Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222

SEALS SPARS in California (I suspect that was the source that you found for CAL 20 parts) will have the boom, I think the 20 and 21 used virtually the same boom, but Steve Seals will know and if different will know to make the right one. That said, any local spar maker can build you a new boom, or maybe a local marine consignment/used boat parts dealer might have something close enough. If you need the dimensions, I have a copy of the CAL 21 sailplan, and I think that has the spar specifications.... I'll look and see. Oh, and any other CAL 21 questions you may have....... I can do my best to answer (37 years of CAL 21 experience) Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21, #285 On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 11:45:36 +0000 (UTC) "rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Robert Larose 1972 21ft Cal Hull#222 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Do These Objects Prove Time Travel Exists? mozotravel.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/584e27d9f057b27d916b2st03duc

CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper. You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html Take Care Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner. Jerry of Shpritz On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut? Thanks everyone, Chris Santa Cruz �--o-O-o--� On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220 Sarah Palin's Wardrobe Malfunction Was Unfortunate hooch.net http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/584f84f54dc8d4f45a78st04duc

If memory serves (and it may no longer), I heard stories of the economies that Jack Jensen was trying to achieve on early production boats for the masses. One is that he changed the spec for the “dreaded beam” from stainless steel to galvanized (to the chagrin of Bill Lapworth). Another was that the boom section on larger Cals (maybe even the Cal 25) was the same cross section as the mast of the Cal 20. Don’t know if this would help as you scale down, or be a useful piece of info for a 21. There could be parts that match from other Cal models. One more item. If that 21 had one of those roll-em-up booms for main reefing, forget it. That was quite a useless piece of gear. Use regular end caps. Also, use of the modern loose-footed mains can simplify the boom further. Still hope you find an original replacement to save some of the grief. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: rj… [at] juno.com [mailto:rj… [at] juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; hu… [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > writes: I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper. You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html Take Care Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 _____ From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:so… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> " <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ch… [at] yahoo.com> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner. Jerry of Shpritz On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ch… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut? Thanks everyone, Chris Santa Cruz ‘--o-O-o--’ On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org <mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:la… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220 <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc> 3 Signs You May Have a Fatty Liver [Watch] livecellresearch.com <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc

Jeez! That boom's gonna cost more than a "new" Cal. What about building your own out of Sitka Spruce? If it's good enuff for the main spar of a a high performance 200MPH Bellanca Viking, it's probably good enuff for a Cal 31 boom.Jerry of Shpritz. On Monday, December 12, 2016 10:16 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: If memory serves (and it may no longer), I heard stories of the economies that Jack Jensen was trying to achieve on early production boats for the masses. One is that he changed the spec for the “dreaded beam” from stainless steel to galvanized (to the chagrin of Bill Lapworth). Another was that the boom section on larger Cals (maybe even the Cal 25) was the same cross section as the mast of the Cal 20. Don’t know if this would help as you scale down, or be a useful piece of info for a 21. There could be parts that match from other Cal models. One more item. If that 21 had one of those roll-em-up booms for main reefing, forget it. That was quite a useless piece of gear. Use regular end caps. Also, use of the modern loose-footed mains can simplify the boom further. Still hope you find an original replacement to save some of the grief. Take CareCharlieAnnapolis From: rj… [at] juno.com [mailto:rj… [at] juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; hu… [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. Rod JohnsonFormer co-owner of "NODROG"1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper.You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.htmlTake CareCharlieAnnapolisCal 25 and Cal 40From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length....Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner.Jerry of ShpritzOn Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut?Thanks everyone,ChrisSanta Cruz ‘--o-O-o--’On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220 3 Signs You May Have a Fatty Liver [Watch] livecellresearch.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc

Charlie, I had the same experience, I replaced my boom on my Cal 29 with a new boom. The boom price 900.00. From San Fransico to LA was 500.00 shipping. Trish and I could of drove up, saw some friends, had dinner, spent the night and drove home. Randy Cal 2 29Out Patient Channel Islands Ca -------- Original message --------From: "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: 12/12/16 5:39 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, 'Brian Lavis' <bl… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper. You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html Take CareCharlieAnnapolisCal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner.Jerry of Shpritz On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut? Thanks everyone, ChrisSanta Cruz ‘--o-O-o--’ On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220

These days booms don't do much. People use loose footed sails and use straps to attach the clew and mainsheet blocks. Of course, you need a gooseneck but what about just getting some round aluminum tubing and making one out of that? Make it a little longer so you can attach a cheek block for the outhaul. On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#m_3585006725981967067_TopText> from Gerald Sobel > included below] > > Jeez! That boom's gonna cost more than a "new" Cal. What about building > your own out of Sitka Spruce? If it's good enuff for the main spar of a a > high performance 200MPH Bellanca Viking, it's probably good enuff for a Cal > 31 boom. > Jerry of Shpritz. > > > On Monday, December 12, 2016 10:16 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > If memory serves (and it may no longer), I heard stories of the economies > that Jack Jensen was trying to achieve on early production boats for the > masses. One is that he changed the spec for the “dreaded beam” from > stainless steel to galvanized (to the chagrin of Bill Lapworth). > > Another was that the boom section on larger Cals (maybe even the Cal 25) > was the same cross section as the mast of the Cal 20. Don’t know if this > would help as you scale down, or be a useful piece of info for a 21. There > could be parts that match from other Cal models. > > One more item. If that 21 had one of those roll-em-up booms for main > reefing, forget it. That was quite a useless piece of gear. Use regular > end caps. Also, use of the modern loose-footed mains can simplify the boom > further. Still hope you find an original replacement to save some of the > grief. > > Take Care > Charlie > Annapolis > > *From:* rj… [at] juno.com [mailto:rj… [at] juno.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:13 AM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; hu… [at] gmail.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 > > CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. > > Rod Johnson > Former co-owner of "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: > > > I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a > Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close > to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet > which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a > trailer-truck type shipper. > You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used > stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. > > > http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html > Take Care > Charlie > Annapolis > Cal 25 and Cal 40 > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 > > > > > Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms > (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are > pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you > could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might > have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... > Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... > We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Chris < > ch… [at] yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 > > There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San > Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, > try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you > to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't > know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a > reply our site from an actual owner. > Jerry of Shpritz > On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone > replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone > have such a strut? > Thanks everyone, > Chris > Santa Cruz > ‘--o-O-o--’ > On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a > very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us > the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a > place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this > boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom > for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a > site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read > somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, > love this group and thank you for any help provided. > > > Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get > sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. > > Chris Campbell > Cal 20 #1220 > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *3 Signs You May Have a Fatty Liver [Watch]* > livecellresearch.com > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc > [image: Image removed by sender. SponsoredBy Content.Ad] > > > >

CAL 21 and CAL 20 boom was the same size extrusion as the mast as Far as I can tell, like Charlie I have to admit......If my memory is correct. Rod Johnson On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 01:08:35 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: If memory serves (and it may no longer), I heard stories of the economies that Jack Jensen was trying to achieve on early production boats for the masses. One is that he changed the spec for the �dreaded beam� from stainless steel to galvanized (to the chagrin of Bill Lapworth). Another was that the boom section on larger Cals (maybe even the Cal 25) was the same cross section as the mast of the Cal 20. Don�t know if this would help as you scale down, or be a useful piece of info for a 21. There could be parts that match from other Cal models. One more item. If that 21 had one of those roll-em-up booms for main reefing, forget it. That was quite a useless piece of gear. Use regular end caps. Also, use of the modern loose-footed mains can simplify the boom further. Still hope you find an original replacement to save some of the grief. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: rj… [at] juno.com [mailto:rj… [at] juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; hu… [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper. You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html Take Care Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner. Jerry of Shpritz On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut? Thanks everyone, Chris Santa Cruz �--o-O-o--� On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220 3 Signs You May Have a Fatty Liver [Watch] livecellresearch.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc

Allen, the boom can't be much longer than stock or it will hit the backstay. As far as allowing room for a cheek block for the outhaul, might be different for a loose-footed sail, but there is already plenty of room for a cheek block to add to the outhaul if using the original boltrope foot. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 07:12:15 -0800 "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: These days booms don't do much. People use loose footed sails and use straps to attach the clew and mainsheet blocks. Of course, you need a gooseneck but what about just getting some round aluminum tubing and making one out of that? Make it a little longer so you can attach a cheek block for the outhaul. On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Gerald Sobel included below] Jeez! That boom's gonna cost more than a "new" Cal. What about building your own out of Sitka Spruce? If it's good enuff for the main spar of a a high performance 200MPH Bellanca Viking, it's probably good enuff for a Cal 31 boom. Jerry of Shpritz. On Monday, December 12, 2016 10:16 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: If memory serves (and it may no longer), I heard stories of the economies that Jack Jensen was trying to achieve on early production boats for the masses. One is that he changed the spec for the �dreaded beam� from stainless steel to galvanized (to the chagrin of Bill Lapworth). Another was that the boom section on larger Cals (maybe even the Cal 25) was the same cross section as the mast of the Cal 20. Don�t know if this would help as you scale down, or be a useful piece of info for a 21. There could be parts that match from other Cal models. One more item. If that 21 had one of those roll-em-up booms for main reefing, forget it. That was quite a useless piece of gear. Use regular end caps. Also, use of the modern loose-footed mains can simplify the boom further. Still hope you find an original replacement to save some of the grief. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: rj… [at] juno.com [mailto:rj… [at] juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; hu… [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper. You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html Take Care Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner. Jerry of Shpritz On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut? Thanks everyone, Chris Santa Cruz �--o-O-o--� On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220 3 Signs You May Have a Fatty Liver [Watch] livecellresearch.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $14.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216

where are you located??? Best Regards, George Macon From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:34 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; al… [at] gmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222  Allen, the boom can't be much longer than stock or it will hit the backstay. As far as allowing room for a cheek block for the outhaul, might be different for a loose-footed sail, but there is already plenty of room for a cheek block to add to the outhaul if using the original boltrope foot. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 07:12:15 -0800 "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com<mailto:al… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> writes: These days booms don't do much. People use loose footed sails and use straps to attach the clew and mainsheet blocks. Of course, you need a gooseneck but what about just getting some round aluminum tubing and making one out of that? Make it a little longer so you can attach a cheek block for the outhaul. On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:so… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Gerald Sobel included below] Jeez! That boom's gonna cost more than a "new" Cal. What about building your own out of Sitka Spruce? If it's good enuff for the main spar of a a high performance 200MPH Bellanca Viking, it's probably good enuff for a Cal 31 boom. Jerry of Shpritz. On Monday, December 12, 2016 10:16 PM, "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: If memory serves (and it may no longer), I heard stories of the economies that Jack Jensen was trying to achieve on early production boats for the masses. One is that he changed the spec for the “dreaded beam” from stainless steel to galvanized (to the chagrin of Bill Lapworth). Another was that the boom section on larger Cals (maybe even the Cal 25) was the same cross section as the mast of the Cal 20. Don’t know if this would help as you scale down, or be a useful piece of info for a 21. There could be parts that match from other Cal models. One more item. If that 21 had one of those roll-em-up booms for main reefing, forget it. That was quite a useless piece of gear. Use regular end caps. Also, use of the modern loose-footed mains can simplify the boom further. Still hope you find an original replacement to save some of the grief. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: rj… [at] juno.com<mailto:rj… [at] juno.com> [mailto:rj… [at] juno.com<mailto:rj… [at] juno.com>] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 CAL 21 Boom is 8'6" if I recall. Rod Johnson Former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 12 Dec 2016 20:39:03 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> writes: I will second the vote on the cost of shipping. When a got a boom for a Cal 25 from Rig-Rite, the boom was around $500 and the shipping was close to $500 (Rhode Island to Maryland). Of course, the boom was over 11 feet which violated some rule of UPS (9 feet) and others. Had to come in from a trailer-truck type shipper. You might try Rig-Rite. They have a variety of sections, but not used stuff. The web site can be a bit hard to navigate. http://www.rigrite.com/A-Main/spar_M.html Take Care Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:27 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:so… [at] yahoo.com>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 Shipping a long boom to Canada has got to be expensive. The Cal 20 booms (sorry I don't know about Cal 21's but knowing Cal it's the same part) are pretty generic. Not too many Cal's up North from what I hear. I bet you could take a boom from a similar size boat, like a J-24, and use it. Might have to drill out some pop rivets and adjust the length.... Sorry, we don't have any spare Cal 20 booms.... We (Sea Scouts LA) have Six Cal 20's, Cal 25, Cal 30 From: "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:so… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>>; Chris <ch… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:ch… [at] yahoo.com>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 There are some sailboat junkyards in the Long Beach-Huntington Beach-San Pedro Beach area that may have a suitable Boom for you. You can Google, or, try looking up Minney's or Jib Kelly's and they might be able to refer you to the right source. Don't forget to tell them what length; if you don't know you can look that up, possibly on Sailboatdata.com, possibly from a reply our site from an actual owner. Jerry of Shpritz On Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 AM, "Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:ch… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: A while back I was looking for a prop strut for a Cal 31. Someone replied, but I can't find it now. Are you still out there, or does someone have such a strut? Thanks everyone, Chris Santa Cruz ‘--o-O-o--’ On Monday, December 12, 2016 7:07 AM, "ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: On 12/11/2016 6:45 AM, rob la la… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:la… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: Well after going over this boat we have realized that we are missing a very important part to this little boat. It seems the person that gave us the boat somehow lost the Boom for this sailboat. Does anyone know of a place that I could get either a second hand boom or a new boom for this boat? Some restrictions are that I do live in Canada but we can find a Boom for this boat in am willing to pay to have it delivered to me. I was on a site that have cal sailboat parts but only for the 20ft calls. I did read somewhere I think that the 20ft cal boom would fit the 21ft cal. Anyways, love this group and thank you for any help provided. Congratulations on saving a small Cal. My theory is that small boats get sailed more than big ones so they make our lives happier. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220 3 Signs You May Have a Fatty Liver [Watch] livecellresearch.com <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc>http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/584f84f556e264f45303st03duc [Image removed by sender. SponsoredBy Content.Ad] Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $14.95 per month! <http://www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216>www.netzero.net<http://www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216>

I like the DIY idea from Jerry & Allen. Especially if (as I assume) the 21 used boom-end sheeting. Booms don't have to be all that strong unless you've got trendy mid-boom sheeting. Mid-boom would not have worked for roller reefing, which was trendy in the 21's day. Neither trend had that much to recommend it, especially roller reefing (didn't anybody notice that sails aren't flat like window shades?). Lumber-yard spruce ought to work, or an aluminum extrusion from a small-boat mast. Chris Campbell

A few items on the booms. On my Cal 25s I was able to extend the boom length by 3-4 inches with no backstay problem. That gave me room to mount a nice outhaul block back there. I run all lines external to the boom and mast, since I like to be able to see and fix a problem. Internal lines and blocking arrangements do not afford this "luxury". On the 25s, I mount a 4-1 outhaul controller between the boom and mast base that connects to a line from the outhaul block at the back of the mast. I can show pictures. A thought on the Cal 21 boom. The Cal 20 boom is for a 10 foot "E" (main foot length). the Cal 21 boom is for an 8.5 foot E. Cal 20s are more common than 21s (probably more in the junkyards). Get a 20 boom and remove the end cap. Cut off a foot and a half (or a little less for whatever fits), and reinstall the end cap. Not sure if the boom attachments on the mast are the same. Just a thought. Cheers Charlie Windy Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:35 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 I like the DIY idea from Jerry & Allen. Especially if (as I assume) the 21 used boom-end sheeting. Booms don't have to be all that strong unless you've got trendy mid-boom sheeting. Mid-boom would not have worked for roller reefing, which was trendy in the 21's day. Neither trend had that much to recommend it, especially roller reefing (didn't anybody notice that sails aren't flat like window shades?). Lumber-yard spruce ought to work, or an aluminum extrusion from a small-boat mast. Chris Campbell ------------------------------------ Posted by: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links

Charlie, I am almost 100% certain that the CAL 20 and 21 used the same gooseneck slider, and I believe that Steve Seals sells the parts as fitting both boats. I found a drawing that my Dad made of our boom, the CAL 21 boom uses a 100.5" length of extrusion. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 former co-owner of "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:43:19 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: A few items on the booms. On my Cal 25s I was able to extend the boom length by 3-4 inches with no backstay problem. That gave me room to mount a nice outhaul block back there. I run all lines external to the boom and mast, since I like to be able to see and fix a problem. Internal lines and blocking arrangements do not afford this "luxury". On the 25s, I mount a 4-1 outhaul controller between the boom and mast base that connects to a line from the outhaul block at the back of the mast. I can show pictures. A thought on the Cal 21 boom. The Cal 20 boom is for a 10 foot "E" (main foot length). the Cal 21 boom is for an 8.5 foot E. Cal 20s are more common than 21s (probably more in the junkyards). Get a 20 boom and remove the end cap. Cut off a foot and a half (or a little less for whatever fits), and reinstall the end cap. Not sure if the boom attachments on the mast are the same. Just a thought. Cheers Charlie Windy Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:35 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 I like the DIY idea from Jerry & Allen. Especially if (as I assume) the 21 used boom-end sheeting. Booms don't have to be all that strong unless you've got trendy mid-boom sheeting. Mid-boom would not have worked for roller reefing, which was trendy in the 21's day. Neither trend had that much to recommend it, especially roller reefing (didn't anybody notice that sails aren't flat like window shades?). Lumber-yard spruce ought to work, or an aluminum extrusion from a small-boat mast. Chris Campbell ------------------------------------ Posted by: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links

Thanks Rod and everyone else who has responded to this post some great information and great ideas. ThanksRobert Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 5:54 PM, rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from rj… [at] juno.com included below]  Charlie,I am almost 100% certain that the CAL 20 and 21 used the same gooseneck slider, and I believe that Steve Seals sells the parts as fitting both boats.I found a drawing that my Dad made of our boom, the CAL 21 boom uses a 100.5" length of extrusion. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD"1979 O'DAY DS II #10201former co-owner of "NODROG"1970 CAL 21 #285 On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:43:19 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: A few items on the booms. On my Cal 25s I was able to extend the boom length by 3-4 inches with no backstay problem. That gave me room to mount a nice outhaul block back there. I run all lines external to the boom and mast, since I like to be able to see and fix a problem. Internal lines and blocking arrangements do not afford this "luxury". On the 25s, I mount a 4-1 outhaul controller between the boom and mast base that connects to a line from the outhaul block at the back of the mast. I can show pictures. A thought on the Cal 21 boom. The Cal 20 boom is for a 10 foot "E" (main foot length). the Cal 21 boom is for an 8.5 foot E. Cal 20s are more common than 21s (probably more in the junkyards). Get a 20 boom and remove the end cap. Cut off a foot and a half (or a little less for whatever fits), and reinstall the end cap. Not sure if the boom attachments on the mast are the same. Just a thought. Cheers Charlie Windy Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:35 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 1972 Cal21ft hull#222 I like the DIY idea from Jerry & Allen. Especially if (as I assume) the 21 used boom-end sheeting. Booms don't have to be all that strong unless you've got trendy mid-boom sheeting. Mid-boom would not have worked for roller reefing, which was trendy in the 21's day. Neither trend had that much to recommend it, especially roller reefing (didn't anybody notice that sails aren't flat like window shades?). Lumber-yard spruce ought to work, or an aluminum extrusion from a small-boat mast. Chris Campbell ------------------------------------ Posted by: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links