Boot Stripe Paint

Hi, All. In previous discussions, I remember that salt or brackish water attacks some paints used on boot stripes. I was wondering what the best stuff is to use for the purpose. Many Thanks Charlie Annapolis

Either Interlux Brightsides or Toplac will work well _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Husar Charlie Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 2:24 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Paint Hi, All. In previous discussions, I remember that salt or brackish water attacks some paints used on boot stripes. I was wondering what the best stuff is to use for the purpose. Many Thanks Charlie Annapolis

Interlux recommends their Brightside product. I will tell you in a few years how it held up. Terry Spencer Cal 2-29 Capriccio Tacoma From: "Husar Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:24:14 -0400 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Paint Hi, All. In previous discussions, I remember that salt or brackish water attacks some paints used on boot stripes. I was wondering what the best stuff is to use for the purpose. Many Thanks Charlie Annapolis

Mine has held up beautifully for 4 years so far. Maybe on a long tack (Hawaii?) it might not like to be continually immersed. I know Awlgrip doesn't. David Wilkie Owen Cal 2-29 "Mariposa" Santa Barbara, CA http://www.mariposasailing.com From: "Terrence Spencer" <ts… [at] harbornet.com> To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Paint > Interlux recommends their Brightside product. I will tell you in a few > years how it held up. > > Terry Spencer > Cal 2-29 > Capriccio > Tacoma > > > From: "Husar Charlie" <hu… [at] bah.com> > Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:24:14 -0400 > To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Paint > > > > > > Hi, All. In previous discussions, I remember that salt or brackish > water attacks some paints used on boot stripes. I was wondering what > the best stuff is to use for the purpose. > > Many Thanks > Charlie > Annapolis > > > >

Hey All- My Cal 2-25 has a burgundy (I think it was marketed at the time as Chinese Red) boot stripe, consisting of a an approximate 1" stripe below a stripe of varying thickness from about 4" - 7" and mirror image striping at the waterline. The red is looking its age, and I'm considering options for a new paint job or vinyl stripe. I think vinyl for the larger stripe is not a good option because the width would make it expensive and difficult to apply. As for paint, there are several options, such as Interlux Brightside, which is also marketed in smaller quantities as boot stripe paint, there is also Pettit and Interlux 1 and 2 part polyurethane. My boat yard uses Awlgrip, which from I understand is pro-use only. This is a DYI project, possibly done at the dock on a still day. This approach is prompted in part by the 2 boat buck quote from my boat yard. I'm thinking others have faced this issue before, so your insights are welcome. My specific questions are have any of you all re-painted or applied a vinyl stripe to update the look on your boats, if so would you recommend the product used, is primer necessary, if you think it could be done at the dock, and any tips on the application. Thanks in advance. Best, Mike Casillo Invincible Summer, Cal 2-25 Annapollis

About 15 years ago I faced the same problem on a Catalina 27. First painted it with Brightside (forest green). Lasted about two years! Then went with 3 inch vinyl tape. Lasted years, only problem was a few tears from contact with hard objects! Ted 1988 Cal 33 Celebration From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:34 AM To: Cal List Serve <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Paint Hey All- My Cal 2-25 has a burgundy (I think it was marketed at the time as Chinese Red) boot stripe, consisting of a an approximate 1" stripe below a stripe of varying thickness from about 4" - 7" and mirror image striping at the waterline. The red is looking its age, and I'm considering options for a new paint job or vinyl stripe. I think vinyl for the larger stripe is not a good option because the width would make it expensive and difficult to apply. As for paint, there are several options, such as Interlux Brightside, which is also marketed in smaller quantities as boot stripe paint, there is also Pettit and Interlux 1 and 2 part polyurethane. My boat yard uses Awlgrip, which from I understand is pro-use only. This is a DYI project, possibly done at the dock on a still day. This approach is prompted in part by the 2 boat buck quote from my boat yard. I'm thinking others have faced this issue before, so your insights are welcome. My specific questions are have any of you all re-painted or applied a vinyl stripe to update the look on your boats, if so would you recommend the product used, is primer necessary, if you think it could be done at the dock, and any tips on the application. Thanks in advance. Best, Mike Casillo Invincible Summer, Cal 2-25 Annapollis _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4522/11602 - Release Date: 02/11/16

The Brightside, Forest Green, still looks pretty good on my boat after 8 years except for a few minor scratches. Terry Cal 2-29 Capriccio Tacoma > On Feb 14, 2016, at 6:00 AM, 'Ted Wrobel' tw… [at] tacticaltech.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > About 15 years ago I faced the same problem on a Catalina 27. First painted it with Brightside (forest green). Lasted about two years! Then went with 3 inch vinyl tape. Lasted years, only problem was a few tears from contact with hard objects! > > > > Ted > > 1988 Cal 33 Celebration > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:34 AM > To: Cal List Serve <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Boot Stripe Paint > > > > > > Hey All- > > > > My Cal 2-25 has a burgundy (I think it was marketed at the time as Chinese Red) boot stripe, consisting of a an approximate 1" stripe below a stripe of varying thickness from about 4" - 7" and mirror image striping at the waterline. The red is looking its age, and I'm considering options for a new paint job or vinyl stripe. > > > > I think vinyl for the larger stripe is not a good option because the width would make it expensive and difficult to apply. As for paint, there are several options, such as Interlux Brightside, which is also marketed in smaller quantities as boot stripe paint, there is also Pettit and Interlux 1 and 2 part polyurethane. My boat yard uses Awlgrip, which from I understand is pro-use only. This is a DYI project, possibly done at the dock on a still day. This approach is prompted in part by the 2 boat buck quote from my boat yard. > > > > I'm thinking others have faced this issue before, so your insights are welcome. My specific questions are have any of you all re-painted or applied a vinyl stripe to update the look on your boats, if so would you recommend the product used, is primer necessary, if you think it could be done at the dock, and any tips on the application. Thanks in advance. > > > > Best, > > > > Mike Casillo > > Invincible Summer, Cal 2-25 > > Annapollis > > > > > > > > > < span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/> > Version: 2015.0.6189 / Virus Database: 4522/11602 - Release Date: 02/11/16 > > >

My Cal 28-II had the same Chinese red. Drove me crazy. I used the Brightsides paint, but here is the difference: I carefully prepped the surface. Wax and gunk gets in the pores of the gelcoat and the surface appears clean, but it isn't. Wash it down with a 3M scouring pad and TSP. Rinse and scrub again with clear water. Allow to dry. Then swab it down with Interlux solvent 333 using an old rag. You'll need several. Lot'sa stuff will appear on the rag. Also, wear gloves, that stuff will dissolve fingers, I think.... Mask it off with the green tape, or better yet, the black tape that you can get at a professional paint store. Be sure to run your finger over the tape carefully to be sure it doesn't blotch under the tape.

Thanks Carl! It sounds like a bigger job than I originally thought. A few follow-up questions: -are you happy with the results? -do you have a pic? -knowing what it entails, would you recommend painting (instead of vinyl tape)? Best, Mike Casillo > On Feb 15, 2016, at 8:48 AM, ca… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > My Cal 28-II had the same Chinese red. Drove me crazy. I used the Brightsides paint, but here is the difference: I carefully prepped the surface. Wax and gunk gets in the pores of the gelcoat and the surface appears clean, but it isn't. Wash it down with a 3M scouring pad and TSP. Rinse and scrub again with clear water. Allow to dry. Then swab it down with Interlux solvent 333 using an old rag. You'll need several. Lot'sa stuff will appear on the rag. Also, wear gloves, that stuff will dissolve fingers, I think.... Mask it off with the green tape, or better yet, the black tape that you can get at a professional paint store. Be sure to run your finger over the tape carefully to be sure it doesn't blotch under the tape. > >

Hi, All. Even if you do not wax your hull, and you have the original gelcoat, there is wax left over from the mold release still embedded in that gelcoat. As Carl indicates, prep is everything. I have used Interlux 202. Toxic aromatic stuff, needs a good mask on the user. Job also requires fine sanding. Have not tried the TSP. I go 202 – sand – 202 – acetone. It is kind of scary when acetone is the gentlest chemical one uses. Sanding can also be touchy at the edges of the stripe and up against the rub rail. Strong tape indeed helps a lot. Then there is tip and roll on the paint. Kind of depends on whether you want the 50 foot job or the nose against the hull job (speaking about viewing distance). Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:48 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Paint My Cal 28-II had the same Chinese red. Drove me crazy. I used the Brightsides paint, but here is the difference: I carefully prepped the surface. Wax and gunk gets in the pores of the gelcoat and the surface appears clean, but it isn't. Wash it down with a 3M scouring pad and TSP. Rinse and scrub again with clear water. Allow to dry. Then swab it down with Interlux solvent 333 using an old rag. You'll need several. Lot'sa stuff will appear on the rag. Also, wear gloves, that stuff will dissolve fingers, I think.... Mask it off with the green tape, or better yet, the black tape that you can get at a professional paint store. Be sure to run your finger over the tape carefully to be sure it doesn't blotch under the tape.

"The 202 is not that bad. Just do things outside, assume you will have good gloves on, and don't sniff the stuff, it will gag you, make you dizzy, and kill lots of brain cells." Ahhh, such a feeling. And just think (if you still can), it is not illegal. By the way, the 202 takes two rags. It is so volatile, that you need to put it on and wipe off very quickly. One hand following the other. Cheers, I guess Charlie From: Carl Heintz [mailto:ca… [at] hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:23 PM To: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Paint Charlie is right on. I probably should have used 240 grit wet dry sandpaper, but the scouring pad was oh so much easier to use, and I used it with the TSP at the same time, so basically combined two steps in one. The 202 is not that bad. Just do things outside, assume you will have good gloves on, and don't sniff the stuff, it will gag you, make you dizzy, and kill lots of brain cells. Best done on a slightly breezy day. _____ From: hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ; ca… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:ca… [at] hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Paint Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:45:11 -0500 Hi, All. Even if you do not wax your hull, and you have the original gelcoat, there is wax left over from the mold release still embedded in that gelcoat. As Carl indicates, prep is everything. I have used Interlux 202. Toxic aromatic stuff, needs a good mask on the user. Job also requires fine sanding. Have not tried the TSP. I go 202 - sand - 202 - acetone. It is kind of scary when acetone is the gentlest chemical one uses. Sanding can also be touchy at the edges of the stripe and up against the rub rail. Strong tape indeed helps a lot. Then there is tip and roll on the paint. Kind of depends on whether you want the 50 foot job or the nose against the hull job (speaking about viewing distance). Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 8:48 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Boot Stripe Paint My Cal 28-II had the same Chinese red. Drove me crazy. I used the Brightsides paint, but here is the difference: I carefully prepped the surface. Wax and gunk gets in the pores of the gelcoat and the surface appears clean, but it isn't. Wash it down with a 3M scouring pad and TSP. Rinse and scrub again with clear water. Allow to dry. Then swab it down with Interlux solvent 333 using an old rag. You'll need several. Lot'sa stuff will appear on the rag. Also, wear gloves, that stuff will dissolve fingers, I think.... Mask it off with the green tape, or better yet, the black tape that you can get at a professional paint store. Be sure to run your finger over the tape carefully to be sure it doesn't blotch under the tape.

On 2/16/2016 8:38 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > “The 202 is not that bad. Just do things outside, assume you will have > good gloves on, and don't sniff the stuff, it will gag you, make you > dizzy, and kill lots of brain cells.” > > Ahhh, such a feeling. And just think (if you still can), it is not > illegal. > This is an interesting subject--the question of whether and when we should be allowed to play with dangerous things. I've used lots of paint removers, the old methylene chloride kind, even after knowing that the stuff can be carcinogenic. Don't you think I saw the light while waiting for results from the prostate biopsies? But I still use the stuff.... As a kid I'd work on the car's drum brakes. Bang the drum off, and inside there was always accumulated dust that contained asbestos fibers. Take a deep breath and blow hard to get rid of the stuff. Geez. Maybe we should be protected from ourselves. And I still use various solvents, and even wearing gloves doesn't always prevent exposure, mostly because sometimes we just need the solvent to do the job. I think the key is education and information. In my old age I still don't avoid exposure completely, but I do try to limit it it sensible ways and to diminish contact. Why? Because I've read about the adverse effects of exposure. And then I think that we go sailing, and there's an inherently dangerous undertaking for you. But I know that, and do my calculations, and I still go sailing anyway. Chris Campbell > >