4 messages2016-12-30 20:53 UTCthrough 2016-12-30 23:29 UTC
Engine/prop shaft alignment question
TD2016-12-30 20:53 UTC
Hello,
Engine in, wiring connected, some new fuel and water lines and batteries on charger.
While i'm waiting for that, i began the arduous chore of aligning the engine with the prop shaft.
Engine and shaft are both rubber mounted.
My question: the manual says .008 planar runout is the spec. I'm at .012 and am challenged to get it closer, even after moving engine around on stringers.
If the rest is rubber mounted, and i can manually shake/deflect it by more than that, is .008 a little precise...for a rubber mounted system?
Wont natural centrifugal motion align it? Or can then expect those buashings to tear themaelves up?
Thanks.
...tom
Re: [Cal_Boats] Engine/prop shaft alignment question
Allen Edwards2016-12-30 21:34 UTC
My engine is hard mounted so I don't have the rubber mounts. The
specification is that I cannot insert a .003 feeler gauge in any gap on the
flange. I think you are getting credit for the rubber mounts in the .008
spec.
What I had to do was measure the alignment horizontal, vertical, and tilt
and then model it with a 3-d drawing and then move the engine in the cad
program and see what shims I needed to get it where it should be.
Alternatively, you can just add a shim and see if it helps or hurts and
keep doing that until you are better than .008.
Maybe someone else can answer the question you actually asked...
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:53 PM, TD tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats] <
Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
> Engine in, wiring connected, some new fuel and water lines and batteries
> on charger.
> While i'm waiting for that, i began the arduous chore of aligning the
> engine with the prop shaft.
> Engine and shaft are both rubber mounted.
> My question: the manual says .008 planar runout is the spec. I'm at .012
> and am challenged to get it closer, even after moving engine around on
> stringers.
> If the rest is rubber mounted, and i can manually shake/deflect it by more
> than that, is .008 a little precise...for a rubber mounted system?
> Wont natural centrifugal motion align it? Or can then expect those
> buashings to tear themaelves up?
>
> Thanks.
> ...tom
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Engine/prop shaft alignment question
Edward Stancil2016-12-30 23:15 UTC
Tom .003 is the setting that I use
Sometimes you have to noch the mount
To get to the tollrence..if you mount is not
New or oil soaked. .you need new one..s
008 will work for a time but is hard
On cutlass bering. And you can score
Shaft..it seem 's like it's close try
Resort torking. Mounts to bed
Then you can shim mount 's to block..
A professional know 's all the tricks
Some time 's you have to cut an ear
Of the mount..on Caliente I messed
With it two days then had a Professional
Help.. he said where are old mount 's
He found one that had ear grounddown.
Popped that out ground conner off
He was done in 20 30 mints..
I also seen people who bolt cupping
Together then put mount blots in
Take cupping apart and check it..
If your mount s are. Bad or if Shaft log
Is not in line with (our s had been
Re glasses at 5° angle..and with new mounts
Would knot come into range..)
I know it's hard to see and you move
One thing but it doesn't change
The way you need it to..
Good luck ..patients and preservance.
Also I use a mirror and a single long
Gauge. .Edward
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016, 4:34 PM Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com
[Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> My engine is hard mounted so I don't have the rubber mounts. The
> specification is that I cannot insert a .003 feeler gauge in any gap on the
> flange. I think you are getting credit for the rubber mounts in the .008
> spec.
>
> What I had to do was measure the alignment horizontal, vertical, and tilt
> and then model it with a 3-d drawing and then move the engine in the cad
> program and see what shims I needed to get it where it should be.
> Alternatively, you can just add a shim and see if it helps or hurts and
> keep doing that until you are better than .008.
>
> Maybe someone else can answer the question you actually asked...
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:53 PM, TD tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats] <
> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
> Engine in, wiring connected, some new fuel and water lines and batteries
> on charger.
> While i'm waiting for that, i began the arduous chore of aligning the
> engine with the prop shaft.
> Engine and shaft are both rubber mounted.
> My question: the manual says .008 planar runout is the spec. I'm at .012
> and am challenged to get it closer, even after moving engine around on
> stringers.
> If the rest is rubber mounted, and i can manually shake/deflect it by more
> than that, is .008 a little precise...for a rubber mounted system?
> Wont natural centrifugal motion align it? Or can then expect those
> buashings to tear themaelves up?
>
> Thanks.
> ...tom
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Engine/prop shaft alignment question
Edward Stancil2016-12-30 23:29 UTC
HI Tom if you have a rubber coupling
Does it have 6 bolts 3that go in engine
Side and 3 that coming from Shaft
Side...I believe that they areally
"Self aligning " coupling...
Have seen on farymen. ..
Edward.
On Dec 30, 2016 3:53 PM, "TD tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" <
Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello,
Engine in, wiring connected, some new fuel and water lines and batteries on
charger.
While i'm waiting for that, i began the arduous chore of aligning the
engine with the prop shaft.
Engine and shaft are both rubber mounted.
My question: the manual says .008 planar runout is the spec. I'm at .012
and am challenged to get it closer, even after moving engine around on
stringers.
If the rest is rubber mounted, and i can manually shake/deflect it by more
than that, is .008 a little precise...for a rubber mounted system?
Wont natural centrifugal motion align it? Or can then expect those
buashings to tear themaelves up?
Thanks.
...tom