Cal 33-2 opening port replacement

Wondering if anyone knows the brand of the opening ports in a 1986 Cal 33-2. Or what will fit as a replacement. There are four in the cabin and one in the hull on starboard side. The starboard side hull opening port has been damaged. Not bad, but the exterior lip got cracked. It is very brittle and can't take much of a bump from anything (even a cleaning brush). I am thinking of replacing that opening port and maybe just do them all. I found this Beckson model and it appears very similar to what is currently on the boat. http://www.downwindmarine.com/Beckson-Opening-Ports-Plastic-p-90892064.html I took measurements last Friday while down at the boat finishing some teak, but of course now can't find the paper. I think I need to order a 5" x 12" opening size. Does anyone have measurements of the opening ports and a good source for replacements? Should I go back with plastic ports or metal? Seems the plastic has lasted 30 years. Thanks, Leslie Puffin 1986 Cal 33-2

I replaced our ports years ago. Purchased from pompanette.com the gray series ports. I had to trim for the rain drain in the new series but otherwise a exact replacement. The exterior "spigot length" can be trimmed so it doesn't extend too far from the hull or cabin sides. Trimming also helps when re-caulking as needed. I used a rotozip with a 90 degree cutter head to get about a 1/2" from the hull. John Raxter Cal 33 Oriental NC > On Jul 11, 2016, at 1:57 PM, NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Wondering if anyone knows the brand of the opening ports in a 1986 Cal 33-2. Or what will fit as a replacement. There are four in the cabin and one in the hull on starboard side. The starboard side hull opening port has been damaged. Not bad, but the exterior lip got cracked. It is very brittle and can't take much of a bump from anything (even a cleaning brush). I am thinking of replacing that opening port and maybe just do them all. > > I found this Beckson model and it appears very similar to what is currently on the boat. > > http://www.downwindmarine.com/Beckson-Opening-Ports-Plastic-p-90892064.html > > I took measurements last Friday while down at the boat finishing some teak, but of course now can't find the paper. I think I need to order a 5" x 12" opening size. > > Does anyone have measurements of the opening ports and a good source for replacements? > Should I go back with plastic ports or metal? Seems the plastic has lasted 30 years. > > Thanks, > > Leslie > Puffin 1986 Cal 33-2 > >

Until three months ago, I had an ’86 33-2. The opening ports on mine were plastic Beckson Newport 512 ports. Over the years, I replaced all of them. Can be ordered directly from Beckson or through marine supply houses. Travis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 12:58 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33-2 opening port replacement Wondering if anyone knows the brand of the opening ports in a 1986 Cal 33-2. Or what will fit as a replacement. There are four in the cabin and one in the hull on starboard side. The starboard side hull opening port has been damaged. Not bad, but the exterior lip got cracked. It is very brittle and can't take much of a bump from anything (even a cleaning brush). I am thinking of replacing that opening port and maybe just do them all. I found this Beckson model and it appears very similar to what is currently on the boat. http://www.downwindmarine.com/Beckson-Opening-Ports-Plastic-p-90892064.html I took measurements last Friday while down at the boat finishing some teak, but of course now can't find the paper. I think I need to order a 5" x 12" opening size. Does anyone have measurements of the opening ports and a good source for replacements? Should I go back with plastic ports or metal? Seems the plastic has lasted 30 years. Thanks, Leslie Puffin 1986 Cal 33-2

Many of the original port lights for Cals were made by Mark Heacox t/a Mark Plastics 369 E. Harrison St. Unit-G Corona, CA 92879 Phone: (951) 735-7705 FAX: (951) 735-0701 Email address: ma… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:ma… [at] hotmail.com> The frames are plastic. I have procured many for Cal 25s in Annapolis, and am pleased with the results.

I replaced my Beckson 512s with New Found Metals Tri-Matrix ports. They are attractive, real sturdy, relatively easy to install (videos on their website) and the price is about the same. Best, Mike Casillo Cal 2-25 Annapolis > On Jul 11, 2016, at 6:38 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Many of the original port lights for Cals were made by > > > > Mark Heacox t/a > Mark Plastics > 369 E. Harrison St. Unit-G > Corona, CA 92879 > Phone: (951) 735-7705 > FAX: (951) 735-0701 > > > > Email address: > > ma… [at] hotmail.com > > > > The frames are plastic. I have procured many for Cal 25s in Annapolis, and am pleased with the results. > > > > From a previous note, it was not obvious to me whether the person was looking for a sealant for the glass within the window, or for the overall installation of the window onto the boat. For the installation of window glass (or lexan or whatever), I finally found some spline at an RV parts place. For the overall install, I think the butyl rubber would work, but have not tried that. There would be several applications of goo involved. I can send some detail on how I did it if anyone is interested. The butyl may not solve everything because I believe it needs compression to work well. > > > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > Cal 25 and Cal 40 > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 6:04 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; 'NEWMAN' <d2… [at] gmail.com> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33-2 opening port replacement > > > > Until three months ago, I had an ’86 33-2. The opening ports on mine were plastic Beckson Newport 512 ports. Over the years, I replaced all of them. Can be ordered directly from Beckson or through marine supply houses. > > Travis > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 12:58 PM > To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33-2 opening port replacement > > > > > > Wondering if anyone knows the brand of the opening ports in a 1986 Cal 33-2. Or what will fit as a replacement. There are four in the cabin and one in the hull on starboard side. The starboard side hull opening port has been damaged. Not bad, but the exterior lip got cracked. It is very brittle and can't take much of a bump from anything (even a cleaning brush). I am thinking of replacing that opening port and maybe just do them all. > > > > I found this Beckson model and it appears very similar to what is currently on the boat. > > > > http://www.downwindmarine.com/Beckson-Opening-Ports-Plastic-p-90892064.html > > > > I took measurements last Friday while down at the boat finishing some teak, but of course now can't find the paper. I think I need to order a 5" x 12" opening size. > > > > Does anyone have measurements of the opening ports and a good source for replacements? > > Should I go back with plastic ports or metal? Seems the plastic has lasted 30 years. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Leslie > > Puffin 1986 Cal 33-2 > > > > > > > > >

Thanks all. All of mine are exactly like the opening ports pictured on this Bomar site. Have the exact same knobs to open them. The hinge and glass are identical. https://www.pompanette.com/BigSummit/pomp.nsf/0/2648B1279F709117852578170048142D?Open So I guess mine are Bomar. I found the Beckson 'Rain Drain' model 5 1/2" x 12 1/2" on Walmart's website for $121 each, which is a real deal it seems. But I already like the Bomar so might just order that model. Defender has the Bomar port for $147. Little more for the Bomar than the Beckson, but I am thinking I'll go back with what was there. I did find my paper with measurements. Opening Port size is ~ 5" x 12" inside. ~ 15" x 8" outside measure. The rim around the port measured ~ 1 3/16". All these measurements were taken of the port while it is still installed, so guessing the hole opening in the boat must be at least 5 1/2" x 12 1/2" or so. All these numbers seem to line up with the Bomar G512-AD27. I do appreciated the feedback from folks. Leslie Puffin On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 9:46 PM, Mike's Yahoo mi… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > I replaced my Beckson 512s with New Found Metals Tri-Matrix ports. They > are attractive, real sturdy, relatively easy to install (videos on their > website) and the price is about the same. > > Best, > > Mike Casillo > Cal 2-25 Annapolis > > > > On Jul 11, 2016, at 6:38 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Many of the original port lights for Cals were made by > > > > Mark Heacox t/a > Mark Plastics > 369 E. Harrison St. Unit-G > Corona, CA 92879 > Phone: (951) 735-7705 > FAX: (951) 735-0701 > > > > Email address: > > ma… [at] hotmail.com > > > > The frames are plastic. I have procured many for Cal 25s in Annapolis, > and am pleased with the results. > > > > From a previous note, it was not obvious to me whether the person was > looking for a sealant for the glass within the window, or for the overall > installation of the window onto the boat. For the installation of window > glass (or lexan or whatever), I finally found some spline at an RV parts > place. For the overall install, I think the butyl rubber would work, but > have not tried that. There would be several applications of goo involved. > I can send some detail on how I did it if anyone is interested. The butyl > may not solve everything because I believe it needs compression to work > well. > > > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > Cal 25 and Cal 40 > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2016 6:04 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; 'NEWMAN' <d2… [at] gmail.com> > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33-2 opening port replacement > > > > Until three months ago, I had an ’86 33-2. The opening ports on mine were > plastic Beckson Newport 512 ports. Over the years, I replaced all of > them. Can be ordered directly from Beckson or through marine supply houses. > > Travis > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, July 11, 2016 12:58 PM > *To:* ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Cal 33-2 opening port replacement > > > > > > Wondering if anyone knows the brand of the opening ports in a 1986 Cal > 33-2. Or what will fit as a replacement. There are four in the cabin and > one in the hull on starboard side. The starboard side hull opening port has > been damaged. Not bad, but the exterior lip got cracked. It is very brittle > and can't take much of a bump from anything (even a cleaning brush). I am > thinking of replacing that opening port and maybe just do them all. > > > > I found this Beckson model and it appears very similar to what is > currently on the boat. > > > > http://www.downwindmarine.com/Beckson-Opening-Ports-Plastic-p-90892064.html > > > > I took measurements last Friday while down at the boat finishing some > teak, but of course now can't find the paper. I think I need to order a 5" > x 12" opening size. > > > > Does anyone have measurements of the opening ports and a good source for > replacements? > > Should I go back with plastic ports or metal? Seems the plastic has lasted > 30 years. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Leslie > > Puffin 1986 Cal 33-2 > > > > > > > > >

our original ports were replaced by PO..we have one left (non opening aluminum with glass) they we replaced with beckson plastic ..We decided to go with Lewmar opening ports on our 36 ...we ran adds on craigslist across the lower 48 ...we found within 5 months 6 ports size "O"....however the size we need was size "1"...So we searched again found 6 used Lewmar 3 different pairs 1 new old stock (main salon) clear, 1pair green tint black knobs (bathroom), and 1pair blue tint black knobs (v berth)... i would not use plastic ..crew drags feet across the cabin cracking plastic rims causing leaks and dogs break out of frame making hard to lock down....plus they seem to yellow out earlier and plastic becomes brittle ..which leads to cracking ....we looked at New Found metals ports that seemed clunky and did not match our aluminum main fixed Cal cabin ports... (plus $$$)....Also we have no liner inside so ports bond to fiberglass on both sides.. I would recommend that 1st take out all ports and make template of each hole in cabin top...befor you order ... This up grade probably was the MOST visually satisfying of all the up grades...one tool that helped the most was a drum sander with round sanding drum (3") power by drill... make sure that the that the center line is centered or they will look light steps in a light house...edward On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:57 AM, NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Wondering if anyone knows the brand of the opening ports in a 1986 Cal > 33-2. Or what will fit as a replacement. There are four in the cabin and > one in the hull on starboard side. The starboard side hull opening port has > been damaged. Not bad, but the exterior lip got cracked. It is very brittle > and can't take much of a bump from anything (even a cleaning brush). I am > thinking of replacing that opening port and maybe just do them all. > > I found this Beckson model and it appears very similar to what is > currently on the boat. > > http://www.downwindmarine.com/Beckson-Opening-Ports-Plastic-p-90892064.html > > I took measurements last Friday while down at the boat finishing some > teak, but of course now can't find the paper. I think I need to order a 5" > x 12" opening size. > > Does anyone have measurements of the opening ports and a good source for > replacements? > Should I go back with plastic ports or metal? Seems the plastic has lasted > 30 years. > > Thanks, > > Leslie > Puffin 1986 Cal 33-2 > > >