22 messages2006-09-01 05:50 UTCthrough 2016-09-05 13:12 UTC
Sailboat Racing
david dobbs2006-09-01 05:50 UTC
Guys,
I had another lesson on boat handling in tough conditions Wednesday evening. My club has Wednesday night racing with 2 sections, spinnaker and jam. This Wednesday we assembled at the club for the skippers meeting and the course was given, and we went to our boats. Some of us, that is, because it had been blowing over 25 from the north for 3 days and the seas were ugly, but hey, we're racers. Well, we put one reef in the main and headed out, and it was as advertised. Winds were 23-28, seas were up to 8 feet and we started the race. Race to a bouy and back, 6 miles total. Close reach to the mark, and downwind back. We almost rounded up twice downwind, surfing over 9 knots at times. Extreme conditions, but the boat was under control, we knew what to do and when to do it. We actually finished first. The point of my story is not that racers are crazy, but that racing can teach you how to handle a sailboat in adverse conditions, and it can develop your confidence in
your own skills. Because some day you may be on a passage, or just out for a day sail when the weather turns bad. That's when those racing skills will come in handy. No, it wasn't fun, I was crewing and banged my elbow on something, and sweated inside my foul weather gear, but when we returned I was satisfied. It had been a while since I had been out in nasty conditions, and I needed a refresher.
Regards,
David Dobbs
Cal 29 411
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david dobbs2007-06-19 03:23 UTC
Guys,
We just finished the NOOD Regatta in Chicago. Three
days of racing for fleets from GL70's to Etchalls.
You can't begin to appreciate what it takes to produce
an event like that until you work on it. I've been a
long time racer, but got volunteered for the mark set
boat for one of the four courses this time. Well the
wind was ... ALL OVER THE PLACE! We moved those
damned marks so many times, and we had squalls and
rain and huge wind shifts, and course changes, and
recalls, and actually had some real races.
Point is, there wouldn't be any racing without those
willing to give their time and effort to making it
happen. Next time someone asks you to help out with a
race, regatta, whatever do it. You'll learn a lot.
And have fun, albeit of a different sort.
Regards,
David Dobbs
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing (David)
Husar, Charlie2007-06-19 15:38 UTC
I agree, David. I've been on, and run, many race committees (RCs). It
is good for the soul and you can learn a lot about racing from it to
boot.
A couple items:
Be ready to be picked on for all kinds of things beyond the RCs control.
Why wasn't this perfect or that perfect? Why did you screw up the wind?
Most of the pickers have never done any RC work. I've found the best
way to shut them up is to ask them to participate in a solution. You
never see them again.
In these days of the ascendancy of the attorney, be careful that your RC
is properly insured (and maybe the even the RC Chairman separately).
All this can be squared with USSA (for a price, of course). Somehow, a
competitor's signature (release of liability) is meaningless...
somehow.
I have a general objection to the NOODs since it is put on as a profit
making venture. Your volunteering is making them money. In Annapolis,
it is the only for profit race series (there are charity ones, but not
profit ones). In some areas, the NOOD is the big event of the year. In
Annapolis, we several "big events" so the NOOD is not particularly
special. Also, their prices to compete are going through the roof.
Sorry to close with a couple low notes.
Cheers Anyway
Charlie
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Behalf Of david dobbs
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To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Guys,
We just finished the NOOD Regatta in Chicago. Three days of racing for
fleets from GL70's to Etchalls.
You can't begin to appreciate what it takes to produce an event like
that until you work on it. I've been a long time racer, but got
volunteered for the mark set boat for one of the four courses this time.
Well the wind was ... ALL OVER THE PLACE! We moved those damned marks
so many times, and we had squalls and rain and huge wind shifts, and
course changes, and recalls, and actually had some real races.
Point is, there wouldn't be any racing without those willing to give
their time and effort to making it happen. Next time someone asks you
to help out with a race, regatta, whatever do it. You'll learn a lot.
And have fun, albeit of a different sort.
Regards,
David Dobbs
Cal29 411
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david dobbs2010-07-12 02:35 UTC
Guys,
Just got home from a regatta, 3 clubs, for local bragging rights. No, I didn't race, I worked race committee. We busted our tails, placed marks, moved marks, and cleaned up the equipment and put everything away so it will be ready for Wednesday, not to even think about next Saturday's race, when we will have 6 or more starts, with 100 or so boats. Just think about those RC folks, doing their best to give you quality racing.
Regards,
David Dobbs, Jackson Park Y.C. RC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Allen Edwards2010-07-12 02:45 UTC
I always thank the race committee chairman. I don't want him to lower my
handicap :-)
Allen
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Guys,
> Just got home from a regatta, 3 clubs, for local bragging rights. No, I
> didn't race, I worked race committee. We busted our tails, placed marks,
> moved marks, and cleaned up the equipment and put everything away so it will
> be ready for Wednesday, not to even think about next Saturday's race, when
> we will have 6 or more starts, with 100 or so boats. Just think about those
> RC folks, doing their best to give you quality racing.
> Regards,
> David Dobbs, Jackson Park Y.C. RC
>
>
>
>
RE: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Husar, Charlie [USA]2010-07-12 02:56 UTC
I don't know, Allen. After those nasty comments you made about the USSA PHRF list last week, I think they already have you in line for punitive action.
Yep, RC is hard work and often thankless. There is always a sailor contingent that thinks they know how it should be done better (until they try it themselves - if they ever would). Well done, David.
Cheers
Charlie
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Allen Edwards
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:46 PM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
I always thank the race committee chairman. I don't want him to lower my handicap :-)
Allen
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:35 PM, david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:tm… [at] yahoo.com>> wrote:
Guys,
Just got home from a regatta, 3 clubs, for local bragging rights. No, I didn't race, I worked race committee. We busted our tails, placed marks, moved marks, and cleaned up the equipment and put everything away so it will be ready for Wednesday, not to even think about next Saturday's race, when we will have 6 or more starts, with 100 or so boats. Just think about those RC folks, doing their best to give you quality racing.
Regards,
David Dobbs, Jackson Park Y.C. RC
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Helen Horn2010-07-12 21:51 UTC
Race committee people, we thank you where-ever you are, what would we do without
you, and we know you sacrifice the actual joys of racing to volunteer your time.
Edward and Helen
From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, July 11, 2010 7:45:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
I always thank the race committee chairman. I don't want him to lower my
handicap :-)
Allen
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 7:35 PM, david dobbs <tmft567@yahoo. com> wrote:
>Guys,
>Just got home from a regatta, 3 clubs, for local bragging rights. No, I didn't
>race, I worked race committee. We busted our tails, placed marks, moved marks,
>and cleaned up the equipment and put everything away so it will be ready for
>Wednesday, not to even think about next Saturday's race, when we will have 6 or
>more starts, with 100 or so boats. Just think about those RC folks, doing their
>best to give you quality racing.
>Regards,
>David Dobbs, Jackson Park Y.C. RC
>
>
Sailboat Racing
david dobbs2010-07-19 03:34 UTC
Okay all you racers, we've heard of your exploits, now you get to hear what it takes for that to happen.
Sat. am, 8. get to harbor, begin loading necessary equipment on 2 mark set boats and signal boat. 8:45, leave harbor for Starting Area 3. 9:30, arrive SA3, begin to take wind readings, very light, 3kts. Signal boat anchors and mark set boats deploy to ends of the course. Still looking very light, we wait until 45 minutes before the first start at 11 to make a tenative course direction. We hold even longer, still light winds, but enough for a start, so we decide on a course, and we place our marks at the windward end, 2 for the short course, 2 for the long course, and they go to start sequence. We get boats around our end, but the wind is shifting, going east. We confer, we have to do a course change, wind has shifted 50 degrees east. We blow up our course change marks, (Red), and race to the new position, drop a long and short course mark, and get out of the way. Signal boat has posted the course change as the racers round the leeward
gate. The fleet all rounds the windward red mark and we pull the change marks, they are finishing now. Whew, got that one done, but another race to go. Wind continues to go east, seems to finally settle at 115, and we have to set up another course. We race to the windward end, pull up the 4 marks and race to the new position. Start deploying the marks and our RC says, our leeward mark boat has a dead engine, can't set the start line. We race back, pick up the marks, tell RC to postpone. We set the marks, short postponement, and they go to start sequence. All start and we set the leeward gate. 60 boat fleet, 6 or 7 starts, Then we got the Hell out of the way. Then we went back to the windward end and picked up the 4 marks, and came back to the start, picked up those marks. Did I mention I get paid for this? NOT! We got back to our harbor about 4:30, pretty well toast, since it was sunny and about 90 degrees . I had hoped
that an intern would be at the dock to put all the stuff away, but we seem to be between interns.
And yes, our PRO went right to the computer and entered the results.
So when someone asks you to help with race committee, it ain't all sitting on a big Chris Craft. It's work.
We do it because we love sail racing, and our clubs, and it can't happen without volunteers.
Regards,
David Dobbs, Jackson Park YC Race Committee
Sailboat Racing
Michael D2014-05-13 14:58 UTC
All,
This is how not to fly a spinnaker...
Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnaker in heavy weather - YouTube
Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnak...
View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Michael
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Michael Kennedy2014-05-13 17:53 UTC
My son, when he was about 16, took my J 24 out on a day like that and flew
a chute for about 5 minutes until they went over. They had to crawl over
the side and stand on the keel to get it up after they doused the chute.
That looked like fun in the video. Going to Hawaii in 1981, we flew a chute
in 40 knot squalls and never crashed. We were 1500 miles offshore at the
time.
That's what racing is about.
Mike Kennedy
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <
Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> This is how not to fly a spinnaker...
>
>
> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnaker in heavy
> weather - YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>
> [image: image]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnak...<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
> View on www.youtube.com<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
> Preview by Yahoo
>
> Michael
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Donald C Dutton2014-05-14 22:57 UTC
That was not a typical "death roll", but very close to a pitch pole where the bow buried in the wave ahead! Mistake to the helmsman -- he should have pushed the bow up, blown the spin sheet, and re-set when he bore off on the next wave. Of course, that is from here, but I have been THERE! My favorite experience ever in racing sailboats was in the Texas Flying Scot Championships on Canyon Lake when my wife and I, already in the lead at the weather mark, set the spinnaker and SCREECHED down the beam reach to the next mark. I was sitting at the starboard aft end of the rear deck and my wife was at the very end of the gunwale on the starboard side playing the sheet. 80% of the boat was out of the water. Had we let the bow down -- well, the video here would have been us -- even though the waves were only running three feet as we were on a lake!
To me, just a normal race video @Michael Kennedy!!!!
Don Dutton
1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
PS Wish I could have had more offshore racing, but the times off shore I always pushed the boat as hard as possible as it is easier to control than when loafing in rough seas!!
On May 13, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Kennedy mt… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
>
> My son, when he was about 16, took my J 24 out on a day like that and flew a chute for about 5 minutes until they went over. They had to crawl over the side and stand on the keel to get it up after they doused the chute. That looked like fun in the video. Going to Hawaii in 1981, we flew a chute in 40 knot squalls and never crashed. We were 1500 miles offshore at the time.
>
> That's what racing is about.
>
> Mike Kennedy
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> This is how not to fly a spinnaker...
>
>
> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnaker in heavy weather - YouTube
>
>
> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnak...
> View on www.youtube.com
> Preview by Yahoo
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Michael Kennedy2014-05-16 02:21 UTC
Knockdowns and crashes in bigger boats are always exciting, I have a movie
of a Mexican race in the late 70s where we were running in heavy conditions
in a Yankee 38, a heavy offshore IOR boat that did not surf, and we took a
knockdown and gybe where I had rather foolishly used the vang as a
preventer. The boat went on its side and stayed down as the vang-preventer
was out to windward in about 30 knots. I had to run along the hull with the
masthead in the water to free the vang. We came up immediately when that
was done. We were about 30 miles off Magadalena Bay at the time. The movie
shows the rolling but not the knockdown. It is a bit similar to the movie
of Tzu Hang a few minutes before they pitchpoled, like that boat in the
video, only they were at Cape Horn. I saw the Smeetons give their talk and
show the movie at a local college in the 80s. John Guzzwell was there, as
well.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Donald C Dutton
dn… [at] comcast.net[Cal_Boats]
<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> That was not a typical "death roll", but very close to a pitch pole where
> the bow buried in the wave ahead! Mistake to the helmsman -- he should
> have pushed the bow up, blown the spin sheet, and re-set when he bore off
> on the next wave. Of course, that is from here, but I have been THERE! My
> favorite experience ever in racing sailboats was in the Texas Flying Scot
> Championships on Canyon Lake when my wife and I, already in the lead at the
> weather mark, set the spinnaker and SCREECHED down the beam reach to the
> next mark. I was sitting at the starboard aft end of the rear deck and my
> wife was at the very end of the gunwale on the starboard side playing the
> sheet. 80% of the boat was out of the water. Had we let the bow down --
> well, the video here would have been us -- even though the waves were only
> running three feet as we were on a lake!
>
> To me, just a normal race video @Michael Kennedy!!!!
>
> Don Dutton
> 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
>
> PS Wish I could have had more offshore racing, but the times off shore I
> always pushed the boat as hard as possible as it is easier to control than
> when loafing in rough seas!!
>
>
> On May 13, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Kennedy mt… [at] gmail.com[Cal_Boats] wrote:
>
>
>
> My son, when he was about 16, took my J 24 out on a day like that and flew
> a chute for about 5 minutes until they went over. They had to crawl over
> the side and stand on the keel to get it up after they doused the chute.
> That looked like fun in the video. Going to Hawaii in 1981, we flew a chute
> in 40 knot squalls and never crashed. We were 1500 miles offshore at the
> time.
>
> That's what racing is about.
>
> Mike Kennedy
>
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <
> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> This is how not to fly a spinnaker...
>>
>>
>> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnaker in heavy
>> weather - YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>>
>> [image: image]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnak...<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>> View on www.youtube.com<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>> Preview by Yahoo
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Michael Kennedy2014-05-16 02:24 UTC
A link to a story about John Guzzwell.
https://www.latitude38.com/features/Guzzwell.html#.U3V2a8ZR7Yc
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Michael Kennedy <mt… [at] gmail.com>wrote:
> Knockdowns and crashes in bigger boats are always exciting, I have a movie
> of a Mexican race in the late 70s where we were running in heavy conditions
> in a Yankee 38, a heavy offshore IOR boat that did not surf, and we took a
> knockdown and gybe where I had rather foolishly used the vang as a
> preventer. The boat went on its side and stayed down as the vang-preventer
> was out to windward in about 30 knots. I had to run along the hull with the
> masthead in the water to free the vang. We came up immediately when that
> was done. We were about 30 miles off Magadalena Bay at the time. The movie
> shows the rolling but not the knockdown. It is a bit similar to the movie
> of Tzu Hang a few minutes before they pitchpoled, like that boat in the
> video, only they were at Cape Horn. I saw the Smeetons give their talk and
> show the movie at a local college in the 80s. John Guzzwell was there, as
> well.
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Donald C Dutton dn… [at] comcast.net[Cal_Boats]
> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> That was not a typical "death roll", but very close to a pitch pole where
>> the bow buried in the wave ahead! Mistake to the helmsman -- he should
>> have pushed the bow up, blown the spin sheet, and re-set when he bore off
>> on the next wave. Of course, that is from here, but I have been THERE! My
>> favorite experience ever in racing sailboats was in the Texas Flying Scot
>> Championships on Canyon Lake when my wife and I, already in the lead at the
>> weather mark, set the spinnaker and SCREECHED down the beam reach to the
>> next mark. I was sitting at the starboard aft end of the rear deck and my
>> wife was at the very end of the gunwale on the starboard side playing the
>> sheet. 80% of the boat was out of the water. Had we let the bow down --
>> well, the video here would have been us -- even though the waves were only
>> running three feet as we were on a lake!
>>
>> To me, just a normal race video @Michael Kennedy!!!!
>>
>> Don Dutton
>> 1986 Cal 33-2, "Quantum Evolution"
>>
>> PS Wish I could have had more offshore racing, but the times off shore I
>> always pushed the boat as hard as possible as it is easier to control than
>> when loafing in rough seas!!
>>
>>
>> On May 13, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Michael Kennedy mt… [at] gmail.com[Cal_Boats] wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> My son, when he was about 16, took my J 24 out on a day like that and
>> flew a chute for about 5 minutes until they went over. They had to crawl
>> over the side and stand on the keel to get it up after they doused the
>> chute. That looked like fun in the video. Going to Hawaii in 1981, we flew
>> a chute in 40 knot squalls and never crashed. We were 1500 miles offshore
>> at the time.
>>
>> That's what racing is about.
>>
>> Mike Kennedy
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <
>> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> This is how not to fly a spinnaker...
>>>
>>>
>>> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnaker in heavy
>>> weather - YouTube<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>>>
>>> [image: image]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>>> Incredible - A boat capsizes while sailing under spinnak...<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>>> View on www.youtube.com<https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T1cnbQf9A3M>
>>> Preview by Yahoo
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Sailboat Racing
david dobbs2015-11-02 01:18 UTC
I recently came across some prints that I had taken in 1993 while racing the Chicago-Mackinac race. Erickson 35, but we were a little rough as crew, not as together as we needed to be, plus our spinnaker halyard parted at 2am off Frankfort, Mi. Captain said to hoist the #1, we'll deal with the halyard when we can see. Next morning Greg, the Captain's son, goes up the mast and retrieved the halyard, and we raise the chute again. Rules on the boat are crew safety first, then boat safety, then the race. We finished 6 minutes behind the 3rd place boat that year, 333 mile race, and we all knew we could have done better. If you want to know how much better it got for the boat just go to the Chicago Yacht Club website.David Dobbs, Cal29 411
Sailboat Racing
Michael D2016-02-02 15:22 UTC
All,
My wife and I will be crewing on Sempre Amantes, a Hunter Passage 42. Fifty-five entries total. Start time 1300 2/10. SPOT tracking will be in place. Details at the link below.
2016 Miami to Havana Race
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| 2016 Miami to Havana RaceWelcome to the Inaugural Miami to Havana Race! |
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Michael
RE: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
TomDressler2016-02-02 15:49 UTC
That sounds like fun!!
Congratulations on getting back into that event!
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Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 7:23 AM
To: Cal_Boats
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
All,
My wife and I will be crewing on Sempre Amantes, a Hunter Passage 42. Fifty-five entries total. Start time 1300 2/10. SPOT tracking will be in place. Details at the link below.
2016 Miami to Havana Race <http://havanarace.org/index.html>
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Welcome to the Inaugural Miami to Havana Race!
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Michael D2016-02-17 15:28 UTC
All,
Brenda and I are home. 500 miles in a week.... We didn't place, but we had a great time visiting Havana. Go if you get the chance.
Michael
From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
To: Cal_Boats <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:22 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
All,
My wife and I will be crewing on Sempre Amantes, a Hunter Passage 42. Fifty-five entries total. Start time 1300 2/10. SPOT tracking will be in place. Details at the link below.
2016 Miami to Havana Race
| |
| | | | | | | |
| 2016 Miami to Havana RaceWelcome to the Inaugural Miami to Havana Race! |
| |
| View on havanarace.org | Preview by Yahoo |
| |
| |
Michael
Sailboat Racing
david dobbs2016-09-04 02:28 UTC
Folks,Tomorrow I get to have my race committee baptism by fire. 55 mile race from St. Joe, Mi. to Chicago, 70 plus boats entered, we get to finish them. I'm in charge for the first time I know, the finish is the easy part, except when 4 boats come roaring to the finish, and it always happens. Never been in charge before, wish me luck.David Dobbs, CAL29 411
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Fred Haas2016-09-04 16:13 UTC
It’ll be great. You’ll see.
Fred Haas
3-30 Nemesis
Tacoma
On Sep 3, 2016, at 7:28 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Folks,
> Tomorrow I get to have my race committee baptism by fire. 55 mile race from St. Joe, Mi. to Chicago, 70 plus boats entered, we get to finish them. I'm in charge for the first time I know, the finish is the easy part, except when 4 boats come roaring to the finish, and it always happens. Never been in charge before, wish me luck.
> David Dobbs, CAL29 411
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Edward Stancil2016-09-04 20:04 UTC
Do you finish when :
1. Tip of Bow crosses ?
2. Any. Part pulpit ?
3. Stearn ?
4. Mast ?
5. Spinaker ?
6. When race committee gives
You your time.
Edward
On Sep 3, 2016 7:39 PM, "david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <
Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Folks,
> Tomorrow I get to have my race committee baptism by fire. 55 mile race
> from St. Joe, Mi. to Chicago, 70 plus boats entered, we get to finish them.
> I'm in charge for the first time I know, the finish is the easy part,
> except when 4 boats come roaring to the finish, and it always happens.
> Never been in charge before, wish me luck.
> David Dobbs, CAL29 411
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Charlie Husar2016-09-05 00:58 UTC
When any part of the boat in normal positions (or sails and stuff and pulpit) crosses the line. If you back across, that is fine.
Take Care
Charlie
Annapolis
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 4:04 PM
To: david dobbs <tm… [at] yahoo.com>; ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
Do you finish when :
1. Tip of Bow crosses ?
2. Any. Part pulpit ?
3. Stearn ?
4. Mast ?
5. Spinaker ?
6. When race committee gives
You your time.
Edward
On Sep 3, 2016 7:39 PM, "david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:tm… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote:
Folks,
Tomorrow I get to have my race committee baptism by fire. 55 mile race from St. Joe, Mi. to Chicago, 70 plus boats entered, we get to finish them. I'm in charge for the first time I know, the finish is the easy part, except when 4 boats come roaring to the finish, and it always happens. Never been in charge before, wish me luck.
David Dobbs, CAL29 411
Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
GEORGE BARLOW2016-09-05 13:12 UTC
On Charlie’s post, “normal” means that on a downwind finish, for example, you could not let the sheets fly on your spinnaker and finish ahead of a boat that was ahead of you trimmed “normally”.
I strongly recommend that any sailor participating in racing activities join US Sailing and get the “Racing Rules of Sailing” for free and spend some time on a race committee to observe racing starts and finishes and learn the rules.
George B.
> On Sep 4, 2016, at 7:58 PM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>]
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 4:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Sailboat Racing
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> Do you finish when :
> 1. Tip of Bow crosses ?
> 2. Any. Part pulpit ?
> 3. Stearn ?
> 4. Mast ?
> 5. Spinaker ?
> 6. When race committee gives
> You your time.
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> Edward
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> On Sep 3, 2016 7:39 PM, "david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:tm… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
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>> Folks,
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>> Tomorrow I get to have my race committee baptism by fire. 55 mile race from St. Joe, Mi. to Chicago, 70 plus boats entered, we get to finish them. I'm in charge for the first time I know, the finish is the easy part, except when 4 boats come roaring to the finish, and it always happens. Never been in charge before, wish me luck.
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>> David Dobbs, CAL29 411
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