RE: Broken booms and Ballengers

Hmm. So here you are discussing spars, spreaders, boom and Ballengers. Wednesday, for you Pac-Coasters (SF-MRY), if you recall, it was a bit bumpy out there. My friend was coming down from SF-Half Moon Bay and into Mry to pick me up for a sail to Morro Bay. Wednesday night was rough, it seems. When I went to the dock to catch lines for him, I saw a pile of hardware and software lying on the deck of his 63' ketch. There was a pile of mainsail, aluminum, sheets and halyards all piled up. His boom was bent/broken about 1/3 out from the mast at a 30 degree angle. Shouldn't they be straight? He said he saw some 20' sea and 30kt blows. His jibe preventer stiffened, the moment arm out past that exceeded the limit and BOOM! So now he's working with Ballengers to get a new boom made up..and get all of his rigging re-done. He said.yep.sailing.you go from port to port and stop long enough to fix the stuff that broke en route. He's taking it quite well, actually. I learned how to disassemble a bloom. We'll continue to Morro Bay in May. ..tom From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 3:29 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) Hello Ed and Helen. I had Ballenger Spars fabricate aluminum spreaders for Holiday. They did beautiful work.. http://www.ballengerspars.com/. Mike Robinson S/V Eleanor May (916) 705-3200 our blog: http://www.sailblogs.com/member/eleanormay/ _____ To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:00:18 -0700 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) Hi Guys Caliente is in the process of replacing original Wood spreaders all 4 ...we are doing this in the slip ... So far 1) made one set of temporary lower spreaders (nearly 3 inches too short) from another cal36, which indicates lack of uniformity. 2) made 2nd set correct size 3) using originals for templates to make final set. We have Fabricated 1. Aluminum Tip on lower port spreader (last race season) and might make all Aluminum.replacements, but.. slip mate has E-35 with double spreader Mast...that has Stainless Steel spreader tips; on double Spreaders the lowers have two grooves and single groove on top spreaders...Also they have a Horseshoe piece that locks in the top upper shroud...of stainless steel. Sooo.... If any one has upgraded to ALUMINUM spreaders and stlll have Double Tips (or single) Laying Around please contact me ... thanks or a referral to someone who has them or can fabricate them...Thanks Cal boaters ..Edward CALIENTE 1966 Jensen 36 #60 e.… [at] gmail.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Buzz Ballenger is a great guy and a wealth of knowledge and experience. He supplied a mast, boom and rigging for my Santa Cruz 27 PHYLLIS SWIFT after her dismasting in the 1989 SC 27 Nationals on the Berkeley Circle when the starboard lower turnbuckle failed. Buzz also gave me great service and a good deal when I replaced the rigging and spreader bar in 2012 on YELLOW JACK USA57313. A preventer rigged forward is not really necessary on a sailboat under 30" Over 30' it's benefits are often overshadowed by conditions that can cause broken spars in the event of a broach or jibe. Steering downwind in heavy conditions require constant concentration and experience and can be a challenge particularly at night. Reduce sail to reduce pressure on the rig in heavy displacement boats that are limited to hull speed and unable to surf. An expensive lesson off the California coast, no injuries to the crew however! My Best, Mike Farrell From: "'TomDressler' tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; 'Michael Robinson' <mi… [at] hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE: Broken booms and Ballengers <!-- .yiv8260907678ygrp-photo-title{clear:both;font-size:smaller;height:15px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;width:75px;} div.yiv8260907678ygrp-photo{background-position:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-color:white;border:1px solid black;height:62px;width:62px;} div.yiv8260907678photo-title a, div.yiv8260907678photo-title a:active, div.yiv8260907678photo-title a:hover, div.yiv8260907678photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv8260907678attach-table div.yiv8260907678attach-row {clear:both;} div.yiv8260907678attach-table div.yiv8260907678attach-row div {float:left;} p {clear:both;padding:15px 0 3px 0;overflow:hidden;} div.yiv8260907678ygrp-file {width:30px;} div.yiv8260907678attach-table 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night was rough, it seems.When I went to the dock to catch lines for him, I saw a pile of hardware and software lying on the deck of his 63’ ketch.There was a pile of mainsail, aluminum, sheets and halyards all piled up.His boom was bent/broken about 1/3 out from the mast at a 30 degree angle.Shouldn’t they be straight?He said he saw some 20’ sea and 30kt blows.His jibe preventer stiffened, the moment arm out past that exceeded the limit and BOOM!So now he’s working with Ballengers to get a new boom made up..and get all of his rigging re-done.He said…yep…sailing…you go from port to port and stop long enough to fix the stuff that broke en route.He’s taking it quite well, actually.I learned how to disassemble a bloom.We’ll continue to Morro Bay in May. ..tom From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 3:29 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) Hello Ed and Helen. I had Ballenger Spars fabricate aluminum spreaders for Holiday. They did beautiful work.. http://www.ballengerspars.com/. Mike RobinsonS/V Eleanor May(916) 705-3200 our blog:http://www.sailblogs.com/member/eleanormay/ To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:00:18 -0700 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) Hi Guys Caliente is in the process of replacing original Wood spreaders all 4 ...we are doing this in the slip ... So far 1) made one set of temporary lower spreaders (nearly 3 inches too short) from another cal36, which indicates lack of uniformity. 2) made 2nd set correct size 3) using originals for templates to make final set. We have Fabricated 1. Aluminum Tip on lower port spreader (last race season) and might make all Aluminum.replacements, but..slip mate has E-35 with double spreader Mast...that has Stainless Steel spreader tips; on double Spreaders the lowers have two groovesand single groove on top spreaders...Also they have a Horseshoe piece that locks in the top uppershroud...of stainless steel. Sooo.... If any one has upgraded to ALUMINUM spreaders and stlll have Double Tips (or single) Laying Around please contact me ...thanks or a referral to someone who has them or can fabricate them...Thanks Cal boaters ..Edward CALIENTE 1966 Jensen 36 #60 e.… [at] gmail.com | | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com |

Right. No injuries to crew. The preventer is in place. This boat is 63' loa and the boom is 16'-3"! Oh, did i mention it's a ferrocement? Big loads on that baby indeed! Ballenger will build him a new boom and he will get other rigging replaced at the same time. Thanks for the feedback. ....tom > On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:44 AM, mike farrell ve… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Buzz Ballenger is a great guy and a wealth of knowledge and experience. He supplied a mast, boom and rigging for my Santa Cruz 27 PHYLLIS SWIFT after her dismasting in the 1989 SC 27 Nationals on the Berkeley Circle when the starboard lower turnbuckle failed. Buzz also gave me great service and a good deal when I replaced the rigging and spreader bar in 2012 on YELLOW JACK USA57313. > A preventer rigged forward is not really necessary on a sailboat under 30" Over 30' it's benefits are often overshadowed by conditions that can cause broken spars in the event of a broach or jibe. Steering downwind in heavy conditions require constant concentration and experience and can be a challenge particularly at night. Reduce sail to reduce pressure on the rig in heavy displacement boats that are limited to hull speed and unable to surf. > An expensive lesson off the California coast, no injuries to the crew however! > My Best, Mike Farrell > > > From: "'TomDressler' tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; 'Michael Robinson' <mi… [at] hotmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:18 AM > Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE: Broken booms and Ballengers > > > > Hmm. > So here you are discussing spars, spreaders, boom and Ballengers. > Wednesday, for you Pac-Coasters (SF-MRY), if you recall, it was a bit bumpy out there. > My friend was coming down from SF-Half Moon Bay and into Mry to pick me up for a sail to Morro Bay. > Wednesday night was rough, it seems. > When I went to the dock to catch lines for him, I saw a pile of hardware and software lying on the deck of his 63’ ketch. > There was a pile of mainsail, aluminum, sheets and halyards all piled up. > His boom was bent/broken about 1/3 out from the mast at a 30 degree angle. > Shouldn’t they be straight? > He said he saw some 20’ sea and 30kt blows. > His jibe preventer stiffened, the moment arm out past that exceeded the limit and BOOM! > So now he’s working with Ballengers to get a new boom made up..and get all of his rigging re-done. > He said…yep…sailing…you go from port to port and stop long enough to fix the stuff that broke en route. > He’s taking it quite well, actually. > I learned how to disassemble a bloom. > We’ll continue to Morro Bay in May. > > ..tom > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 3:29 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) > > > Hello Ed and Helen. I had Ballenger Spars fabricate aluminum spreaders for Holiday. They did beautiful work.. > > http://www.ballengerspars.com/. > > > > Mike Robinson > S/V Eleanor May > (916) 705-3200 > > our blog: > http://www.sailblogs.com/member/eleanormay/ > > > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:00:18 -0700 > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) > > > Hi Guys Caliente is in the process of replacing original Wood spreaders all 4 ...we are doing this in the slip ... > So far 1) made one set of temporary lower spreaders (nearly 3 inches too short) from another cal36, which indicates lack of uniformity. > 2) made 2nd set correct size > 3) using originals for templates to make final set. > We have Fabricated 1. Aluminum Tip on lower port spreader (last race season) and might make all Aluminum.replacements, but.. > slip mate has E-35 with double spreader Mast...that has Stainless Steel spreader tips; on double Spreaders the lowers have two grooves > and single groove on top spreaders...Also they have a Horseshoe piece that locks in the top upper > shroud...of stainless steel. > Sooo.... If any one has upgraded to ALUMINUM spreaders and stlll have Double Tips (or single) Laying Around please contact me ... > thanks or a referral to someone who has them or can fabricate them...Thanks Cal boaters ..Edward CALIENTE 1966 Jensen 36 #60 > e.… [at] gmail.com > > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > > > > >

Same length boom as a cal 36. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:50 PM, TomDressler tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Right. No injuries to crew.The preventer is in place. This boat is 63' loa and the boom is 16'-3"!Oh, did i mention it's a ferrocement?Big loads on that baby indeed!Ballenger will build him a new boom and he will get other rigging replaced at the same time.Thanks for the feedback. ....tom On Mar 27, 2016, at 10:44 AM, mike farrell ve… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Buzz Ballenger is a great guy and a wealth of knowledge and experience. He supplied a mast, boom and rigging for my Santa Cruz 27 PHYLLIS SWIFT after her dismasting in the 1989 SC 27 Nationals on the Berkeley Circle when the starboard lower turnbuckle failed. Buzz also gave me great service and a good deal when I replaced the rigging and spreader bar in 2012 on YELLOW JACK USA57313. A preventer rigged forward is not really necessary on a sailboat under 30" Over 30' it's benefits are often overshadowed by conditions that can cause broken spars in the event of a broach or jibe. Steering downwind in heavy conditions require constant concentration and experience and can be a challenge particularly at night. Reduce sail to reduce pressure on the rig in heavy displacement boats that are limited to hull speed and unable to surf. An expensive lesson off the California coast, no injuries to the crew however! My Best, Mike Farrell From: "'TomDressler' tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; 'Michael Robinson' <mi… [at] hotmail.com> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 11:18 AM Subject: [Cal_Boats] RE: Broken booms and Ballengers Hmm.So here you are discussing spars, spreaders, boom and Ballengers.Wednesday, for you Pac-Coasters (SF-MRY), if you recall, it was a bit bumpy out there.My friend was coming down from SF-Half Moon Bay and into Mry to pick me up for a sail to Morro Bay.Wednesday night was rough, it seems.When I went to the dock to catch lines for him, I saw a pile of hardware and software lying on the deck of his 63’ ketch.There was a pile of mainsail, aluminum, sheets and halyards all piled up.His boom was bent/broken about 1/3 out from the mast at a 30 degree angle.Shouldn’t they be straight?He said he saw some 20’ sea and 30kt blows.His jibe preventer stiffened, the moment arm out past that exceeded the limit and BOOM!So now he’s working with Ballengers to get a new boom made up..and get all of his rigging re-done.He said…yep…sailing…you go from port to port and stop long enough to fix the stuff that broke en route.He’s taking it quite well, actually.I learned how to disassemble a bloom.We’ll continue to Morro Bay in May. ..tom From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 3:29 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) Hello Ed and Helen. I had Ballenger Spars fabricate aluminum spreaders for Holiday. They did beautiful work.. http://www.ballengerspars.com/. Mike RobinsonS/V Eleanor May(916) 705-3200 our blog:http://www.sailblogs.com/member/eleanormay/ To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 14:00:18 -0700 Subject: [Cal_Boats] Wooden Spreaders; Tips Wanted (double Spreader mast) Hi Guys Caliente is in the process of replacing original Wood spreaders all 4 ...we are doing this in the slip ... So far 1) made one set of temporary lower spreaders (nearly 3 inches too short) from another cal36, which indicates lack of uniformity. 2) made 2nd set correct size 3) using originals for templates to make final set. We have Fabricated 1. Aluminum Tip on lower port spreader (last race season) and might make all Aluminum.replacements, but..slip mate has E-35 with double spreader Mast...that has Stainless Steel spreader tips; on double Spreaders the lowers have two groovesand single groove on top spreaders...Also they have a Horseshoe piece that locks in the top uppershroud...of stainless steel. Sooo.... If any one has upgraded to ALUMINUM spreaders and stlll have Double Tips (or single) Laying Around please contact me ...thanks or a referral to someone who has them or can fabricate them...Thanks Cal boaters ..Edward CALIENTE 1966 Jensen 36 #60 e.… [at] gmail.com | | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com |