mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29

Looking to mount a Davis Echomaster radar reflector on a Cal 29. I have seen other boats mount this a little ways in from the end of a spreader, and also seen a photo of it mounted where the split backstay comes together. Does anyone have any advice or example of how this has been done?

My CAL 2-25 has one out near the end of the starboard spreader. Seems to me higher or farther out would be best for reflectivity. Tom CAL 2-25 Monterey, CA From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 1:08 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Looking to mount a Davis Echomaster radar reflector on a Cal 29. I have seen other boats mount this a little ways in from the end of a spreader, and also seen a photo of it mounted where the split backstay comes together. Does anyone have any advice or example of how this has been done? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Hi Tom Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? Chris O. Los Angeles, CA '72 Cal 29

It’s on a halyard. If you want, I can get a picture later. It was on the boat when I purchased in October so I’m not certain about how it’s mounted but I WILL get you a picture. ..tom From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Hi Tom Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? Chris O. Los Angeles, CA '72 Cal 29 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Here you go. It appears that PO had the option to attach it to the port spreader also. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Hi Tom Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? Chris O. Los Angeles, CA '72 Cal 29 --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

It would be typical to somehow attach a block to the spreader (screws or clamps for a round spreader). That block can then be used for pennants or a radar reflector. I’d be worried about hitting it with the sail on a tack. Might want it somewhat farther inboard (which increases interference from the mast. I think the backstay fork would be too low, and the main might interfere with it. Not really many good places for a movable mounting position. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:51 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from TomDressler included below] Here you go. It appears that PO had the option to attach it to the port spreader also. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Hi Tom Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? Chris O. Los Angeles, CA '72 Cal 29 _____ <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus>

Charlie,Another case of variation on the 29. Mine has a split backstay, but was not original. Another 29 in my club has the "straight" backstay. I like the split arrangement, gives more adjustments. David, Cal29 411 On Tuesday, February 2, 2016 7:18 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: It would be typical to somehow attach a block to the spreader (screws or clamps for a round spreader). That block can then be used for pennants or a radar reflector. I’d be worried about hitting it with the sail on a tack. Might want it somewhat farther inboard (which increases interference from the mast. I think the backstay fork would be too low, and the main might interfere with it. Not really many good places for a movable mounting position. CheersCharlieAnnapolisCAL 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:51 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from TomDressler included below] Here you go.It appears that PO had the option to attach it to the port spreader also. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Hi Tom Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? Chris O. Los Angeles, CA '72 Cal 29 | | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com |

Can’t speak directly to the 29, but on Nemesis I have mine mounted on the backstay. It is as far up as I can reach when standing on the end of the boom, supported,of course, by the topping lift. This puts it above the radar, and leaves room below it to mount the sleeve for the MOB Pole just below it. I like the fact that it is behind and out of the way of those expensive and fragile white things that some people hang from their masts. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:18 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > It would be typical to somehow attach a block to the spreader (screws or clamps for a round spreader). That block can then be used for pennants or a radar reflector. I’d be worried about hitting it with the sail on a tack. Might want it somewhat farther inboard (which increases interference from the mast. > > > > I think the backstay fork would be too low, and the main might interfere with it. Not really many good places for a movable mounting position. > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > CAL 25 > > >

Charlie, Are you now speaking directly about the location of the reflector on my spreader? I have not experienced any issues yet. I would be more concerned about the main halyard interfering. I already have a question about the configuration of the lazyjacks. The battens get caught sometimes if I’m not PERFECTLY into the wind or I’m in a hurry and raise it too soon. Yes, I’m listening. Oh and Helen..no, I did NOT go out this past weekend! : ) Thanks. Tom CAL 2-25 Monterey, CA From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 5:19 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 It would be typical to somehow attach a block to the spreader (screws or clamps for a round spreader). That block can then be used for pennants or a radar reflector. I’d be worried about hitting it with the sail on a tack. Might want it somewhat farther inboard (which increases interference from the mast. I think the backstay fork would be too low, and the main might interfere with it. Not really many good places for a movable mounting position. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:51 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 [2 Attachments] [Attachment(s) from TomDressler included below] Here you go. It appears that PO had the option to attach it to the port spreader also. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Hi Tom Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? Chris O. Los Angeles, CA '72 Cal 29 _____ <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> Image removed by sender. Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/antivirus> --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

One could put a block on the backstay, and run it up farther. I did this with a frame for a parade of lights. At least on a CAL 25, the main fills the aft triangle and hits the backstay on tacks. That would put the reflector at risk when sailing IMHO. This boat (Arctic Tern -1489) belongs to a lady friend. Mine is Imron black with chicken logos on the sides. :- ] Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:37 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 Can't speak directly to the 29, but on Nemesis I have mine mounted on the backstay. It is as far up as I can reach when standing on the end of the boom, supported,of course, by the topping lift. This puts it above the radar, and leaves room below it to mount the sleeve for the MOB Pole just below it. I like the fact that it is behind and out of the way of those expensive and fragile white things that some people hang from their masts. Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:18 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: It would be typical to somehow attach a block to the spreader (screws or clamps for a round spreader). That block can then be used for pennants or a radar reflector. I'd be worried about hitting it with the sail on a tack. Might want it somewhat farther inboard (which increases interference from the mast. I think the backstay fork would be too low, and the main might interfere with it. Not really many good places for a movable mounting position. Cheers Charlie Annapolis CAL 25

On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:33 PM, Fred Haas <ca… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > Can’t speak directly to the 29, but on Nemesis I have mine mounted on the backstay. It is as far up as I can reach when standing on the end of the boom, supported,of course, by the topping lift. This puts it above the radar, and leaves room below it for the sleeve for the MOB Pole to mount just below it. > On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:18 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> It would be typical to somehow attach a block to the spreader (screws or clamps for a round spreader). That block can then be used for pennants or a radar reflector. I’d be worried about hitting it with the sail on a tack. Might want it somewhat farther inboard (which increases interference from the mast. >> >> >> >> I think the backstay fork would be too low, and the main might interfere with it. Not really many good places for a movable mounting position. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Charlie >> >> Annapolis >> >> CAL 25 >> >> >> >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:51 PM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 [2 Attachments] >> >> >> >> [Attachment(s) from TomDressler included below] >> >> >> >> Here you go. >> >> It appears that PO had the option to attach it to the port spreader also. >> >> >> >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:14 PM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] mounting of davis echomaster on cal 29 >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Tom >> >> >> >> Thanks for your answer.. can I ask.. is it mounted fixed, or can you lower via a halyard? Did you have to mount any hardware into the spreader? >> >> >> >> Chris O. >> >> >> >> Los Angeles, CA >> >> >> >> '72 Cal 29 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <~WRD000.jpg> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <image002.jpg><image001.jpg> >

I was waiting to see if anybody else had commented--however it's secured on the boat, the preferred position is the "raincatch" position, as I recall from _Practical Sailor_. That is, one of the empty segments should be pointed up such that it would fill with rain if the joints were sealed. That's the most reflective position. I think the one on our local schooner has a bridle to hold it that way. Chris Campbell

Thanks all, for your input... especially for the photos Tom.. I also came across this: http://www.davisnet.com/product_documents/marine/manuals/00155-010_IM_00152_153_157.pdf http://www.davisnet.com/product_documents/marine/manuals/00155-010_IM_00152_153_157.pdf I will be going up the mast to retrieve the main halyard so while I am up there I plan to install on the spreader... Chris O. Cal 29 Los Angeles, CA