Cal 2-29 rub rails

This was posted on the latest Good Old Boat Newsletter. I know someone here has this information (Charlie?) and hope that someone will contact April and help her out with the details. = = = = = = Rubrails for a Cal 2-29 Do you know who would carry rubrails for a 1976 Cal 2-29? April Cortese ap… [at] gmail.com = = = = = = Alfred Poor 1973 Tartan 34C #288 "Jambalaya"

Response sent to April. (D&R Marine) Chris B Cal 20, WeeHopeIII From: Alfred Poor <ap… [at] bellatlantic.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 5:44:51 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails This was posted on the latest Good Old Boat Newsletter. I know someone here has this information (Charlie?) and hope that someone will contact April and help her out with the details. = = = = = = Rubrails for a Cal 2-29 Do you know who would carry rubrails for a 1976 Cal 2-29? April Cortese april.cortese@ gmail.com = = = = = = Alfred Poor 1973 Tartan 34C #288 “Jambalaya”

To amplify on Chris's note (Hi, Chris, Alfred, and April.): On the East Coast we have Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine (Assonet, MA). There is a form factor of rub rail specifically for CALs. http://www.drmarine.com/categories.asp Out West in CA, we have Seals Spars with Steve Seals. http://www.sealsspars.com/gunnelcatalog.html I've dealt with both of them for various items, and have been satisfied. There are a few other sources that would take some extra digging on my part. Only know them by name. Hope this Helps Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Barszcz Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:20 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails Response sent to April. (D&R Marine) Chris B Cal 20, WeeHopeIII From: Alfred Poor <ap… [at] bellatlantic.net> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 5:44:51 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails This was posted on the latest Good Old Boat Newsletter. I know someone here has this information (Charlie?) and hope that someone will contact April and help her out with the details. = = = = = = Rubrails for a Cal 2-29 Do you know who would carry rubrails for a 1976 Cal 2-29? April Cortese april.cortese@ gmail.com<mailto:ap… [at] gmail.com> = = = = = = Alfred Poor 1973 Tartan 34C #288 "Jambalaya"

Hi Folks, If this Cal 20 was closer to Rhode Island, I'd go and fetch it for the price they are asking for it! http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/1571389053.html and for the Cal 25 owners, there's a person in Tiverton RI who is parting out his 25 on Craigslist too. :( Best regards to all, Chris B Cal20 WeeHope III

Chris, that sounds like our Cal 24 when it was advertised, but for the price I also got a good(?) trailer (grinning). Now I am working to strip the interior of the boat as we have removed ALL of the interior woodwork, and will need to replace everything. Good lessons in boat construction, but there are also reasons the boat is so cheap I am imagining. Martin

Hey Chris, The last Cal 20 Hull 61 COYOTE ex Caprice was given to me for $!0. That was the end of August.,2009 The last 3 days I have driven to Berkeley from S. San Francisco where I live (42 mile round trip + tolls) I have been grinding surfacing putty $33 a quart x 3 quarts so far to fair a keel that was in the water in a hot harbor for 10 years. I am still working on the G.. D... boat I plan to race 61 in the Vallejo Race with a hellaciousley large A chute. Why?.... I don't really know. I have redone 7 Cal 20's in the last 18 months 2 went to boy scouts 2 went to friends ( one actually paid me $1600 and I took hull 471 ARGO back) Please believe me when I tell you a restored Cal 20 is worth $10, 000 in time, costs parts etc. My wife doesn't think I am crazy--- SHE KNOWS I AM CRAZY. However, I can remember when SF Bay Area harbors were empty on Race Days . We had 40-60 boats out. We had World Class Sailors on the line. John Kosteki, Dave Ulmann, Ted Rust and others. Now young sailors want the HOT BOATS. Rambler Hull 1114 beat a one design 35 by 2 seconds (on Handicap) in the summer series. My whole boat did not cost as much as his leward travller line. Never give in, My Best , Mike Farrell Coyote #61 Rambler #!!!4 ps. Never wish---you might just get what you wish for! From: Chris Barszcz <we… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 6:02:12 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hi Folks, If this Cal 20 was closer to Rhode Island, I'd go and fetch it for the price they are asking for it! http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/1571389053.html and for the Cal 25 owners, there's a person in Tiverton RI who is parting out his 25 on Craigslist too. :( Best regards to all, Chris B Cal20 WeeHope III

I just installed a new rubrail from Seals on my cal 29 and was happy, makes a huge difference on the appearance. GT --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> wrote: From: Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>, "ap… [at] gmail.com" <ap… [at] gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 3:37 PM To amplify on Chris's note (Hi, Chris, Alfred, and April.): On the East Coast we have Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine (Assonet, MA). There is a form factor of rub rail specifically for CALs. http://www.drmarine .com/categories. asp Out West in CA, we have Seals Spars with Steve Seals. http://www.sealsspa rs.com/gunnelcat alog.html I've dealt with both of them for various items, and have been satisfied. There are a few other sources that would take some extra digging on my part. Only know them by name. Hope this Helps Cheers Charlie From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_ Boats@yahoogroup s.com] On Behalf Of Chris Barszcz Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 6:20 PM To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails Response sent to April. (D&R Marine) Chris B Cal 20, WeeHopeIII From: Alfred Poor <apoor@bellatlantic. net> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 5:44:51 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails This was posted on the latest Good Old Boat Newsletter. I know someone here has this information (Charlie?) and hope that someone will contact April and help her out with the details. = = = = = = Rubrails for a Cal 2-29 Do you know who would carry rubrails for a 1976 Cal 2-29? April Cortese april.cortese@ gmail.com = = = = = = Alfred Poor 1973 Tartan 34C #288 “Jambalaya”

About $400 for OEM runner for a 29/2-29 from Seal's - http://www.sealsspars.com/gunnelcatalog.html --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, glen thorpe <glenhove2@...> wrote: > > I just installed a new rubrail from Seals on my cal 29 and was happy, makes a huge difference on the appearance. >  > GT >

Chris Barszcz wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > If this Cal 20 was closer to Rhode Island, I'd go and fetch it for the > price they are asking for it! > > http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/boa/1571389053.html The pet folks have these abandoned-pet projects. We need some organization like that to rescue cheap fiberglass boats and get them into the hands of new sailors. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, /Martha C/ >

Martin Klos wrote: > Chris, > that sounds like our Cal 24 when it was advertised, but for the price I also got a good(?) trailer (grinning). Now I am working to strip the interior of the boat as we have removed ALL of the interior woodwork, and will need to replace everything. Good lessons in boat construction, but there are also reasons the boat is so cheap I am imagining. > It's true that it's rare to get something for free, since you've almost always got to invest something (money or muscle). Nothing wrong with that. Owning boats has taught me persistence and the rewards of the investment of work. Chris Campbell

A wise person once told me that there is no such thing as a free boat. I got my boat for free, $150,000 ago. Allen On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 6:43 AM, Chris Campbell < cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > > > Martin Klos wrote: > > Chris, > > that sounds like our Cal 24 when it was advertised, but for the price I > also got a good(?) trailer (grinning). Now I am working to strip the > interior of the boat as we have removed ALL of the interior woodwork, and > will need to replace everything. Good lessons in boat construction, but > there are also reasons the boat is so cheap I am imagining. > > > > It's true that it's rare to get something for free, since you've almost > always got to invest something (money or muscle). Nothing wrong with > that. Owning boats has taught me persistence and the rewards of the > investment of work. > > Chris Campbell > > >

if you have to paint it or feed it it is not a gift. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:49:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 A wise person once told me that there is no such thing as a free boat. I got my boat for free, $150,000 ago. Allen

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > A wise person once told me that there is no such thing as a free boat. > I got my boat for free, $150,000 ago. Yeah, but how much is the fun worth? When the enhancement of life is factored in, I'm making a big profit on my boats. Chris Campbell

I second that. I paid about the same for my 34 rub rail from Seals. Great service and the product is awesome. Danny. --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, "John Caldwell" <jacaldwell@...> wrote: > > About $400 for OEM runner for a 29/2-29 from Seal's - http://www.sealsspars.com/gunnelcatalog.html > > > > --- In Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, glen thorpe <glenhove2@> wrote: > > > > I just installed a new rubrail from Seals on my cal 29 and was happy, makes a huge difference on the appearance. > >  > > GT > > >

It was an inheritance, not a gift. I buy paint and epoxy by the gallon. Painting the mast is next. I better lose some weight before I do that or I am going to be seriously worn out. :-) Allen On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:05 AM, r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> wrote: > > > if you have to paint it or feed it it is not a gift. > Reggie > > ------------------------------ > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > From: al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com > Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:49:51 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 > > > A wise person once told me that there is no such thing as a free boat. I > got my boat for free, $150,000 ago. > > Allen > > > > > >

Well, half of that is slip fees so it really isn't that bad. Another wise person told me never add up what you have spent on a boat or how much it costs per trip. Allen On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Chris Campbell < cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: > > > Allen Edwards wrote: > > A wise person once told me that there is no such thing as a free boat. I > got my boat for free, $150,000 ago. > > > Yeah, but how much is the fun worth? When the enhancement of life is > factored in, I'm making a big profit on my boats. > > Chris Campbell > > >

Thats a project worth exploring. Ive bought several boats on the cheap up north with the best deal being a CS-22 complete with 5 solid sails, 8 hp evinrude, dual axle trailer (with plates and roadworthy) only in need of a month of cleanup and minor repairs and its good to go as a started boat. The motor went to a friend, the tailer I kept and the boat went to a third friend to get him and his kids on the docks at least for the summer. No need to sail it the first year, just use it as a cottage getaway then take some lessons as a family and there off to the races. My cost was $1.00 CDN as it was an estate sale. CS-22 are the perfect starter vessel as they are extended trailerable day sailors with a 5ft swing keel. Competatively they can hold there own against there Tanzer cousins and there used to be a very large fleet out of Toronto years back. Will be interesting to see how the CAL 20 compares when its gets finished as all of the CS's I sold off to friends. The CAL-20 I picked up for 300 bucks and its gonna cost me a bundle as its a project boat. Here where Im wintering over and getting somewhat bored, scowered some of the smaller marina's and yards and found a CAL-30 with a really good set of sails, in need of a bottom job, new running rigging and refastening of all deck mounted hardware. Engine was solid. Sold price with 3KUS. There are lots of good old boats out there if your willing to spend the time looking for them. Its something I personally enjoy. Just have not figured out a way yet to make it pay for itself. So far Im breaking even on what Ive bought and sold, not including of course the 29. Thats a keeper and will get pampered at some point. A US based charitable organization of some sort would be something worth exploring. I say US as it very difficult post 9-11 to setup charitable organizations in the north now. As a lawyer Chris this may be something that you may wish to explore, certainly I would be available to assist as directed. Btw, read the GOB article on that fine CAL-25, lad who owns it is also a Chris. Coincidence? This is getting weird in a good way of course. /ch

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > > Another wise person told me never add up what you have spent on a boat > or how much it costs per trip. Actually, this is a valuable exercise. Quite a few years ago I was sailing with my brother and he asked, "have you calculated the cost per trip of owning this boat?" I did a quick mental calculation using marina slip and winter storage charges only and the results were not pretty. So what did I do? There are two options: reduce costs or increase usage. The marina isn't soft-hearted so I started sailing more. My Cal 20 is closer to my home and cheaper to support anyway, but I sail almost every day I'm in town while she's in the water. Gotta get my money's worth.... Chris Campbell

chris123 wrote: > > > Btw, read the GOB article on that fine CAL-25, lad who owns it is also > a Chris. Coincidence? This is getting weird in a good way of course. The lesson is that if you want your kid to be a sailor, name him or her Chris. Chris Campbell

When I got Shpritz one of the well to do boat brokers at Anacappa Marine said to me: "The most expensive boat you can get may be one that someone gives you for free". I said uh-huh.I hadn't a clue what she meant, but two months later, still there at the boat yard, I began to comprehend what she meant. Then they taught me what what one "boat buck" was. A thou. Jerry --- On Wed, 2/3/10, Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> wrote: From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] free boat To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 10:02 AM It was an inheritance, not a gift. I buy paint and epoxy by the gallon. Painting the mast is next. I better lose some weight before I do that or I am going to be seriously worn out. :-) Allen On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:05 AM, r good <my1972ih@hotmail. com> wrote: if you have to paint it or feed it it is not a gift. Reggie To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com From: allen.edwards@ PaloAltoPhoto. com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 07:49:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 A wise person once told me that there is no such thing as a free boat. I got my boat for free, $150,000 ago. Allen

Now that _is_ funny...:) /ch

My son's name is Chris -- Christopher Robert (middle name after my Dad) -- and he hates going out on the boat?! His problem is seasickness which he inherited from his mother. I have never known a Dutton to get seasick until Chris. Sorry to put a pinch on the "Chris" and sailing theory. I still have hope. His mother overcame her seasickness and became quite the racing crew. Perhaps as he grows older his system will adjust? I am keeping my fingers crossed. Until then, we camp a lot! Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 11:08:01 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 chris123 wrote: > > > >>Btw, read the GOB article on that fine CAL-25, lad who owns it is also >a Chris. Coincidence? This is getting weird in a good way of course. > The lesson is that if you want your kid to be a sailor, name him or her Chris. Chris Campbell

Sea Sickness... I have never had the misfortune. I attribute it to being a roller-coaster junkie when I was a kid. Even below, the motion has no effect on my equilibrium or nausea.

Its just a standard joke around these parts.Just give him time. I used to get sick in the car as a kid, then started skiing quite young. Dont know if it had anything to do with it but the car sickness went away. So far, knock on wood Ive almost tossed my cookies once in a blow having to go below decks to get charts. What got me going was the violent pitching and the deisel fumes. yakka's TImed myself once back on deck, Took almost two hours to feel good again. Strange. Im sure however there is a cookie tossing even comming up in the near future or at somepoint. Its a right of passage. Best of luck /ch

Only take him sailing with his friends, start with short trips on calm days, make it a treat. Advice my dad gave me that I did not follow and now my son will not sail with me. Allen On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Donald Dutton <dn… [at] sbcglobal.net>wrote: > > > My son's name is Chris -- Christopher Robert (middle name after my Dad) -- > and he hates going out on the boat?! His problem is seasickness which he > inherited from his mother. I have never known a Dutton to get seasick until > Chris. > > Sorry to put a pinch on the "Chris" and sailing theory. I still have > hope. His mother overcame her seasickness and became quite the racing > crew. Perhaps as he grows older his system will adjust? I am keeping my > fingers crossed. Until then, we camp a lot! > > Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" > > "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you > didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail > away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. > Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> > > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Wed, February 3, 2010 11:08:01 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 > > > > chris123 wrote: > > > > Btw, read the GOB article on that fine CAL-25, lad who owns it is also a > Chris. Coincidence? This is getting weird in a good way of course. > > > The lesson is that if you want your kid to be a sailor, name him or her > Chris. > > Chris Campbell > > >

My son never got over it. He is 27 now. One thing not to do is to hide your head under your jacket. Don't let him go below at all. They did a test for some magazine where they tested covered liferafts. All professional sailors, all got sick in any covered raft. You need to encourage people to look around at the land. Another bit of trivia. If you go sailing and then stand on land, people who do not get seasick feel like the land is moving. People who get sea sick do not get that feeling. At least that is my experience. Allen On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:09 AM, chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com>wrote: > > > Its just a standard joke around these parts.Just give him time. > > I used to get sick in the car as a kid, then started skiing quite young. > Dont know if it had anything to do with it but the car sickness went away. > So far, knock on wood Ive almost tossed my cookies once in a blow having to > go below decks to get charts. What got me going was the violent pitching and > the deisel fumes. yakka's TImed myself once back on deck, Took almost two > hours to feel good again. Strange. Im sure however there is a cookie tossing > even comming up in the near future or at somepoint. Its a right of passage. > > Best of luck > > /ch > > >

Good advice! Social activity is great for taking one's mind off of ill effects. Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 8:12:15 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Only take him sailing with his friends, start with short trips on calm days, make it a treat. Advice my dad gave me that I did not follow and now my son will not sail with me. Allen On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Donald Dutton <dnlddttn@sbcglobal. net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >My son's name is Chris -- Christopher Robert (middle name after my Dad) -- and he hates going out on the boat?! His problem is seasickness which he inherited from his mother. I have never known a Dutton to get seasick until Chris. > >Sorry to put a pinch on the "Chris" and sailing theory. I still have hope. His mother overcame her seasickness and became quite the racing crew. Perhaps as he grows older his system will adjust? I am keeping my fingers crossed. Until then, we camp a lot! > > Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" > > >"Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off > the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain > > >> > > >From: Chris Campbell <clcampbell@charteri nternet.com> > >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 11:08:01 AM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal > 20 > > > > > > >> > >> > > >chris123 wrote: > >>> >> >> >>>>Btw, read the GOB article on that fine CAL-25, lad who owns it is also >>a Chris. Coincidence? This is getting weird in a good way of course. >> >>The lesson is that if you want your kid to be a sailor, name him or her >Chris. > >>Chris Campbell > >

That is funny. I never get seasick and have never in 45 years of sailing. But anytime I go out for an extended period without touching land. When I do finally get on land I am sick as hell. Rick Lobb Cal 2-29 "Rebecca Shea" Bellingham, WA From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:46 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 My son never got over it. He is 27 now. One thing not to do is to hide your head under your jacket. Don't let him go below at all. They did a test for some magazine where they tested covered liferafts. All professional sailors, all got sick in any covered raft. You need to encourage people to look around at the land. Another bit of trivia. If you go sailing and then stand on land, people who do not get seasick feel like the land is moving. People who get sea sick do not get that feeling. At least that is my experience. Allen On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:09 AM, chris123 <ch… [at] gmail.com> wrote: Its just a standard joke around these parts.Just give him time. I used to get sick in the car as a kid, then started skiing quite young. Dont know if it had anything to do with it but the car sickness went away. So far, knock on wood Ive almost tossed my cookies once in a blow having to go below decks to get charts. What got me going was the violent pitching and the deisel fumes. yakka's TImed myself once back on deck, Took almost two hours to feel good again. Strange. Im sure however there is a cookie tossing even comming up in the near future or at somepoint. Its a right of passage. Best of luck /ch

Donald Dutton wrote: > > > My son's name is Chris -- Christopher Robert (middle name after my > Dad) -- and he hates going out on the boat?! His problem is > seasickness which he inherited from his mother. I have never known a > Dutton to get seasick until Chris. > > Sorry to put a pinch on the "Chris" and sailing theory. I still have > hope. His mother overcame her seasickness and became quite the racing > crew. Perhaps as he grows older his system will adjust? I'm a big believer in the Scopalomine patch, although I realize that the subject of mal de mer remedies is likely to generate almost as many posts as a discussion of peeing. If you try that remedy, just remember to *WASH HANDS IMMEDIATELY AFTER APPLYING THE PATCH*. Do not ask how I know because it is embarrassing. My theory is that the patch works mostly on the brain in a placebo fashion, but if it works, I don't care how. By the way, scopalomine is supposed to have an adverse effect on peeing-impaired folks like me, but it doesn't affect me in that way, luckily. Chris Campbell

Michael D wrote: > > > Sea Sickness... I have never had the misfortune. I attribute it to > being a roller-coaster junkie when I was a kid. Even below, the > motion has no effect on my equilibrium or nausea. We have one guy on the schooner crew who operates happily below in big seas. He'll go down to the nav station, or do engine checks, or just stay out of the weather and socialize, all while the rest of us are keeping eyes glued to the horizon on deck, no matter how wet and cold. And one of the captains went below and cleaned up a big expanse of lost lunch last summer, apparently unaffected. I admire both of them from a safe distance. Chris Campbell > > > >

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > Only take him sailing with his friends, start with short trips on calm > days, make it a treat. Advice my dad gave me that I did not follow > and now my son will not sail with me. There's always the "if dad likes it, it must be boring" phenomenon among kids, too. One of life's big surprises is finding how many of my dad's characteristics I had acquired by the time I turned 40. New ones keep popping up. Luckily, none of us kids were forced to be just like dad or mom, and so we didn't develop fixed attitudes. Now I just grin when I observe myself being like dad. My father had sailed in his youth, bought a Sunfish for us to sail as kids, took us out with a friend who had a Triton once, and mostly stayed out of the way. When my brother and I decided we liked sailing in connection with my summer job, Dad bought a used sailboat to let us be sailors. It's my other boat now, the one I've varnished, done the bottom on, and otherwise maintained every year since. On the other hand, Dad was a hunter (pheasants, deer) but none of his kids picked that up. His ardor for hunting diminished as he got older, unlike his enthusiasm for sailing. He and I sailed together all the time. Let kids develop their own interests, but expose them to ones that you think are valuable so they can at least know about them. Chris Campbell

I have never been seasick, even in 35' seas, and can attest to the return to land movement sensation. After our 6 1/2 day crossing of the Gulf of Mexico (St. Pete, FL to Houston, TX) I had to hold onto the stall walls on land to pee -- otherwise I would sway and miss! The other sensation was of exaggerated motion in a vehicle. We got into an open Jeep to drive from the marina to my crew's home and could not understand why horns were honking at us -- we thought we were flying. Looked down at the speedo and we were going 25 mph in a 45 zone. After 6 days at 4 - 6 knots 25 mph seemed more like 70! Think I will try the scopolamine patch that Chris recommends. The wrist bands with a bump seemed to work at first -- until he lost it. The company of a friend is made difficult by our 3 hour drive to the marina making any visit to the boat a two day affair. We can, though, stay on the Alameda Channel and in the lee of Treasure Island to make even the famous San Fran Bay blows still be in calm water. All good ideas -- thanks! I'll make a sailor of Chris yet! Donald Dutton, 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution" "Twenty Years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the things you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." ........Mark Twain From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 8:46:15 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 My son never got over it. He is 27 now. One thing not to do is to hide your head under your jacket. Don't let him go below at all. They did a test for some magazine where they tested covered liferafts. All professional sailors, all got sick in any covered raft. You need to encourage people to look around at the land. Another bit of trivia. If you go sailing and then stand on land, people who do not get seasick feel like the land is moving. People who get sea sick do not get that feeling. At least that is my experience. Allen On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:09 AM, chris123 <chris.herrnberger@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >Its just a standard joke around these parts.Just give him time. > >I used to get sick in the car as a kid, then started skiing quite young. Dont know if it had anything to do with it but the car sickness went away. So far, knock on wood Ive almost tossed my cookies once in a blow having to go below decks to get charts. What got me going was the violent pitching and the deisel fumes. yakka's TImed myself once back on deck, Took almost two hours to feel good again. Strange. Im sure however there is a cookie tossing even comming up in the near future or at somepoint. Its a right of passage. > >Best of luck > >/ch > >

Allen Edwards wrote: > > > Another bit of trivia. If you go sailing and then stand on land, > people who do not get seasick feel like the land is moving. People > who get sea sick do not get that feeling. At least that is my experience. I haven't done a lot of extended passage-making, but in articles by world cruisers, several have commented that even after extensive time under sail, they still have a three-day re-acclimatization period. Some barf for three days and some just feel a bit uneasy. Chris Campbell

Rick Lobb wrote: > > > That is funny. I never get seasick and have never in 45 years of > sailing. But anytime I go out for an extended period without touching > land. When I do finally get on land I am sick as hell. > I'm at work, on land, and really sick of working. Does that count? Chris Campbell

I have never gotten seasick in my 6 years of daysailing on inland lakes, on various boats. After being out all day I definitely feel the land move around for the rest of the evening. However, carnival rides, even the little kiddy rides, make me instantly seasick. I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. I think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. They also did some tests on Mythbusters. Carlos

Chris, I do admit, when I return to shore, that I have to hang onto the shower head spigot and/or keep a hand on the wall while shampooing else I get the sensation that I am about to fall over for no reason. That typically goes away by the next morning. --Michael-- From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 12:41:44 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sea Sickness Michael D wrote: > > >Sea Sickness... I have never had the misfortune. I attribute >it to being a roller-coaster junkie when I was a kid. Even below, the >motion has no effect on my equilibrium or nausea. We have one guy on the schooner crew who operates happily below in big seas. He'll go down to the nav station, or do engine checks, or just stay out of the weather and socialize, all while the rest of us are keeping eyes glued to the horizon on deck, no matter how wet and cold. And one of the captains went below and cleaned up a big expanse of lost lunch last summer, apparently unaffected. I admire both of them from a safe distance. Chris Campbell >

Yes it counts!! Me too! I am about 200 yards from my boat where I work. Sometimes it is murder being this close and not going out. But then I remember, no job, no boat. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:58 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Rick Lobb wrote: That is funny. I never get seasick and have never in 45 years of sailing. But anytime I go out for an extended period without touching land. When I do finally get on land I am sick as hell. I'm at work, on land, and really sick of working. Does that count? Chris Campbell

Carlos Alden wrote: > > > I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. I > think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. They also > did some tests on Mythbusters. > Ginger generally has a positive effect for some people. Ginger ale is just a convenient and tasty delivery vehicle for its ingredient. I think somebody was making ginger pills for the same purpose. Chris Campbell

Rick Lobb wrote: > > > Yes it counts!! Me too! I am about 200 yards from my boat where I work. > Well, at least you can go over and pat the boat and talk to her on occasion. WoodenBoat had a nice article on rebuilding a fire-damaged Concordia yawl. The boatbuilder told the owner that he talked to the boat, knowing that the owner must do so, too. I've become a lot more chatty with my boats since reading that, which made my eyes leak a little bit. Chris Campbell > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > I > >

Guys, Just a local note about ginger ale. Here in the Detroit area we have a local brewer who has been making Vernors Ginger Ale since the 40's - had a bottle of it this afternoon with my lunch. We also can purchase Canada Dry Ginger Ale here as well, but Vernors has a better distinctive after taste. Now I have a good reason to stock some on Jade. Later, Nick - Jade - Cal 9.2 - Lake St Clair, MI From: "Chris Campbell" <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:44:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer Carlos Alden wrote: I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. I think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. They also did some tests on Mythbusters. Ginger generally has a positive effect for some people. Ginger ale is just a convenient and tasty delivery vehicle for its ingredient. I think somebody was making ginger pills for the same purpose. Chris Campbell

I never get sick, au contraire, I gain a lot of weigth on passages. I remember after a long storm been with my friends on shore leave and realize that we were rolling in sync while standing.... I tried wristband with a small plastic ball between the tendons for my daughter, and it's work fine, no more seasickness for her!!!!! Strongly recommended!!!!!!

You can buy them at any store that sells vitamins, they do work as long as you take them in advance. --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> wrote: From: Chris Campbell <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 3:44 PM Carlos Alden wrote: I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. I think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. They also did some tests on Mythbusters. Ginger generally has a positive effect for some people. Ginger ale is just a convenient and tasty delivery vehicle for its ingredient. I think somebody was making ginger pills for the same purpose. Chris Campbell

ng… [at] comcast.net wrote: > > > Guys, > > Just a local note about ginger ale. Here in the Detroit area we have > a local brewer who has been making Vernors Ginger Ale since the 40's - > had a bottle of it this afternoon with my lunch. We also can purchase > Canada Dry Ginger Ale here as well, but Vernors has a better > distinctive after taste. > As a fellow Michiganian, I can testify about Vernor's ginger ale. As kids, whenever we had stomach issues, we got to drink Vernor's. But as a northern-lower-Michigan resident, I guess I had forgotten that they were still in operation. They used to have a prominent building in Detroit. I figured they must be part of Pepsi by now. Local drinks made by big companies are like Saab by GM or Jaguar by Ford or Jeep by Chrysler. It's interesting that ginger ales seem to be local things that hang on. When my brother lived in NC, he was able to buy a very spicy ginger ale made in SC. My mother's home town of Birmingham, AL still has Buffalo Rock, which seems to be a sort of cola/ginger drink. I like sampling local ones, like sampling local beers when you travel. I avoid the big commercial fizz-waters for the most part, remembering my physician father's sermons about their deleterious effects and also noting the fact that you're paying mostly for the plastic bottle, the hauling of the stuff in big trucks, and the advertising budgets to convince you to drink sugar water. Chris Campbell > Now I have a good reason to stock some on Jade. > > > > Later, Nick - Jade - Cal 9.2 - Lake St Clair, MI > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Campbell" <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> > To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:44:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer > > > > Carlos Alden wrote: > > > > I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. > I think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. > They also did some tests on Mythbusters. > > > Ginger generally has a positive effect for some people. Ginger ale is > just a convenient and tasty delivery vehicle for its ingredient. I > think somebody was making ginger pills for the same purpose. > > Chris Campbell > > >

Hmmm…. Ginger Ale…….South Carolina……He must be talking about this….. http://blenheimshrine.com/ not for the Crown and Ginger set for sure…. I think the “old #3” is intoxicating without any alcohol content (G) I need to find some and check the Dark and Stormys From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Campbell Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:17 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer ng… [at] comcast.net wrote: Guys, Just a local note about ginger ale. Here in the Detroit area we have a local brewer who has been making Vernors Ginger Ale since the 40's - had a bottle of it this afternoon with my lunch. We also can purchase Canada Dry Ginger Ale here as well, but Vernors has a better distinctive after taste. As a fellow Michiganian, I can testify about Vernor's ginger ale. As kids, whenever we had stomach issues, we got to drink Vernor's. But as a northern-lower-Michigan resident, I guess I had forgotten that they were still in operation. They used to have a prominent building in Detroit. I figured they must be part of Pepsi by now. Local drinks made by big companies are like Saab by GM or Jaguar by Ford or Jeep by Chrysler. It's interesting that ginger ales seem to be local things that hang on. When my brother lived in NC, he was able to buy a very spicy ginger ale made in SC. My mother's home town of Birmingham, AL still has Buffalo Rock, which seems to be a sort of cola/ginger drink. I like sampling local ones, like sampling local beers when you travel. I avoid the big commercial fizz-waters for the most part, remembering my physician father's sermons about their deleterious effects and also noting the fact that you're paying mostly for the plastic bottle, the hauling of the stuff in big trucks, and the advertising budgets to convince you to drink sugar water. Chris Campbell Now I have a good reason to stock some on Jade. Later, Nick - Jade - Cal 9.2 - Lake St Clair, MI From: "Chris Campbell" <mailto:cl… [at] charterinternet.com> <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> To: "Cal Boats" <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:44:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer Carlos Alden wrote: I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. I think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. They also did some tests on Mythbusters. Ginger generally has a positive effect for some people. Ginger ale is just a convenient and tasty delivery vehicle for its ingredient. I think somebody was making ginger pills for the same purpose. Chris Campbell

john raxter wrote: > > > Hmmm…. Ginger Ale…….South Carolina……He must be talking about this….. > > > > http://blenheimshrine.com/ > Wow, that's it. Good stuff. Here's a link to Buffalo Rock from Birmingham, AL: > http://www.buffalorock.com/products/gingerale.html And here's a link to the Vernors page: > http://www.drpeppersnapplegroup.com/brands/vernors/ Wikipedia says that Vernors is the oldest surviving ginger ale: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernors My own inclination is to be skeptical of bigness and sameness (why do people drink big-name "light" beer, anyway?), so these little fragments of local color deserve some attention. Each of the web pages mentions the drink's value in easing stomach distress. But of course, lots of stuff that comes in bottles is taken for medicinal purposes. Chris Campbell > > > not for the Crown and Ginger set for sure…. > > > > I think the “old #3” is intoxicating without any alcohol content (G) > > > > I need to find some and check the Dark and Stormys > > > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Chris Campbell > *Sent:* Friday, February 05, 2010 9:17 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer > > > > > > ng… [at] comcast.net <mailto:ng… [at] comcast.net> wrote: > > Guys, > > Just a local note about ginger ale. Here in the Detroit area we > have a local brewer who has been making Vernors Ginger Ale since > the 40's - had a bottle of it this afternoon with my lunch. We > also can purchase Canada Dry Ginger Ale here as well, but Vernors > has a better distinctive after taste. > > > As a fellow Michiganian, I can testify about Vernor's ginger ale. As > kids, whenever we had stomach issues, we got to drink Vernor's. But as > a northern-lower-Michigan resident, I guess I had forgotten that they > were still in operation. They used to have a prominent building in > Detroit. I figured they must be part of Pepsi by now. Local drinks > made by big companies are like Saab by GM or Jaguar by Ford or Jeep by > Chrysler. > > It's interesting that ginger ales seem to be local things that hang > on. When my brother lived in NC, he was able to buy a very spicy > ginger ale made in SC. My mother's home town of Birmingham, AL still > has Buffalo Rock, which seems to be a sort of cola/ginger drink. I > like sampling local ones, like sampling local beers when you travel. > I avoid the big commercial fizz-waters for the most part, remembering > my physician father's sermons about their deleterious effects and also > noting the fact that you're paying mostly for the plastic bottle, the > hauling of the stuff in big trucks, and the advertising budgets to > convince you to drink sugar water. > > Chris Campbell > > > > Now I have a good reason to stock some on Jade. > > > > Later, Nick - Jade - Cal 9.2 - Lake St Clair, MI > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Campbell" <cl… [at] charterinternet.com> > <mailto:cl… [at] charterinternet.com> > To: "Cal Boats" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2010 4:44:21 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] RE: Mal de mer > > > > Carlos Alden wrote: > > > > I have heard that ginger is extremely effective for seasickness. > I think it was Practical Sailor who ran a test some time ago. > They also did some tests on Mythbusters. > > > Ginger generally has a positive effect for some people. Ginger ale is > just a convenient and tasty delivery vehicle for its ingredient. I > think somebody was making ginger pills for the same purpose. > > Chris Campbell > > > > > >

Greetings everyone! At one time there was a thread about rub rails for the Cal 2-29. I thought I saved them in my Cal boat file, and could not find them. Unfortunately, I was not active on the list last year due to working overnights, and did not have the time to work or sail my boat at all last summer. The good news is that I am now retired and join the ranks of seniors that have young hearts, and Good Ole Boats! Looking to make up from last year! I'm looking for any information that can help me locate rub rails from a reliable manufacture or dealer. If my memory serves me right, there is a dealer lurking somewhere in California. A web site would be helpful if anyone can provide it! I still am catching up on the all the back threads (over 2.6k), and still enjoy reading them! I still go boat hunting at yard, searching for Cal boats that deserve to be saved. I found a Cal T-2 not to far from me that needs some tlc. Kool Beans will be sailing this summer. I've gotten a new to me head sail (Yankee cut, 145%), new main, had my engine rebuilt (Yanmar 1GM10), I also got a symmetrical spinnaker, and a new spinnaker sock. I will hopefully be adding a bow roller, Dutchman self flaking system, safety ladder for the stern, and I made backing plates for all my winches. I also just ordered new aft port lights for both port and starboard from Mark Plastics. In addition, my goal is to get all my instruments working the year. I plan on keeping Kool Beans on a mooring this year, so this will be a new experience for me, and hopefully free up some boating bucks for my projects. I am also making my own mooring buoy! I hope all is well with everyone, as with the coming sailing season here in the Northeast, and around our great country and the world, I hope that everyone will stay in good health and be safe! May everyone enjoy the summer breezes on your boats this year! Thank you all in advance for your help! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Cal 2-29 Rochester, NY

Hi, Jim. Congrats on retirement. Seals has good stuff. But given your location, You could call Rudy Nickerson at D&R. I've had good luck with them ordering many, many Cal 25 (flat deck) rub rails for our Annapolis fleet. I believe the rail cross section for the Cal 25 and Cal 2-29 are the same. Rudy Nickerson D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001 Fx 508 644-3002 For Everybody: some years back, a listee had a batch of aluminum end caps made for 25 to 34 boat models. If you need any, I have them available for postage cost. They are bare. Would need paint, iridite or anodize. Cheers Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails Greetings everyone! At one time there was a thread about rub rails for the Cal 2-29. I thought I saved them in my Cal boat file, and could not find them. Unfortunately, I was not active on the list last year due to working overnights, and did not have the time to work or sail my boat at all last summer. The good news is that I am now retired and join the ranks of seniors that have young hearts, and Good Ole Boats! Looking to make up from last year! I'm looking for any information that can help me locate rub rails from a reliable manufacture or dealer. If my memory serves me right, there is a dealer lurking somewhere in California. A web site would be helpful if anyone can provide it! I still am catching up on the all the back threads (over 2.6k), and still enjoy reading them! I still go boat hunting at yard, searching for Cal boats that deserve to be saved. I found a Cal T-2 not to far from me that needs some tlc. Kool Beans will be sailing this summer. I've gotten a new to me head sail (Yankee cut, 145%), new main, had my engine rebuilt (Yanmar 1GM10), I also got a symmetrical spinnaker, and a new spinnaker sock. I will hopefully be adding a bow roller, Dutchman self flaking system, safety ladder for the stern, and I made backing plates for all my winches. I also just ordered new aft port lights for both port and starboard from Mark Plastics. In addition, my goal is to get all my instruments working the year. I plan on keeping Kool Beans on a mooring this year, so this will be a new experience for me, and hopefully free up some boating bucks for my projects. I am also making my own mooring buoy! I hope all is well with everyone, as with the coming sailing season here in the Northeast, and around our great country and the world, I hope that everyone will stay in good health and be safe! May everyone enjoy the summer breezes on your boats this year! Thank you all in advance for your help! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Cal 2-29 Rochester, NY

hi Charlie, awesome, about the end caps for the rub rails, we need three for our Santa Cruz boats, (2-27 and a cal 31), can you email us the info and we'll send check asap. thanks Helen and Edward On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:53 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, Jim. Congrats on retirement. Seals has good stuff. But given your location, You could call Rudy Nickerson at D&R. I’ve had good luck with them ordering many, many Cal 25 (flat deck) rub rails for our Annapolis fleet. I believe the rail cross section for the Cal 25 and Cal 2-29 are the same. Rudy Nickerson D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001 Fx 508 644-3002 For Everybody: some years back, a listee had a batch of aluminum end caps made for 25 to 34 boat models. If you need any, I have them available for postage cost. They are bare. Would need paint, iridite or anodize. CheersCharlieAnnapolisCal 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails Greetings everyone! At one time there was a thread about rub rails for the Cal 2-29. I thought I saved them in my Cal boat file, and could not find them. Unfortunately, I was not active on the list last year due to working overnights, and did not have the time to work or sail my boat at all last summer. The good news is that I am now retired and join the ranks of seniors that have young hearts, and Good Ole Boats! Looking to make up from last year! I'm looking for any information that can help me locate rub rails from a reliable manufacture or dealer. If my memory serves me right, there is a dealer lurking somewhere in California. A web site would be helpful if anyone can provide it! I still am catching up on the all the back threads (over 2.6k), and still enjoy reading them! I still go boat hunting at yard, searching for Cal boats that deserve to be saved. I found a Cal T-2 not to far from me that needs some tlc. Kool Beans will be sailing this summer. I've gotten a new to me head sail (Yankee cut, 145%), new main, had my engine rebuilt (Yanmar 1GM10), I also got a symmetrical spinnaker, and a new spinnaker sock. I will hopefully be adding a bow roller, Dutchman self flaking system, safety ladder for the stern, and I made backing plates for all my winches. I also just ordered new aft port lights for both port and starboard from Mark Plastics. In addition, my goal is to get all my instruments working the year. I plan on keeping Kool Beans on a mooring this year, so this will be a new experience for me, and hopefully free up some boating bucks for my projects. I am a! lso making my own mooring buoy! I hope all is well with everyone, as with the coming sailing season here in the Northeast, and around our great country and the world, I hope that everyone will stay in good health and be safe! May everyone enjoy the summer breezes on your boats this year! Thank you all in advance for your help! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool BeansCal 2-29Rochester, NY

Hi Charlie! Thank you for the information! This helps a lot! I would need end caps as well. If you can send the info, I will send you a check. I only have one, and it's in bad shape and needs to be replaced! Have a great day everyone! Off to the yard!!! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Cal 2-29 Rochester, NY From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:09 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails hi Charlie, awesome, about the end caps for the rub rails, we need three for our Santa Cruz boats, (2-27 and a cal 31), can you email us the info and we'll send check asap. thanks Helen and Edward On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:53 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, Jim. Congrats on retirement. Seals has good stuff. But given your location, You could call Rudy Nickerson at D&R. I’ve had good luck with them ordering many, many Cal 25 (flat deck) rub rails for our Annapolis fleet. I believe the rail cross section for the Cal 25 and Cal 2-29 are the same. Rudy Nickerson D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001 Fx 508 644-3002 For Everybody: some years back, a listee had a batch of aluminum end caps made for 25 to 34 boat models. If you need any, I have them available for postage cost. They are bare. Would need paint, iridite or anodize. Cheers Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails Greetings everyone! At one time there was a thread about rub rails for the Cal 2-29. I thought I saved them in my Cal boat file, and could not find them. Unfortunately, I was not active on the list last year due to working overnights, and did not have the time to work or sail my boat at all last summer. The good news is that I am now retired and join the ranks of seniors that have young hearts, and Good Ole Boats! Looking to make up from last year! I'm looking for any information that can help me locate rub rails from a reliable manufacture or dealer. If my memory serves me right, there is a dealer lurking somewhere in California. A web site would be helpful if anyone can provide it! I still am catching up on the all the back threads (over 2.6k), and still enjoy reading them! I still go boat hunting at yard, searching for Cal boats that deserve to be saved. I found a Cal T-2 not to far from me that needs some tlc. Kool Beans will be sailing this summer. I've gotten a new to me head sail (Yankee cut, 145%), new main, had my engine rebuilt (Yanmar 1GM10), I also got a symmetrical spinnaker, and a new spinnaker sock. I will hopefully be adding a bow roller, Dutchman self flaking system, safety ladder for the stern, and I made backing plates for all my winches. I also just ordered new aft port lights for both port and starboard from Mark Plastics. In addition, my goal is to get all my instruments working the year. I plan on keeping Kool Beans on a mooring this year, so this will be a new experience for me, and hopefully free up some boating bucks for my projects. I am a! lso making my own mooring buoy! I hope all is well with everyone, as with the coming sailing season here in the Northeast, and around our great country and the world, I hope that everyone will stay in good health and be safe! May everyone enjoy the summer breezes on your boats this year! Thank you all in advance for your help! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool Beans Cal 2-29 Rochester, NY

Chariie, I’m a player for a set of those end caps. Nemesis has a different rub rail, with a hard plastic frame containing the rubber insert. She was on of the last 3-30’s, and was built in Marlboro, NJ. I suspect the plant may have used whatever they had laying around for this trim. It is waaay past it’s sell by date, and needs replacement. Any ideas? Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis (#127) Tacoma On Apr 13, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Kool Beans ne… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > Hi Charlie! > > > Thank you for the information! This helps a lot! I would need end caps as well. If you can send the info, I will send you a check. I only have one, and it's in bad shape and needs to be replaced! > > > > Have a great day everyone! Off to the yard!!! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Jim Ives - Kool Beans > > Cal 2-29 > > Rochester, NY > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net[Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:09 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails > > > > hi Charlie, awesome, about the end caps for the rub rails, we need three for our Santa Cruz boats, (2-27 and a cal 31), can you email us the info and we'll send check asap. thanks Helen and Edward > > > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:53 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, Jim. Congrats on retirement. Seals has good stuff. But given your location, You could call Rudy Nickerson at D&R. I’ve had good luck with them ordering many, many Cal 25 (flat deck) rub rails for our Annapolis fleet. I believe the rail cross section for the Cal 25 and Cal 2-29 are the same. > > Rudy Nickerson > D & R Marine > 14 Water St > Assonet, Ma > 02702 > > Ph 508 644-3001 > Fx 508 644-3002 > > For Everybody: some years back, a listee had a batch of aluminum end caps made for 25 to 34 boat models. If you need any, I have them available for postage cost. They are bare. Would need paint, iridite or anodize. > > Cheers > Charlie > Annapolis > Cal 25 > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:47 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails > > > > > Greetings everyone! > > At one time there was a thread about rub rails for the Cal 2-29. I thought I saved them in my Cal boat file, and could not find them. Unfortunately, I was not active on the list last year due to working overnights, and did not have the time to work or sail my boat at all last summer. The good news is that I am now retired and join the ranks of seniors that have young hearts, and Good Ole Boats! Looking to make up from last year! > > I'm looking for any information that can help me locate rub rails from a reliable manufacture or dealer. If my memory serves me right, there is a dealer lurking somewhere in California. A web site would be helpful if anyone can provide it! > > I still am catching up on the all the back threads (over 2.6k), and still enjoy reading them! I still go boat hunting at yard, searching for Cal boats that deserve to be saved. I found a Cal T-2 not to far from me that needs some tlc. > > Kool Beans will be sailing this summer. I've gotten a new to me head sail (Yankee cut, 145%), new main, had my engine rebuilt (Yanmar 1GM10), I also got a symmetrical spinnaker, and a new spinnaker sock. I will hopefully be adding a bow roller, Dutchman self flaking system, safety ladder for the stern, and I made backing plates for all my winches. I also just ordered new aft port lights for both port and starboard from Mark Plastics. In addition, my goal is to get all my instruments working the year. > > I plan on keeping Kool Beans on a mooring this year, so this will be a new experience for me, and hopefully free up some boating bucks for my projects. I am a! lso making my own mooring buoy! > > I hope all is well with everyone, as with the coming sailing season here in the Northeast, and around our great country and the world, I hope that everyone will stay in good health and be safe! > > May everyone enjoy the summer breezes on your boats this year! Thank you all in advance for your help! > > Cheers! > > Jim Ives - Kool Beans > Cal 2-29 > Rochester, NY > > > > > > > > >

Charlie,I have the ultimate set of end caps for my 29. PO had removed the stock rail and installed a wood one. Bad idea, I was determined to restore the boat, but I had no end caps. Roger Jones sent me his, I think from Swiss Navy, in return for a donation to his sailing foundation. I never met him, but still miss him.David Dobbs, Cal29 411 On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 10:07 AM, "Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Chariie,I’m a player for a set of those end caps. Nemesis has a different rub rail, with a hard plastic frame containing the rubber insert. She was on of the last 3-30’s, and was built in Marlboro, NJ. I suspect the plant may have used whatever they had laying around for this trim. It is waaay past it’s sell by date, and needs replacement. Any ideas?Fred Haas3-30 Nemesis (#127)Tacoma On Apr 13, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Kool Beans ne… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Charlie! Thank you for the information! This helps a lot! I would need end caps as well. If you can send the info, I will send you a check. I only have one, and it's in bad shape and needs to be replaced! Have a great day everyone! Off to the yard!!! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool BeansCal 2-29Rochester, NY From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net[Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:09 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails hi Charlie, awesome, about the end caps for the rub rails, we need three for our Santa Cruz boats, (2-27 and a cal 31), can you email us the info and we'll send check asap. thanks Helen and Edward On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:53 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, Jim. Congrats on retirement. Seals has good stuff. But given your location, You could call Rudy Nickerson at D&R. I’ve had good luck with them ordering many, many Cal 25 (flat deck) rub rails for our Annapolis fleet. I believe the rail cross section for the Cal 25 and Cal 2-29 are the same. Rudy Nickerson D & R Marine 14 Water St Assonet, Ma 02702 Ph 508 644-3001Fx 508 644-3002 For Everybody: some years back, a listee had a batch of aluminum end caps made for 25 to 34 boat models. If you need any, I have them available for postage cost. They are bare. Would need paint, iridite or anodize. CheersCharlieAnnapolisCal 25 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:47 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 2-29 rub rails Greetings everyone! At one time there was a thread about rub rails for the Cal 2-29. I thought I saved them in my Cal boat file, and could not find them. Unfortunately, I was not active on the list last year due to working overnights, and did not have the time to work or sail my boat at all last summer. The good news is that I am now retired and join the ranks of seniors that have young hearts, and Good Ole Boats! Looking to make up from last year! I'm looking for any information that can help me locate rub rails from a reliable manufacture or dealer. If my memory serves me right, there is a dealer lurking somewhere in California. A web site would be helpful if anyone can provide it! I still am catching up on the all the back threads (over 2.6k), and still enjoy reading them! I still go boat hunting at yard, searching for Cal boats that deserve to be saved. I found a Cal T-2 not to far from me that needs some tlc. Kool Beans will be sailing this summer. I've gotten a new to me head sail (Yankee cut, 145%), new main, had my engine rebuilt (Yanmar 1GM10), I also got a symmetrical spinnaker, and a new spinnaker sock. I will hopefully be adding a bow roller, Dutchman self flaking system, safety ladder for the stern, and I made backing plates for all my winches. I also just ordered new aft port lights for both port and starboard from Mark Plastics. In addition, my goal is to get all my instruments working the year. I plan on keeping Kool Beans on a mooring this year, so this will be a new experience for me, and hopefully free up some boating bucks for my projects. I am a! lso making my own mooring buoy! I hope all is well with everyone, as with the coming sailing season here in the Northeast, and around our great country and the world, I hope that everyone will stay in good health and be safe! May everyone enjoy the summer breezes on your boats this year! Thank you all in advance for your help! Cheers! Jim Ives - Kool BeansCal 2-29Rochester, NY

Hi Charlie, We just finished refitting our 1971 Cal 27 Poptop and installed a new rubrail from D&R but don't have any endcaps. How can I get you payment for these to be shipped as soon as you've got time? Thanks!