Re: [Cal_Boats] A fool and his life are soon parted. [ was Re: Non marine gasoline gensets - was Honda generator - was: [Cal_Bo

Joe, he didn't even use hose clamps on the fuel line! Probably not ABYC/USCG compliant hose either. I wonder whether HONDA may have designed the fuel tank capacity to limit how long the unit will run between shut-downs, as well as to fit under the casing? Running 25 hours without stopping may cause undue wear and tear...... unit may wear out faster. Potential for 25 hours of exhaust gases seeping into boat.... Oh, well... after he wins a Darwin Award, maybe he'll learn. Oh wait... you have to be dead to get a Darwin Award! I doubt that Rube Goldberg setup if his will stay in place the next time a big wake comes by. At least it LOOKS like he is using a true Marine adapter cord to hook the generator to his Shorepower inlet. People will do dumb things. Scary! Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 Was: "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:12:33 -0400 "Joe DeMers je… [at] mindspring.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: The very sad part about this fool, is that he is endangering the lives of innocent people, because he refuses to recognize that saving money should not be the overriding concern in selecting a marine generator. Joe DeMers On 6/14/16 6:24 PM, Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: I sense a Darwin Award on its way to that guy. Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:06 PM, du… [at] aim.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: ...and this should get Joe hyperventilating... http://boatbits.blogspot.com/2008/04/honda-eu2000i-hybrid-fuel-supply.htm l <grin> -- Joe DeMers - owner Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.comphone & fax (860) 666-2184 Los Angeles Post This Father and Son Took the Same Photo 28 Years in a Row, Last One is ... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5760d3c3a4e3e53c22799st03duc

Even if you are not as dumb as this guy, a good practice is to put a CO detector in your boat. You can buy them at the hardware store. Cheap insurance. Mine went off at a dock once when we were next to a powerboat running its engine. Got my kids out of the boat until the situation blew over (literally). I will take bets on whether this smart guy in the link has one. Terry Spencer Capriccio Cal 29 Tacoma > On Jun 14, 2016, at 9:01 PM, rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >  > > Joe, he didn't even use hose clamps on the fuel line! Probably not ABYC/USCG compliant hose either. I wonder whether HONDA may have designed the fuel tank capacity to limit how long the unit will run between shut-downs, as well as to fit under the casing? Running 25 hours without stopping may cause undue wear and tear...... unit may wear out faster. Potential for 25 hours of exhaust gases seeping into boat.... > > Oh, well... after he wins a Darwin Award, maybe he'll learn. Oh wait... you have to be dead to get a Darwin Award! > > I doubt that Rube Goldberg setup if his will stay in place the next time a big wake comes by. > > At least it LOOKS like he is using a true Marine adapter cord to hook the generator to his Shorepower inlet. > > People will do dumb things. Scary! > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 > Was: "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:12:33 -0400 "Joe DeMers je… [at] mindspring.com <mailto:je… [at] mindspring.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> writes: > > The very sad part about this fool, is that he is endangering the lives of innocent people, because he refuses to recognize that saving money should not be the overriding concern in selecting a marine generator. > > Joe DeMers > > > On 6/14/16 6:24 PM, Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> I sense a Darwin Award on its way to that guy. >> >> Greg Beron >> Cal 29 Happy Hour >> Marina del Rey >> >> On Jun 14, 2016, at 2:06 PM, du… [at] aim.com <mailto:du… [at] aim.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >> >>> >>> ...and this should get Joe hyperventilating... >>> >>> >>> http://boatbits.blogspot.com/2008/04/honda-eu2000i-hybrid-fuel-supply.html <http://boatbits.blogspot.com/2008/04/honda-eu2000i-hybrid-fuel-supply.html> >>> >>> <grin> > > -- > Joe DeMers - owner > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/>phone & fax (860) 666-2184 > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Los Angeles Post > This Father and Son Took the Same Photo 28 Years in a Row, Last One is ... > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5760d3c3a4e3e53c22799st03duc>http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5760d3c3a4e3e53c22799st03duc <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5760d3c3a4e3e53c22799st03duc> > > > <1464031581_phpFA8bON><stime=1465956766><logo-groups-137x15.png>

To be sure, I don't use or recommend a portable gas generator on a boat. The addition of an external gas tank for the Honda has been around for a long time. You can even buy an "extended run kit" for them. I use one with my RV, but the generator is at least 50' downwind. Also, in the amateur radio world it is common to use these kits. If done right, it's safe, and I've run mine for 48 hours without a problem. In a couple of weeks, we (ham radio club) will run 5 of them for an entire weekend, as we have done the last bunch of years. Be safe, don't do this where CO can get into the living space, like your cabin! Carl Cal 34 Nauta

To add to that for anyone that don't know, carbon monoxide is heaver than air and odeerless. It can easily settle in a low cabin like our boats have. The venting high up will do nothing to remove it. If I use such a generator I'll prob have 2 detectors at floor level and do my best to keep exhaust blowing down wind where no windows are open! LenovoYT3-X50F On Jun 15, 2016 6:02 AM, "sa… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: To be sure, I don't use or recommend a portable gas generator on a boat. The addition of an external gas tank for the Honda has been around for a long time. You can even buy an "extended run kit" for them. I use one with my RV, but the generator is at least 50' downwind. Also, in the amateur radio world it is common to use these kits. If done right, it's safe, and I've run mine for 48 hours without a problem. In a couple of weeks, we (ham radio club) will run 5 of them for an entire weekend, as we have done the last bunch of years. Be safe, don't do this where CO can get into the living space, like your cabin! Carl Cal 34 Nauta

Actually, it's slightly lighter than air (97% of air's weight at room temp) so it doesn't sink down into spaces and fill them up. Since it is so close to the same as air, it just mixes rather than floating up and away. The riser idea will work, and such items are sold to the RV industry to carry generator exhaust up above roof level so you don't kill your neighbors when parked real close at jamborees and such. Your CO detectors should be basically where you're breathing at. Near but not right on top of possible sources like your stove or a heater. Too close and you'll get nuisance alarms during start up when things tend to run a little dirty. > On Jun 15, 2016, at 23:09, Matthew Cole ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > To add to that for anyone that don't know, carbon monoxide is heaver than air and odeerless. It can easily settle in a low cabin like our boats have. The venting high up will do nothing to remove it. If I use such a generator I'll prob have 2 detectors at floor level and do my best to keep exhaust blowing down wind where no windows are open! > > LenovoYT3-X50F > > On Jun 15, 2016 6:02 AM, "sa… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > To be sure, I don't use or recommend a portable gas generator on a boat. > The addition of an external gas tank for the Honda has been around for a long time. You can even buy an "extended run kit" for them. I use one with my RV, but the generator is at least 50' downwind. Also, in the amateur radio world it is common to use these kits. If done right, it's safe, and I've run mine for 48 hours without a problem. In a couple of weeks, we (ham radio club) will run 5 of them for an entire weekend, as we have done the last bunch of years. > Be safe, don't do this where CO can get into the living space, like your cabin! > > Carl > Cal 34 Nauta > >

On 6/16/2016 2:50 AM, Kris cr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Actually, it's slightly lighter than air (97% of air's weight at room > temp) so it doesn't sink down into spaces and fill them up. Since it > is so close to the same as air, it just mixes rather than floating up > and away. The riser idea will work, and such items are sold to the RV > industry to carry generator exhaust up above roof level so you don't > kill your neighbors when parked real close at jamborees and such. > Your CO detectors should be basically where you're breathing at. Near > but not right on top of possible sources like your stove or a heater. > Too close and you'll get nuisance alarms during start up when things > tend to run a little dirty. Just a note from personal experience. A few years back we had an extended wintertime power outage. I was concerned about keeping my house's temperatures up to avoid freezing of pipes, etc. so I ran the gas stove and oven for a while, knowing that there was a CO issue and trying to monitor myself. Eventually I started feeling dopey and I turned the burners off. I set off on my daily exercise routine, an extended hike in hills. The fatigue was notable and unusual, and it took a couple days to reverse. That, apparently, is the heart of the problem--it takes a long time to get the stuff out of your blood. Be careful. Chris Campbell >