Teak and Holly sole in Cal 33-2

I need to replace my cabin sole in my 1986 Cal 33-2. I think existing plywood is 1/4" thick. I am contemplating going back with 3/8" thick teak and holly plywood. Anyone know, will 3/8" thickness cause me any fit problems? I am thinking 1/8" thicker shouldn't cause a problem. I found a website with a reasonable price for the plywood. After some measuring it looks like I need more than one sheet, no more than two. Thanks for any input. Leslie Newman Puffin Cal 33-2 in Va

I don’t know off hand what the original is. IF it is ¼ and you go with 3/8, the only things I can think of are: 1. The sole butts up against the pan around the edges. You might have to route a border on the underside around the edge to eliminate the sole being higher than the surrounding glass. 2. The table support will be a tight fit, and may cause stress on the cabin overhead. You could solve this by routing out a recess for the base plate. Al Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:07 PM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Teak and Holly sole in Cal 33-2 I need to replace my cabin sole in my 1986 Cal 33-2. I think existing plywood is 1/4" thick. I am contemplating going back with 3/8" thick teak and holly plywood. Anyone know, will 3/8" thickness cause me any fit problems? I am thinking 1/8" thicker shouldn't cause a problem. I found a website with a reasonable price for the plywood. After some measuring it looks like I need more than one sheet, no more than two. Thanks for any input. Leslie Newman Puffin Cal 33-2 in Va

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Al, Thanks. Table support is held above with a ring pin through upper bracket and pole. I feel I can modify to handle the added floor height. Pan is another story. I am a little concerned that the plywood might not look right. But as memory serves the stern area is where it might be an issue. Along both sides the plywood butts against tall sides. An on bow side as well. I was hoping another 33-2 owner had replaced their sole and had experience to share. May end up I'll have some in a few more weeks as the weather is warming and I want to get started so we're ready to go back in the water early spring. Leslie On Monday, February 20, 2017, aw… [at] bellsouth.net [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#m_-6240988572749485857_TopText> from > aw… [at] bellsouth.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','aw… [at] bellsouth.net');> included below] > > I don’t know off hand what the original is. IF it is ¼ and you go with > 3/8, the only things I can think of are: > > 1. The sole butts up against the pan around the edges. You might have > to route a border on the underside around the edge to eliminate the sole > being higher than the surrounding glass. > 2. The table support will be a tight fit, and may cause stress on the > cabin overhead. You could solve this by routing out a recess for the base > plate. > > Al > > > > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > > > *From: *NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');> > *Sent: *Monday, February 20, 2017 5:07 PM > *To: *ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');> > *Subject: *[Cal_Boats] Teak and Holly sole in Cal 33-2 > > > > > > I need to replace my cabin sole in my 1986 Cal 33-2. I think existing > plywood is 1/4" thick. I am contemplating going back with 3/8" thick teak > and holly plywood. > > Anyone know, will 3/8" thickness cause me any fit problems? I am thinking > 1/8" thicker shouldn't cause a problem. I found a website with a reasonable > price for the plywood. After some measuring it looks like I need more than > one sheet, no more than two. > > Thanks for any input. > > Leslie Newman > > Puffin Cal 33-2 > > in Va > > > > > > >

Greg, Thanks. I don't mind the labor of going back with the same I'll remove. Looks like $218 is the going rate for 4x8 sheet of teak & holly. Other place I found (homestead ) was about same price. Shipping is killer as well. Leslie On Monday, February 20, 2017, Greg Beron <gb… [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > I haven't tried any of these, but they might fit your needs since they > give a teak and holly appearance in the correct thickness:World Panel > Products: Marine Plywood & Teak > <http://www.worldpanel.com/cabin-sole-options> > > World Panel Products: Marine Plywood & Teak > > <http://www.worldpanel.com/cabin-sole-options> > > Greg Beron > Cal 29 Happy Hour > > > On Monday, February 20, 2017, 2:06 PM, NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d2… [at] gmail.com');> [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>> wrote: > > > > I need to replace my cabin sole in my 1986 Cal 33-2. I think existing > plywood is 1/4" thick. I am contemplating going back with 3/8" thick teak > and holly plywood. > Anyone know, will 3/8" thickness cause me any fit problems? I am thinking > 1/8" thicker shouldn't cause a problem. I found a website with a reasonable > price for the plywood. After some measuring it looks like I need more than > one sheet, no more than two. > Thanks for any input. > Leslie Newman > Puffin Cal 33-2 > in Va > > > >

The broker convinced the PO he should replace the teak and holly sole prior to the sell. So, I do not know the original thickness of the sole. I always assumed the replacement was thinner than the original due to the gap at the galley cabinet. All other perimeter is resting on a ledge from the fiberglass hull liner. The carpenter put solid teak around the bilge access. I am not certain, but if I recall correctly, I thought it was 3/8"-1/2" thickness. 1/4" seams too thin for the spans. John Raxter 336-210-8073 (m) On Feb 20, 2017, at 5:06 PM, NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I need to replace my cabin sole in my 1986 Cal 33-2. I think existing plywood is 1/4" thick. I am contemplating going back with 3/8" thick teak and holly plywood. Anyone know, will 3/8" thickness cause me any fit problems? I am thinking 1/8" thicker shouldn't cause a problem. I found a website with a reasonable price for the plywood. After some measuring it looks like I need more than one sheet, no more than two. Thanks for any input. Leslie Newman Puffin Cal 33-2 in Va

I agree 1/4" seems too thin, but I am fairly sure mine is that thin. I'm going down to the boat this coming weekend and will measure again. That is why I'm thinking going back with 3/8" if not already. Leslie On Monday, February 20, 2017, Jraxter <jr… [at] triad.rr.com> wrote: > The broker convinced the PO he should replace the teak and holly sole > prior to the sell. So, I do not know the original thickness of the sole. I > always assumed the replacement was thinner than the original due to the gap > at the galley cabinet. All other perimeter is resting on a ledge from the > fiberglass hull liner. > > The carpenter put solid teak around the bilge access. I am not certain, > but if I recall correctly, I thought it was 3/8"-1/2" thickness. 1/4" seams > too thin for the spans. > > John Raxter > 336-210-8073 (m) > > On Feb 20, 2017, at 5:06 PM, NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','d2… [at] gmail.com');> [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>> wrote: > > > > I need to replace my cabin sole in my 1986 Cal 33-2. I think existing > plywood is 1/4" thick. I am contemplating going back with 3/8" thick teak > and holly plywood. > Anyone know, will 3/8" thickness cause me any fit problems? I am thinking > 1/8" thicker shouldn't cause a problem. I found a website with a reasonable > price for the plywood. After some measuring it looks like I need more than > one sheet, no more than two. > Thanks for any input. > Leslie Newman > Puffin Cal 33-2 > in Va > > > >

We replaced the sole on our 1987 33-2 several years ago. I can't find a copy of the order but measuring the leftovers it appears to be 7/16". We purchased 2 4x8' sheets and needed both although there is some left over. 1 sheet would not have done the job. We put 7/16 strips of solid teak between pieces of the ply. Some photos of the project which took about 3 weekends with 2 people working are attached. We coated the ply and solid teak with 3 coats of varnish. It has held up very well but given our pride in the job we keep rugs on a good portion of it. Let us know if we can be of additional help. Jim and Erica P.S. Yep the shipping was pretty steep. On the other hand it would have cost about 4 times as much if we had hired someone to do the project.

Looks like you did a great job, but what is the question here. Travis E. Owen, CPS, FPO, PSS FI The only regrets in life are the risks not taken On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:46 AM, "ge… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from ge… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats] included below] We replaced the sole on our 1987 33-2 several years ago. I can't find a copy of the order but measuring the leftovers it appears to be 7/16". We purchased 2 4x8' sheets and needed both although there is some left over. 1 sheet would not have done the job. We put 7/16 strips of solid teak between pieces of the ply. Some photos of the project which took about 3 weekends with 2 people working are attached. We coated the ply and solid teak with 3 coats of varnish. It has held up very well but given our pride in the job we keep rugs on a good portion of it. Let us know if we can be of additional help. Jim and Erica P.S. Yep the shipping was pretty steep. On the other hand it would have cost about 4 times as much if we had hired someone to do the project.

The question was “what is the original thickness of the sole”. I was on a 1987 Cal 33 today (being surveyed because I will likely buy it). I measured the sole thickness at 7/16”, matching Jim’s observation. -Doug > On Feb 21, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Jonny Walker sw… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Looks like you did a great job, but what is the question here. > > Travis E. Owen, CPS, FPO, PSS FI > > > > The only regrets in life are the risks not taken > > > On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:46 AM, "ge… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > [Attachment(s) from ge… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats] included below] > We replaced the sole on our 1987 33-2 several years ago. I can't find a copy of the order but measuring the leftovers it appears to be 7/16". We purchased 2 4x8' sheets and needed both although there is some left over. 1 sheet would not have done the job. > > We put 7/16 strips of solid teak between pieces of the ply. > > Some photos of the project which took about 3 weekends with 2 people working are attached. We coated the ply and solid teak with 3 coats of varnish. It has held up very well but given our pride in the job we keep rugs on a good portion of it. > > Let us know if we can be of additional help. > > Jim and Erica > > P.S. Yep the shipping was pretty steep. On the other hand it would have cost about 4 times as much if we had hired someone to do the project. > > > > >

Thank you very much. I already got a quote from my yard just to see. They quoted me $5000 to replace the sole. Labor and materials. So, it was a no brainer that I was going to do the job. I do appreciate all that info and the pics. I must be mistaken, but my 1986 seems to have very thin plywood. I'll be checking on that this weekend. The pics with the plywood removed will be very helpful. Thanks again. Leslie On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:46 PM, ge… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > We replaced the sole on our 1987 33-2 several years ago. I can't find a > copy of the order but measuring the leftovers it appears to be 7/16". We > purchased 2 4x8' sheets and needed both although there is some left over. > 1 sheet would not have done the job. > > > We put 7/16 strips of solid teak between pieces of the ply. > > > Some photos of the project which took about 3 weekends with 2 people > working are attached. We coated the ply and solid teak with 3 coats of > varnish. It has held up very well but given our pride in the job we keep > rugs on a good portion of it. > > > Let us know if we can be of additional help. > > > Jim and Erica > > > P.S. Yep the shipping was pretty steep. On the other hand it would have > cost about 4 times as much if we had hired someone to do the project. > >