Re: [Cal_Boats] OB suggestions and backing plate width

Kevin, What is called a "long shaft" measures 23" from the upper. inner surface of the OB mounting clamp, to the lower surface of the cavitation plate. (short shaft will measure 17") On the Cal 25 that should work. I don't know what the true measurement is on a 25" model. Deeper is better on an ocean going sailboat, with the caveat that you want the prop to clear the water when you tilt up the OB for silence and best sailing speed. Fast is fun! On the old Cal 25 I owned briefly, the transom plywood was delaminating and dry-rotting. My Cal 24 doesn't have a cut-away to mount the OB, but rather, it has a hinging, scissor style OB mount that allows additional dropping and lifting flexiability. 9.8 HP will give you lots of power, but you can get away with 6HP. Lighter is better, for less hobby horsing in chop. Gerald Sobel of yea olde venabull Cal 24-1 Shpritz, Queen of all Cals. -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 1/12/16, Kevin Swart kg… [at] earthlink.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Subject: [Cal_Boats] OB suggestions and backing plate width To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016, 7:08 AM I'm planning on repowering my Cal 25 this year and would like some advice. I'm going with a Tohatsu 9.8 four stroke and need to determine shaft length. I can get a 20" or 25" shaft. Recommendations? Also I'm planning on installing a stern pulpit and need to know how wide I can go with a backing plate for the brackets. Easy for my to answer these two questions but my boat is two hours from me at the moment. Thanks in advance for all of your help! Kevin Swart SV Panache

We added a Tohatsu 9.8 hp outboard to our CAL 2-25. We love it. Went with the extra long shaft. It is a 4 stroke so little vibration and much quieter. Best Regards, Shauna Welch MystiCAL 2-25 > On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Kevin, > What is called a "long shaft" measures 23" from the upper. inner surface of the OB mounting clamp, to the lower surface of the cavitation plate. (short shaft will measure 17") On the Cal 25 that should work. I don't know what the true measurement is on a 25" model. Deeper is better on an ocean going sailboat, with the caveat that you want the prop to clear the water when you tilt up the OB for silence and best sailing speed. Fast is fun! > > On the old Cal 25 I owned briefly, the transom plywood was delaminating and dry-rotting. > My Cal 24 doesn't have a cut-away to mount the OB, but rather, it has a hinging, scissor style OB mount that allows additional dropping and lifting flexiability. > > 9.8 HP will give you lots of power, but you can get away with 6HP. Lighter is better, for less hobby horsing in chop. > > Gerald Sobel of yea olde venabull Cal 24-1 Shpritz, Queen of all Cals. > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 1/12/16, Kevin Swart kg… [at] earthlink.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Subject: [Cal_Boats] OB suggestions and backing plate width > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016, 7:08 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm planning on > repowering my Cal 25 this year and would like some advice. > I'm going with a Tohatsu 9.8 four stroke and need to > determine shaft length. I can get a 20" or 25" > shaft. Recommendations? > Also I'm > planning on installing a stern pulpit and need to know how > wide I can go with a backing plate for the brackets. > Easy for my to answer these two questions but > my boat is two hours from me at the moment. > > Thanks in advance for all of > your help! > > Kevin Swart > SV Panache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > { > margin:10px > 0;padding:0 10px;} > > hr { > } > > { > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px > 0;} > > { > margin-bottom:10px;} > > .yiv8164367354ad { > } > > .yiv8164367354ad p { > } > > .yiv8164367354ad a { > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} > > { > } > > > { > margin:10px > 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} > > > .yiv8164367354ad { > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} > > { > } > > { > background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} > > span { > font-weight:700;} > > span:first-child { > text-transform:uppercase;} > > span a { > color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} > > span span { > color:#ff7900;} > > span > .yiv8164367354underline { > text-decoration:underline;} > > .yiv8164367354attach { > clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px > 0;width:400px;} > > .yiv8164367354attach div a { > text-decoration:none;} > > .yiv8164367354attach img { > padding-right:5px;} > > .yiv8164367354attach label { > display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} > > .yiv8164367354attach label a { > text-decoration:none;} > > blockquote { > } > > .yiv8164367354bold { > font-weight:700;} > > .yiv8164367354bold a { > text-decoration:none;} > > dd.yiv8164367354last p a { > font-weight:700;} > > dd.yiv8164367354last p span { > margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} > > dd.yiv8164367354last p > span.yiv8164367354yshortcuts { > margin-right:0;} > > div.yiv8164367354attach-table div div a { > text-decoration:none;} > > div.yiv8164367354attach-table { > } > > div.yiv8164367354file-title a, > div.yiv8164367354file-title a:active, > div.yiv8164367354file-title a:hover, > div.yiv8164367354file-title a:visited { > text-decoration:none;} > > div.yiv8164367354photo-title a, > div.yiv8164367354photo-title a:active, > div.yiv8164367354photo-title a:hover, > div.yiv8164367354photo-title a:visited { > text-decoration:none;} > > div > p a span.yiv8164367354yshortcuts { > font-weight:normal;} > > .yiv8164367354green { > color:#628c2a;} > > .yiv8164367354MsoNormal { > } > > o { > } > > div { > float:left;width:72px;} > > div div { > border:1px solid > #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} > > div label { > color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} > > { > } > > { > } > > .yiv8164367354replbq { > } > > div a:first-child { > margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} > > { > font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, > sans-serif;} > > table { > font:100%;} > > select, > input, textarea { > font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} > > pre, > code { > font:115% monospace;} > > * { > } > > { > padding-bottom:10px;} > > > p a { > } > > > p span { > color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} > > > { > color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} > > { > margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} > > > li a { > text-decoration:none;} > > > li { > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} > > > ul { > } > > { > } > > p { > } > > tt { > } > > ul li:last-child { > border-right:none !important; > } > >

Ditto, for my 2-25. 9.8 HP Tohatsu extra long shaft, really quiet compared to my 2 stroke. Mike Casillo Invincible Summer, Cal 2-25 > On Jan 12, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Shauna's Gmail sm… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > We added a Tohatsu 9.8 hp outboard to our CAL 2-25. We love it. Went with the extra long shaft. It is a 4 stroke so little vibration and much quieter. > > Best Regards, > > Shauna Welch > MystiCAL 2-25 > >> On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Kevin, >> What is called a "long shaft" measures 23" from the upper. inner surface of the OB mounting clamp, to the lower surface of the cavitation plate. (short shaft will measure 17") On the Cal 25 that should work. I don't know what the true measurement is on a 25" model. Deeper is better on an ocean going sailboat, with the caveat that you want the prop to clear the water when you tilt up the OB for silence and best sailing speed. Fast is fun! >> >> On the old Cal 25 I owned briefly, the transom plywood was delaminating and dry-rotting. >> My Cal 24 doesn't have a cut-away to mount the OB, but rather, it has a hinging, scissor style OB mount that allows additional dropping and lifting flexiability. >> >> 9.8 HP will give you lots of power, but you can get away with 6HP. Lighter is better, for less hobby horsing in chop. >> >> Gerald Sobel of yea olde venabull Cal 24-1 Shpritz, Queen of all Cals. >> -------------------------------------------- >> On Tue, 1/12/16, Kevin Swart kg… [at] earthlink.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] OB suggestions and backing plate width >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016, 7:08 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm planning on >> repowering my Cal 25 this year and would like some advice. >> I'm going with a Tohatsu 9.8 four stroke and need to >> determine shaft length. I can get a 20" or 25" >> shaft. Recommendations? >> Also I'm >> planning on installing a stern pulpit and need to know how >> wide I can go with a backing plate for the brackets. >> Easy for my to answer these two questions but >> my boat is two hours from me at the moment. >> >> Thanks in advance for all of >> your help! >> >> Kevin Swart >> SV Panache >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> { >> margin:10px >> 0;padding:0 10px;} >> >> hr { >> } >> >> { >> color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px >> 0;} >> >> { >> margin-bottom:10px;} >> >> .yiv8164367354ad { >> } >> >> .yiv8164367354ad p { >> } >> >> .yiv8164367354ad a { >> color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} >> >> { >> } >> >> >> { >> margin:10px >> 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} >> >> >> .yiv8164367354ad { >> margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} >> >> { >> } >> >> { >> background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} >> >> span { >> font-weight:700;} >> >> span:first-child { >> text-transform:uppercase;} >> >> span a { >> color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} >> >> span span { >> color:#ff7900;} >> >> span >> .yiv8164367354underline { >> text-decoration:underline;} >> >> .yiv8164367354attach { >> clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px >> 0;width:400px;} >> >> .yiv8164367354attach div a { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> .yiv8164367354attach img { >> padding-right:5px;} >> >> .yiv8164367354attach label { >> display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} >> >> .yiv8164367354attach label a { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> blockquote { >> } >> >> .yiv8164367354bold { >> font-weight:700;} >> >> .yiv8164367354bold a { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> dd.yiv8164367354last p a { >> font-weight:700;} >> >> dd.yiv8164367354last p span { >> margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} >> >> dd.yiv8164367354last p >> span.yiv8164367354yshortcuts { >> margin-right:0;} >> >> div.yiv8164367354attach-table div div a { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> div.yiv8164367354attach-table { >> } >> >> div.yiv8164367354file-title a, >> div.yiv8164367354file-title a:active, >> div.yiv8164367354file-title a:hover, >> div.yiv8164367354file-title a:visited { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> div.yiv8164367354photo-title a, >> div.yiv8164367354photo-title a:active, >> div.yiv8164367354photo-title a:hover, >> div.yiv8164367354photo-title a:visited { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> div >> p a span.yiv8164367354yshortcuts { >> font-weight:normal;} >> >> .yiv8164367354green { >> color:#628c2a;} >> >> .yiv8164367354MsoNormal { >> } >> >> o { >> } >> >> div { >> float:left;width:72px;} >> >> div div { >> border:1px solid >> #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} >> >> div label { >> color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} >> >> { >> } >> >> { >> } >> >> .yiv8164367354replbq { >> } >> >> div a:first-child { >> margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} >> >> { >> font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, >> sans-serif;} >> >> table { >> font:100%;} >> >> select, >> input, textarea { >> font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} >> >> pre, >> code { >> font:115% monospace;} >> >> * { >> } >> >> { >> padding-bottom:10px;} >> >> >> p a { >> } >> >> >> p span { >> color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} >> >> >> { >> color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} >> >> { >> margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} >> >> >> li a { >> text-decoration:none;} >> >> >> li { >> list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} >> >> >> ul { >> } >> >> { >> } >> >> p { >> } >> >> tt { >> } >> >> ul li:last-child { >> border-right:none !important; >> } >> > >

The Annapolis folks go with long shaft (20 inch) on our CAL 25s with the stern engine cut-out (not 2-25). I’m sure a 25 inch would drag in the water when in up position on a flat deck 25. Depending on where one puts the telescope mount on a 2-25, a 25 incher might be necessary. Many of us have 6HP, but a 9.8 does work well (especially in sloppier water). The weight of the larger engine (8, 9.8, and 15 all usually have the same block and engine size) can be stressful on the stern transom beam on a 25. I’ve replaced a few of those wood beams myself. Not trivial. That is when I discovered cow gloves to keep the epoxy from drooling all over my arm. :- ] I assume that you will be leaving the 9.8 engine on the stern when the boat is parked. Removal takes some oomph. On the 6 horse engines, we often store them on the cabin floor below. Take Care Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 1:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] OB suggestions and backing plate width We added a Tohatsu 9.8 hp outboard to our CAL 2-25. We love it. Went with the extra long shaft. It is a 4 stroke so little vibration and much quieter. Best Regards, Shauna Welch MystiCAL 2-25 On Jan 12, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:so… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Kevin, What is called a "long shaft" measures 23" from the upper. inner surface of the OB mounting clamp, to the lower surface of the cavitation plate. (short shaft will measure 17") On the Cal 25 that should work. I don't know what the true measurement is on a 25" model. Deeper is better on an ocean going sailboat, with the caveat that you want the prop to clear the water when you tilt up the OB for silence and best sailing speed. Fast is fun! On the old Cal 25 I owned briefly, the transom plywood was delaminating and dry-rotting. My Cal 24 doesn't have a cut-away to mount the OB, but rather, it has a hinging, scissor style OB mount that allows additional dropping and lifting flexiability. 9.8 HP will give you lots of power, but you can get away with 6HP. Lighter is better, for less hobby horsing in chop. Gerald Sobel of yea olde venabull Cal 24-1 Shpritz, Queen of all Cals. -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 1/12/16, Kevin Swart kg… [at] earthlink.net <mailto:kg… [at] earthlink.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Subject: [Cal_Boats] OB suggestions and backing plate width To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: Tuesday, January 12, 2016, 7:08 AM I'm planning on repowering my Cal 25 this year and would like some advice. I'm going with a Tohatsu 9.8 four stroke and need to determine shaft length. I can get a 20" or 25" shaft. Recommendations? Also I'm planning on installing a stern pulpit and need to know how wide I can go with a backing plate for the brackets. Easy for my to answer these two questions but my boat is two hours from me at the moment. Thanks in advance for all of your help! Kevin Swart SV Panache

On 1/12/2016 8:35 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > That is when I discovered cow gloves to keep the epoxy from drooling > all over my arm. :- ] OK, I'll bite. Tell me about cow gloves. Are people allowed to buy them, or do you have to know a cow? Chris Campbell >

Cow Gloves :Should be able to get them at any veterinary supply. They are super long gloves used for rectal and vaginal exams on bovine species. Go up to your shoulder. See them a lot in Texas. George Barlow Fort Worth, Texas > On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:42 AM, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > On 1/12/2016 8:35 PM, 'Charlie Husar'hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> That is when I discovered cow gloves to keep the epoxy from drooling all over my arm. :- ] > > OK, I'll bite. Tell me about cow gloves. Are people allowed to buy them, or do you have to know a cow? > > Chris Campbell >> > > >