8 messages2016-06-22 14:31 UTCthrough 2016-06-23 17:41 UTC
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
vectormenow2016-06-22 14:31 UTC
I owned hull 61 Coyote, there was no hull number on the boat
What is on your title..? I have owned 8 cal 20's and just 2 had hull # inside the transom
From: "bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Date: 06/22/2016 7:17 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
Anyone know where to find the hull number on a Cal 20 hull? I have looked in the usual spot (starboard transom). The boat is a "sub 100" hull number.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
rj… [at] juno.com2016-06-22 14:44 UTC
A CAL 20 with a Hull# of less than 100 would be from the early 1960's,
long before the 1972 start of the USCG required 12-digit HIN. So, there
will not be a Hull# on the outside of the transom unless a previous owner
has properly marked the boat with a State-issued HIN issued sometime
since 1989 (depending on what State the boat was registered with at that
time.)
However, all CAL boats had the Hull# marked on the inside of the transom,
somewhere on the starboard half of the inside surface. This was done by
taking what appears to be a number printed in black on a white paper
label applied to the inside of the transom and covered by one thin layer
of fiberglass (FG is transparent or at least translucent when wet out
with resin). A previous owner may have painted over the label.
Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD"
1979 O'DAY DS II #10201
was co-owner of "NODROG"
1970 CAL 21 #285
On 22 Jun 2016 07:17:48 -0700 "bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]"
<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes:
Anyone know where to find the hull number on a Cal 20 hull? I have
looked in the usual spot (starboard transom). The boat is a "sub 100"
hull number.
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
george macon2016-06-22 16:06 UTC
Sometimes you can find hull #s under drawers and woodwork.
George M...
From: ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 6/22/2016 12:04 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; bl… [at] sbcglobal.net<mailto:bl… [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
On 6/22/2016 10:17 AM, bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote:
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> Anyone know where to find the hull number on a Cal 20 hull? I have
> looked in the usual spot (starboard transom). The boat is a "sub 100"
> hull number.
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Rod's reply points out that the number is shown INSIDE the transom, not
outside in what is now the "usual" (mandated) location. Back then
there was no requirement of using a hull ID number in the form we expect
today.. My boat (#1220) has the little unpainted oval space inside
showing its number.
Chris Campbell
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
ccampbell2016-06-22 16:24 UTC
On 6/22/2016 12:06 PM, george macon ge… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]
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> Sometimes you can find hull #s under drawers and woodwork.
Cal 20s ain't got no drawers! And not much woodwork, for that matter.
I did some painting below in mine this spring and did not observe any
numbers on the only portable woodwork, the access lids for storage spaces.
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
george macon2016-06-22 16:51 UTC
Whoops! Sorry... My other cals were all labelled that way!
George Macon
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; ge… [at] hotmail.com
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:24:44 -0400
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
On 6/22/2016 12:06 PM, george macon
ge… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
Sometimes
you can find hull #s under drawers and woodwork.
Cal 20s ain't got no drawers! And not much woodwork, for that
matter. I did some painting below in mine this spring and did not
observe any numbers on the only portable woodwork, the access lids
for storage spaces.
Chris Campbell
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
vectormenow2016-06-22 23:45 UTC
Not always so. Many boats have sail numbers assigned locally
My best, Mike Farrell
From: "Timm Lessley ti… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Date: 06/22/2016 12:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com,bl… [at] sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
What is your sail number? In pdx the sail number is the hull number.
On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:17 AM, bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Anyone know where to find the hull number on a Cal 20 hull? I have looked in the usual spot (starboard transom). The boat is a "sub 100" hull number.
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
Charlie Husar2016-06-23 04:15 UTC
Hi, All. The PHRF numbers are assigned locally and are 5 digit numbers nowadays. Some old IOR and MORC numbers were 4 or 5 digits, and were never as low as the hull number of the boat. In an area with a one design racing fleet (e.g., J/24s or Cal 25s in Annapolis) the sail number reflects the hull number. We have one exception here in the Cal 25s. That boat came to Annapolis from Detroit. For the Cal 20s, any sail number under 2000 is a hull number (unless the owner bought someone else’s sails).
Take Care
Charlie
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To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Timm Lessley <ti… [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
Not always so. Many boats have sail numbers assigned locally
My best, Mike Farrell
From: "Timm Lessley ti… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Date: 06/22/2016 12:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com,bl… [at] sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
What is your sail number? In pdx the sail number is the hull number.
On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:17 AM, bl… [at] sbcglobal.net <mailto:bl… [at] sbcglobal.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote:
Anyone know where to find the hull number on a Cal 20 hull? I have looked in the usual spot (starboard transom). The boat is a "sub 100" hull number.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
Timm Lessley2016-06-23 17:41 UTC
Agree, yet in portland hull number is sail number except in one case, a cal 20 has sail number 000, three stooges -owned by three admittedly comic characters
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> Date: 06/22/2016 12:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com,bl… [at] sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 20 Hull Numbers
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> What is your sail number? In pdx the sail number is the hull number.
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> Sent from my iPhone, awed grammar and spelling courtesy of iPhone tachmology
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>> On Jun 22, 2016, at 4:17 AM, bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Anyone know where to find the hull number on a Cal 20 hull? I have looked in the usual spot (starboard transom). The boat is a "sub 100" hull number.
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