder tube will be fabricated on the new rudder post. The existing rudder tube shows evidence that it was previously "repaired" using the graphite infused epoxy method, and it will be removed. The new rudder with new tube will be installed as a complete assembly, glassed in while aligned fore and aft as well as athwartship. The MIA label was added after it arrived in ATL, Incompetency/Carelessness played a role. Attached is the shipping/tracking information. Michael From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update and if the rudder was the last touch to be added, where we live, we would have had to pay the yard for the time on the hard...yikes. (which we did in our case). Helen... be sure to check all the angles between the rudder and hull by test fit before drilling shaft. On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 2:34 PM, "david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Michael,If we had an answer for that we would know why all the airline luggage goes astray. The rudder was plainly labeled MIA, the airline code for Miami. How that morphed into ATL is the real mystery. I was in that biz for six years and don't think I ever misread a tag or mistagged a bag, and we were using manual tags back then. I still miss it, except for getting up at 3AM.David Dobbs, CAL29 411 On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 3:49 PM, "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] All, Magic's rudder arrived today, a week late, from California. It took a vacation along the way. It arrive in Fort Lauderdale on Monday, July 6th. For unknown reasons, it then was sent to Atlanta, GA. From there is traveled back to south Florida ending up in Miami last Friday. The carrier called me yesterday to schedule delivery. As soon as it arrived we uncrated it, and I took it to the marina for installation. More photos and updates as they happen... Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27Pompano Beach, FL

All, The rudder is installed. The rudder tube was NOT replaced. The rudder tube was thoroughly cleaned. Two coats of epoxy was applied to the inside of the rudder tube. A cylinder hone was then used to fair the tube. The play/wobble is gone. Inside the boat, the rudder tube was reinforced with additional FRP at the hull and at the cockpit sole. Photos for that will follow. Magic's old rudder needs a new home. Anyone interested? Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27, 1979, #627Pompano Beach, FL

Michael, That's a nice looking prop strut. Did the yard fabricate that for you? Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:27 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday [5 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] All, The rudder is installed. The rudder tube was NOT replaced. The rudder tube was thoroughly cleaned. Two coats of epoxy was applied to the inside of the rudder tube. A cylinder hone was then used to fair the tube. The play/wobble is gone. Inside the boat, the rudder tube was reinforced with additional FRP at the hull and at the cockpit sole. Photos for that will follow. Magic's old rudder needs a new home. Anyone interested? Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27, 1979, #627Pompano Beach, FL

Greg, It was made by Frank & Jimmy's Propeller Shop in Fort Lauderdale about three years ago. The original bronze strut was cracked and failing. Basically, we removed the strut and took it to them. They replicated it in SS. It was part of the yard bill. I don't remember the price, but I'm thinking it was around $700. If you need one, it would be worth giving them a call. They may have saved drawings and could easily build one for you. Michael From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday Michael, That's a nice looking prop strut. Did the yard fabricate that for you? Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:27 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday [5 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] All, The rudder is installed. The rudder tube was NOT replaced. The rudder tube was thoroughly cleaned. Two coats of epoxy was applied to the inside of the rudder tube. A cylinder hone was then used to fair the tube. The play/wobble is gone. Inside the boat, the rudder tube was reinforced with additional FRP at the hull and at the cockpit sole. Photos for that will follow. Magic's old rudder needs a new home. Anyone interested? Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27, 1979, #627Pompano Beach, FL

Michael, Thanks for the information. The last time we hauled out I noticed ours was noticeably corroded as the previous owners decided to just paint it. We took all the paint off and put a zinc on it but it is something I will take a look at the next time we haul out. Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday Greg, It was made by Frank & Jimmy's Propeller Shop in Fort Lauderdale about three years ago. The original bronze strut was cracked and failing. Basically, we removed the strut and took it to them. They replicated it in SS. It was part of the yard bill. I don't remember the price, but I'm thinking it was around $700. If you need one, it would be worth giving them a call. They may have saved drawings and could easily build one for you. Michael From: "Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday Michael, That's a nice looking prop strut. Did the yard fabricate that for you? Greg From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:27 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday [5 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from Michael D included below] All, The rudder is installed. The rudder tube was NOT replaced. The rudder tube was thoroughly cleaned. Two coats of epoxy was applied to the inside of the rudder tube. A cylinder hone was then used to fair the tube. The play/wobble is gone. Inside the boat, the rudder tube was reinforced with additional FRP at the hull and at the cockpit sole. Photos for that will follow. Magic's old rudder needs a new home. Anyone interested? Michaels/v Magic, Cal 2-27, 1979, #627Pompano Beach, FL

How about that bottom paint--is it a custom color to match your sheer stripe, etc.?? Lookin' good! Chris Campbell

Chris, No, it's a standard color from Interlux. I use VC Offshore. It's a hard paint similar to Baltoplate. I dive/clean the bottom regularly using a scrub brush followed by a fine-grade sanding sponge. This keeps the bottom very smooth.... and hopefully fast. :) Michael From: "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Rudder Update - Magic Launches Friday How about that bottom paint--is it a custom color to match your sheer stripe, etc.?? Lookin' good! Chris Campbell

All, If you have been following Magic's rudder project, I ran into a snag regarding my PHRF rating. I would like to have your inputs. Since we race Magic on a regular basis, I promptly declared the equipment change to our club's race chair. He, in turn, suggested that I contact our local PHRF handicapper. The handicapper thinks that I should be pinged -3 or possibly -6 seconds on Magic's rating.

The race committee at my yacht club would likely 'wait and see' and if you started to win races when you hadn't before, or won by bigger margins, then your PHRF would be adjusted. As my Cal 2-27 has two wins and a 2nd place in our races thus far this season, I fully expect a tweak and a lowered PHRF (and that's fair, I think) Harold Beer Arcturus