15 messages2009-12-26 15:53 UTCthrough 2016-05-30 06:02 UTC
Thank you
chris1232009-12-26 15:53 UTC
Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to one and all during this
Christmas season. I've been on this list, mostly lurking and listening
and enjoying the commauderie of seasoned sailors and folks who are
trully into their boats. The level of eexpertise on this list is
amazing. This list, the membership and the level of expertise freely
shared typically with a good sense of humour was the reason that when
it came time to buy me a boat, I ended up with well not one but two
CAL's: a CAL-20 and a CAL-29. Must confess I wanted a 39 or 40 but
could afford it. So settled for 49 feet of CAL.
As it turns out, Im sitting on board the 29 in Rock Hall, way late in
the season to head south and waiting out a storm with water levels at
flood stage in the creek. All very cool as long as your tied to the
dock..;) Several folks on this list I've had a chance to meet in
person. What is always a source of amazement to me is how helpfull
and sincere everyone Ive met has been with respect to helping me out
with the selection of the boats, getting them ready to sail and
learning more about each model. Amazing floks. The same can be said
for this list. As a nubie, just want to thank everyone and hope that
2010 will be an even more interesting and eventfull year of shared
experiences of the sport and vessels that we all enjoy.
Best regards, and with much gratitude.
Chris H
svBayBreeze
CAL3-29
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/ch
RE: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
john raxter2009-12-26 22:54 UTC
Chris,
Not that I have added a extreme amount to your knowledge base. As you move
south this winter - spring, give me a shout as you pass by in the Neuse
River. Oriental is along the ICW, our marina is just off the main river.
There are some transient docks in Oriental, and if you are looking for a
midler (milder than the northern Chesapeake) I can check on available slips
if interested.
See you in the spring?
John
S/V Erinbrook
Oriental NC
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of chris123
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to one and all during this
Christmas season. I've been on this list, mostly lurking and listening
and enjoying the commauderie of seasoned sailors and folks who are
trully into their boats. The level of eexpertise on this list is
amazing. This list, the membership and the level of expertise freely
shared typically with a good sense of humour was the reason that when
it came time to buy me a boat, I ended up with well not one but two
CAL's: a CAL-20 and a CAL-29. Must confess I wanted a 39 or 40 but
could afford it. So settled for 49 feet of CAL.
As it turns out, Im sitting on board the 29 in Rock Hall, way late in
the season to head south and waiting out a storm with water levels at
flood stage in the creek. All very cool as long as your tied to the
dock..;) Several folks on this list I've had a chance to meet in
person. What is always a source of amazement to me is how helpfull
and sincere everyone Ive met has been with respect to helping me out
with the selection of the boats, getting them ready to sail and
learning more about each model. Amazing floks. The same can be said
for this list. As a nubie, just want to thank everyone and hope that
2010 will be an even more interesting and eventfull year of shared
experiences of the sport and vessels that we all enjoy.
Best regards, and with much gratitude.
Chris H
svBayBreeze
CAL3-29
--
/ch
RE: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
Husar, Charlie [USA]2009-12-27 05:38 UTC
Beautiful area, Chris. I've been through there several times and always enjoyed. What the heck. I am offering you John's hospitality. On the other hand, if you break down near Annapolis, I offer you mine.
Happy New Year
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john raxter
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 5:54 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
Chris,
Not that I have added a extreme amount to your knowledge base. As you move south this winter - spring, give me a shout as you pass by in the Neuse River. Oriental is along the ICW, our marina is just off the main river. There are some transient docks in Oriental, and if you are looking for a midler (milder than the northern Chesapeake) I can check on available slips if interested.
See you in the spring?
John
S/V Erinbrook
Oriental NC
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chris123
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:54 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to one and all during this
Christmas season. I've been on this list, mostly lurking and listening
and enjoying the commauderie of seasoned sailors and folks who are
trully into their boats. The level of eexpertise on this list is
amazing. This list, the membership and the level of expertise freely
shared typically with a good sense of humour was the reason that when
it came time to buy me a boat, I ended up with well not one but two
CAL's: a CAL-20 and a CAL-29. Must confess I wanted a 39 or 40 but
could afford it. So settled for 49 feet of CAL.
As it turns out, Im sitting on board the 29 in Rock Hall, way late in
the season to head south and waiting out a storm with water levels at
flood stage in the creek. All very cool as long as your tied to the
dock..;) Several folks on this list I've had a chance to meet in
person. What is always a source of amazement to me is how helpfull
and sincere everyone Ive met has been with respect to helping me out
with the selection of the boats, getting them ready to sail and
learning more about each model. Amazing floks. The same can be said
for this list. As a nubie, just want to thank everyone and hope that
2010 will be an even more interesting and eventfull year of shared
experiences of the sport and vessels that we all enjoy.
Best regards, and with much gratitude.
Chris H
svBayBreeze
CAL3-29
--
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
chris1232009-12-27 13:18 UTC
Thanks for the invitation. While greatly delayed working quickly now to
leave port as soon as all the minor repairs are done, and then waite for the
weather window, to scoot into Norfolk. It can be short as 3 days or as long
as five denpending on the winds. Once in the ICW im not too concerned about
progress or weather, but the bay is a different story. Definitely will touch
based once in Oriental as its one of the places I want to check out as Ive
heard its quit the maritime community.
Best regards and thanks
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
chris1232009-12-27 13:34 UTC
Hi Charlie;
Your one of the folks I wanted to hook up with as I hear you guys are into
winter racing in the area so understand the bay well. Given the time of year
and the need to make miles I trust you understand if I dont swing into
Annapolis as the push to Norfolk will be an effort at 50nm per day with
several bailout harbour planned. Sorry to say but Annapolis at this time is
on the bailout list as its just a half day run from Rock Hall. If you send
me your contact info off list perhaps we can meet up for a beer as I have to
drive into Annopolis to get the dink repaired at Inflatable Experts on
second street.
Your right. This is quite the cute place. Could easily spend the summer
here. Small and traditional with just enough gentrification as to not impact
the local flavour but provide the needed extras....like the cofeeshop with
the big fat internet pipe that the nice gal keeps on all night.as well as
allowing me to use her water supply to fill the shuttle tanks. No water at
the marina but the electricity is on. No internet at dockside at this time
of the year other then 1 megbyte which is slower and more intermittant then
dialup used to be. However the folks at the marina have been more then good
to me and for sure will be left with a nice departure gift once Im ready to
go.
Listened to the marine forcast this AM and it does not look good for the
latter part of the week when all the chores will be done. Basically whats
left to do is install the X-5 system, install the fixed mount VHF, install
the GPS system and connect all three via a simple network, Replace some
lights, friggen steaming light is toast so you know what that means, the
engine checks out, tighten and inspect all fittings, do the final checks and
sea trial, and were good to go. Once the weather is right, two days min is
what I will be waiting for, then the push to Norfolk can start. Les has
offered to come down for two days, so all the needed tasks will get done for
sure. This is one heck of a community that continues to blow me away and one
that I am grateful for.
Best regards....
Chris
RE: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
r good2009-12-27 17:01 UTC
CH
please add us to any list you are making of folks with whom to share your reports on your travels. We are planning to make the same trip, only south to north, in April. We would realy appreciate any info on your experiences in the Chesapeake, places to leave/store our boat, anchorages, places to go, people to see, things to do.
We also are very interested in your experiences in the ICW from Norfolk to Beaufort since we may be doing that section if we cannot find a good weather window for a run on the outside.
Any info on weather resources, anchorages, or anything else would be most appreciated.
Best of luck on your trip!
Reggie
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
From: ch… [at] gmail.com
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 08:18:09 -0500
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] you're Welcome - Thank you
Thanks for the invitation. While greatly delayed working quickly now to leave port as soon as all the minor repairs are done, and then waite for the weather window, to scoot into Norfolk. It can be short as 3 days or as long as five denpending on the winds. Once in the ICW im not too concerned about progress or weather, but the bay is a different story. Definitely will touch based once in Oriental as its one of the places I want to check out as Ive heard its quit the maritime community.
Best regards and thanks
/ch
Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Chris Campbell2009-12-28 14:37 UTC
chris123 wrote:
> Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to one and all during this
> Christmas season.
Me too. For those of us in the northern latitudes and fresh-water
longitudes, this is the closest we get to sailing: reading and writing
about it. At least, that is, until the iceboat comes out.
So the latest /WoodenBoat/ magazine has a nice article on William and
John Atkin, and one of my Christmas presents was William Atkin's memoir,
/Of Yachts and Men/. I've read half of it and it's great. In the
distant days of the first half of the 20th century, he wrote monthly
design columns for /Motor Boating/ magazine and presented a new design
each month(!). Lots were sailboats, despite the rag's name. He had a
lot to say about design issues and about the art of sailing. His 32
foot "Eric" was based on the Norwegian lifeboats, scaled down, and was
the basis for the Westsail (aka Wetsnail) 32. He favored heavy, sturdy
vessels because he was oriented toward cruising and wet conditions.
There's a picture in the book of him and his son John sailing on Long
Island Sound in December.
Now we know that there are lighter ways to go out and thrash around and
get wet, which Atkin liked to do. In the summer we sometimes have
"schooner weather" days when the only boat out sailing with the
schooners is my Cal 20, and she does pretty well out there. Atkin's
"Eric" would probably be drier.
And then I came home and in the mail was the latest issue of /Good Old
Boat/ magazine. In the letters section I saw a familiar vessel--my
other boat, the 1961 Seafarer. I had responded to their article on the
Tripp Bermuda 40, of which my boat is a miniature version.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Michael Kennedy2009-12-28 15:20 UTC
I saw that. Nice letter. The Bermuda 40 was a nice story. Henry
Hinckley was considering building a fiberglass hull. A group of men
approached him and asked him to quote for construction of a Tripp
design they had commissioned. He decided to build a boat that already
had buyers. Since he was known for wood boats, his old customers were
outraged. He soothed their anger by telling them that "inside every
fiberglass boat is a wood boat."
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
On Dec 28, 2009, at 6:37 AM, Chris Campbell wrote:
> chris123 wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to drop a note of thanks to one and all during this
>> Christmas season.
>
> Me too. For those of us in the northern latitudes and fresh-water
> longitudes, this is the closest we get to sailing: reading and
> writing about it. At least, that is, until the iceboat comes out.
>
> So the latest WoodenBoat magazine has a nice article on William and
> John Atkin, and one of my Christmas presents was William Atkin's
> memoir, Of Yachts and Men. I've read half of it and it's great. In
> the distant days of the first half of the 20th century, he wrote
> monthly design columns for Motor Boating magazine and presented a
> new design each month(!). Lots were sailboats, despite the rag's
> name. He had a lot to say about design issues and about the art of
> sailing. His 32 foot "Eric" was based on the Norwegian lifeboats,
> scaled down, and was the basis for the Westsail (aka Wetsnail) 32.
> He favored heavy, sturdy vessels because he was oriented toward
> cruising and wet conditions. There's a picture in the book of him
> and his son John sailing on Long Island Sound in December.
>
> Now we know that there are lighter ways to go out and thrash around
> and get wet, which Atkin liked to do. In the summer we sometimes
> have "schooner weather" days when the only boat out sailing with the
> schooners is my Cal 20, and she does pretty well out there.
> Atkin's "Eric" would probably be drier.
>
> And then I came home and in the mail was the latest issue of Good
> Old Boat magazine. In the letters section I saw a familiar vessel--
> my other boat, the 1961 Seafarer. I had responded to their article
> on the Tripp Bermuda 40, of which my boat is a miniature version.
>
> Chris Campbell
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Chris Campbell2009-12-28 18:08 UTC
Michael Kennedy wrote:
> He soothed their anger by telling them that "inside every
> fiberglass boat is a wood boat."
>
Maybe he was preparing them for the expense of the deck recoring job
that would come along later....
Chris Campbell
>
Winter Sailing
Michael D2009-12-28 18:30 UTC
Ahoy to all Cal Sailors,
For those of you that can't get out the water, perhaps you may be interested in following along with the Fort Lauderdale to Key West race. It is a 160 nm coastal run that starts at 1300 hours on January 13th.
I will be crewing again this year as fore deck on Sempre Amantes, a 42 foot Hunter Passage. Last year we finished third place with an elapsed time of 23:24:03. Here are some photos from last year... http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=77841&id=573217072&l=54a2ec646d
According to http://keywestrace.org/index.html, this year entrants will have transponders aboard for position reporting.
Happy New Year!
-Michael-
Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Michael Kennedy2009-12-28 18:35 UTC
I think he was preparing them for the expense of that wood interior.
Gorgeous but heavy and expensive.
Mike Kennedy
Conquest Cal 40 # 96
On Dec 28, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Chris Campbell wrote:
> Michael Kennedy wrote:
>> He soothed their anger by telling them that "inside every
>> fiberglass boat is a wood boat."
>>
>
> Maybe he was preparing them for the expense of the deck recoring job
> that would come along later....
>
> Chris Campbell
>>
>
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank you
Allen Edwards2009-12-28 19:24 UTC
> "inside every fiberglass boat is a wood boat."
Funny, many people tell me I am slowly turning my wood boat into a
fiberglass boat. It would probably be more accurate to say I am
slowly turning it into an epoxy boat.
Allen
Thank You
Kool Beans2016-05-30 02:07 UTC
Greetings everyone!
Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day weekend!
I want to thank all the veterans in this group for serving our wonderful country, for your sacrifice in time and effort, and especially your spouses sacrifices during your tour of duty. If any of you have additional family members serving, please let them know that I appreciate their service as well!
I hope everyone is getting some good sailing in and I will hopefully join in later this week! I will give an update on my progress soon!
As always, please be safe!
Regards,
Jim Ives - Kool Beans
Cal 2-29
Rochester, NY
Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank You
Gerald Sobel2016-05-30 03:44 UTC
Regarding Memorial Day
I don't mean to hurt any anyone's feelings, and I do want to thank Jim for thinking of the veterans, but, honestly, this a very misunderstood holiday. It's not for or about veterans, (that's done on veteran's day) and it's not for marking the beginning of Summer, and not meant as an excuse for marketing cars, toys, and appliances.It used to be called Decoration Day. It's meant to go to cemeteries and decorate the graves of young men and women who've tragically lost their lives in combat. It originated during the Civil War, and it was an informal day during which loved ones, wives, parents, sweethearts would memorialize by decorating their graves with flowers and bunting.There's a good article about the holiday in yesterday's The Guardian News Paper on line. It tells about a young man who lost his best friend during the largest helicopter assault since Vietnam, in 2009, in Afghanistan; shot in the neck by a sniper and bled to death even before his comrades could carry him, under fire, to a medevac helicopter. His battalion of Marines lost over a dozen killed, and many more wounded and maimed. He was so distraught that he returned in shock from severe PTSD, which the VA failed to treat successfully, and he committed suicide. Look it up, worth a read. His mom nearly committed suicide herself so distraught was she, but resolved to do something constructive for others in her son's situation, but her efforts were sabotaged by a politician as "costing too much". She didn't give up, and her legislation is once again before Congress.
Anyway,All the best,Gerald Sobel, Shpritz,
On Sunday, May 29, 2016 7:07 PM, "Kool Beans ne… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Greetings everyone!
Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day weekend!
I want to thank all the veterans in this group for serving our wonderful country, for your sacrifice in time and effort, and especially your spouses sacrifices during your tour of duty. If any of you have additional family members serving, please let them know that I appreciate their service as well!
I hope everyone is getting some good sailing in and I will hopefully join in later this week! I will give an update on my progress soon!
As always, please be safe!
Regards,
Jim Ives - Kool BeansCal 2-29Rochester, NY
Re: [Cal_Boats] Thank You
Helen Horn2016-05-30 06:02 UTC
Gerry, you are correct in the historic info, but today at a large weekend cruise in with quite a few yacht clubs attending (after the Indy 500, before the ballgame) there was a ceremonial hoisting of the flag by all veterans present in honor of the lives lost, observed by all present. Some with tears. Those who served and serve should be thanked daily, this day is a jog to the collective memories that sacrifices continue to be made, for all of us. Yet I wonder how they must feel as we see many of our freedoms slipping away, including access to the shores that belong to all of the people of this country they are defending. It is particularly important to support them when they return permanently wounded. Please participate in your local activities to take them sailing if you have a chance. Helen
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On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Regarding Memorial Day
I don't mean to hurt any anyone's feelings, and I do want to thank Jim for thinking of the veterans, but, honestly, this a very misunderstood holiday. It's not for or about veterans, (that's done on veteran's day) and it's not for marking the beginning of Summer, and not meant as an excuse for marketing cars, toys, and appliances.It used to be called Decoration Day. It's meant to go to cemeteries and decorate the graves of young men and women who've tragically lost their lives in combat. It originated during the Civil War, and it was an informal day during which loved ones, wives, parents, sweethearts would memorialize by decorating their graves with flowers and bunting.There's a good article about the holiday in yesterday's The Guardian News Paper on line. It tells about a young man who lost his best friend during the largest helicopter assault since Vietnam, in 2009, in Afghanistan; shot in the neck by a sniper and bled to death even before his comrades could carry him, under fire, to a medevac helicopter. His battalion of Marines lost over a dozen killed, and many more wounded and maimed. He was so distraught that he returned in shock from severe PTSD, which the VA failed to treat successfully, and he committed suicide. Look it up, worth a read. His mom nearly committed suicide herself so distraught was she, but resolved to do something const! ructive for others in her son's situation, but her efforts were sabotaged by a politician as "costing too much". She didn't give up, and her legislation is once again before Congress.
Anyway,All the best,Gerald Sobel, Shpritz,
On Sunday, May 29, 2016 7:07 PM, "Kool Beans ne… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Greetings everyone!
Hope everyone is enjoying their Memorial Day weekend!
I want to thank all the veterans in this group for serving our wonderful country, for your sacrifice in time and effort, and especially your spouses sacrifices during your tour of duty. If any of you have additional family members serving, please let them know that I appreciate their service as well!
I hope everyone is getting some good sailing in and I will hopefully join in later this week! I will give an update on my progress soon!
As always, please be safe!
Regards,
Jim Ives - Kool BeansCal 2-29Rochester, NY