10 messages2015-07-23 21:49 UTCthrough 2015-07-24 13:31 UTC
Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
George Barlow2015-07-23 21:49 UTC
I’ve used the same system for all my small boats. I figure if if was good enough for Capt. Slocum and Spray it would work for me. But I did find that moving about the boat does change the hull shape underwater and that can steer the boat a little also. You should try that sometime. Just wrap off the tiller for steady as she goes and do a walkabout.
George Barlow
Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
jo… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-23 21:57 UTC
That hadn't occurred to me, that I was steering when out walking around. I will give that a check. Thanks!
Joe
Don't Panic
Hull #206
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
Charlie Husar2015-07-24 01:28 UTC
I think if you go to lee side, the extra heel will cause the boat to round up some. Opposite effect on the other side. Not sure what going to the bow pulpit and burying the nose would do.
Cheers
Charlie
Annapolis
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
That hadn't occurred to me, that I was steering when out walking around. I will give that a check. Thanks!
Joe
Don't Panic
Hull #206
RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
John b2015-07-24 02:02 UTC
I've owned both a Cal 25 and a 227 the 25 almost steered itself and was so
well balanced that I could leave the helm and go below for short periods of
time. The 227 would round up before I reached the companion way. I
installed a tiller pilot and it helped a great deal while under power but
if I tried to go at full throttle the autohelm would be working constantly
and I would be on an s track to my destination.
On Jul 23, 2015 9:28 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <
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> up some. Opposite effect on the other side. Not sure what going to the
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> Cheers
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> Charlie
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> Annapolis
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> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:58 PM
> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
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> That hadn't occurred to me, that I was steering when out walking around. I
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Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
Alfred Poor2015-07-24 02:04 UTC
We had a tiller lock on our Cal 29 and it worked well, but for less than$30
you can get one of these on eBay that makes lashing down your tiller while
you go forward:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAVIS-INSTRUMENT-2205-DAVIS-TILLER-TAMER-/2520349737
90?hash=item3aae74805e
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAVIS-INSTRUMENT-2205-DAVIS-TILLER-TAMER-/252034973
790?hash=item3aae74805e&vxp=mtr> &vxp=mtr
As others have pointed out, shifting your weight on the boat will cause it
to change heading. Also, if the wind is not coming straight over the bow, or
if there is boat wake from one side, or any of a number of other factors,
the boat will turn. It happens. The only solution is an autopilot, and at
slow speeds such as you'd use when hoisting a sail, even that may have a
difficult time holding a steady course. It's part of the challenge of single
handing.
All the best,
Alfred Poor
1973 Tartan 34C #288 "Jambalaya"
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
Gerald Sobel2015-07-24 04:51 UTC
I've used a Davis "Tiller Tamer" that I installed six months after I bought my boat-that's 18 years now. It has a dial clutch which allows you to trim the tiller in any position, and you can dial in as much friction as you want. I mounted the dial under my tiller, out of the way. I works for me, but the idea of a line around the boat which you can use to readjust the tiller while you're on the foredeck, say, setting up a whisker pole, sounds nice, but I haven't tried one yet. I bought mine from West Marine, but I bet most catalogs have them.
On Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:04 PM, "'Alfred Poor' ap… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
We had a tiller lock on our Cal 29 and it worked well, but for less than$30 you can get one of these on eBay that makes lashing down your tiller while you go forward: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAVIS-INSTRUMENT-2205-DAVIS-TILLER-TAMER-/252034973790?hash=item3aae74805e&vxp=mtr As others have pointed out, shifting your weight on the boat will cause it to change heading. Also, if the wind is not coming straight over the bow, or if there is boat wake from one side, or any of a number of other factors, the boat will turn. It happens. The only solution is an autopilot, and at slow speeds such as you’d use when hoisting a sail, even that may have a difficult time holding a steady course. It’s part of the challenge of single handing. All the best, Alfred Poor1973 Tartan 34C #288 “Jambalaya” -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv4108698446ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv4108698446ad p {margin:0;} .yiv4108698446ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv4108698446ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv4108698446underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv4108698446attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv4108698446attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv4108698446attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv4108698446attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv4108698446attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv4108698446bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv4108698446bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv4108698446last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv4108698446last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv4108698446last p span.yiv4108698446yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv4108698446attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv4108698446attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv4108698446file-title a, div.yiv4108698446file-title a:active, div.yiv4108698446file-title a:hover, div.yiv4108698446file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv4108698446photo-title a, div.yiv4108698446photo-title a:active, div.yiv4108698446photo-title a:hover, div.yiv4108698446photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv4108698446yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv4108698446green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv4108698446MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv4108698446replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}
Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
jo… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-24 13:14 UTC
That is something I don't know I would have thought of but makes sense. Thank you.
Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
jo… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-24 13:15 UTC
Another item that I didn't even know existed. Thanks!
Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
jo… [at] yahoo.com2015-07-24 13:16 UTC
Thanks for the idea and the link.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: singlehanding & tiller lock of some kind.
ccampbell2015-07-24 13:31 UTC
On 7/23/2015 10:04 PM, 'Alfred Poor' ap… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats] wrote:
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> We had a tiller lock on our Cal 29 and it worked well, but for less
> than$30 you can get one of these on eBay that makes lashing down your
> tiller while you go forward:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAVIS-INSTRUMENT-2205-DAVIS-TILLER-TAMER-/252034973790?hash=item3aae74805e&vxp=mtr
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I'm going to endorse the Davis Tiller Tamer too. My Cal 20 came with
one and I love it. I use it all the time, and it holds the tiller in a
fixed position when the boat is moored. It introduces just the right
amount of friction to improve handling of the Cal 20's transom-hung
outboard rudder.
When I am hoisting the mainsail on my mooring, I use it to set the
tiller off to the side so when I get the sail up and then pull forward
on the mooring line, the boat will turn in the opposite direction and
begin sailing. Once under sail and out of the mooring field, I'll use
it to hold the boat on course while I hoist the jib. I generally favor
a course hold that will make the boat round up very slightly, as opposed
to falling off, just because if the boat heads up a bit it will
eventually fall off a bit, then round up, then fall off (if my foredeck
task takes longer than expected).
LOVE the Tiller Tamer. My other boat does not have one (bad tiller setup
for one on that boat). I do a lot of hopping around to get sails up and
down single-handed on that boat.
Bear in mind that one negative aspect of any tiller control device is
that if you fall overboard while sailing alone, the boat sails off
happily without you instead of heading up and waiting.
Also, the Tiller Tamer is plastic, and if you step on or otherwise abuse
one of the control lines, it can break the plastic side guides.
Chris Campbell
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> As others have pointed out, shifting your weight on the boat will
> cause it to change heading. Also, if the wind is not coming straight
> over the bow, or if there is boat wake from one side, or any of a
> number of other factors, the boat will turn. It happens. The only
> solution is an autopilot, and at slow speeds such as you’d use when
> hoisting a sail, even that may have a difficult time holding a steady
> course. It’s part of the challenge of single handing.
>
> All the best,
>
> Alfred Poor
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> 1973 Tartan 34C #288 “Jambalaya”
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