Cal 2-30 Battery Placement

Hi, all- I'm replacing my batteries and wanted to poll fellow Cal 2-30 owners. One bank is a single small battery that goes under the bottom step just below the front of the engine. Since there is such small clearance, what battery do you use? Not sure, but I believe the 2-29 has the same stair setup.

I suggest measure the opening. Go to West Marine and buy the biggest you can fit. If you are not using it for starting, get a deep cycle. ChrisC31Santa Cruz Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 7:02 PM, r_… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, all- I'm replacing my batteries and wanted to poll fellow Cal 2-30 owners. One bank is a single small battery that goes under the bottom step just below the front of the engine. Since there is such small clearance, what battery do you use? Not sure, but I believe the 2-29 has the same stair setup.

Hey Chris, my 2-30 has its battery's under the first compartment of the settee. I don't have a starting battery designated. I have a Deisel Eng though and I added one, so now have three marine house battery's that I can isolate 2vs 1 to save power for starting. Do you has a gas engine? Anything u need I'll be happy to help > On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Chris ch… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I suggest measure the opening. Go to West Marine and buy the biggest you can fit. If you are not using it for starting, get a deep cycle. > > > Chris > C31 > Santa Cruz > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > Hi, all- I'm replacing my batteries and wanted to poll fellow Cal 2-30 owners. One bank is a single small battery that goes under the bottom step just below the front of the engine. Since there is such small clearance, what battery do you use? Not sure, but I believe the 2-29 has the same stair setup. > > > >

I also have a diesel conversion. Two batteries under the aft settee cushion as well. Lots of space. The are under my steps is unused, but I might start thinking about converting it.

A little gouge and a little squawk to me Cal boat maties, When I was in the Navy the first thing I was taught about the barracks was, there ain't know stairs in the building. They's ladders. And they ain't know walls, neither. They's bulkheads. No ceilings, but overheads, and no floors, neither. They's decks. And no bathrooms of course. They's heads.Excuse me nautical jargon. Arrrrghhh!! Jerry of Shpritz On Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:25 PM, "ma… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I also have a diesel conversion. Two batteries under the aft settee cushion as well. Lots of space. The are under my steps is unused, but I might start thinking about converting it. -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv7330209954ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv7330209954ad p {margin:0;} .yiv7330209954ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv7330209954ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv7330209954underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv7330209954attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv7330209954attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv7330209954attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv7330209954attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv7330209954attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv7330209954bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv7330209954bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv7330209954last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv7330209954last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv7330209954last p span.yiv7330209954yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv7330209954attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv7330209954attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv7330209954file-title a, div.yiv7330209954file-title a:active, div.yiv7330209954file-title a:hover, div.yiv7330209954file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv7330209954photo-title a, div.yiv7330209954photo-title a:active, div.yiv7330209954photo-title a:hover, div.yiv7330209954photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv7330209954yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv7330209954green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv7330209954MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv7330209954replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}

Hello everyone,In a couple weeks I plan on sailing my cal 33 from SC to Pensacola in a month. It will be myself and one other guy, both of us are sailing newbies.lol I sailed mine a half dozen times for the day thats about it. Couple questions, Has anyone ever heard of a rudder failure on a cal 33.2 from the mid 80's? We could possibly jump out to the other side of the gulf stream and go south which would put us pretty far out. Matthew,SV Warm Winds86 Cal 33

hey matt ..when you haul out check rudder shaft right were tube goes in to rudder ...also should not be water logged.. there should be NO movement or looseness between rudder and shaft...if ALL good ,..then good to GO ,then go,,, edward ..1967 Cal 36 had to replace rudder ...showed crosion (sp) replace Foss coasta mesa ca, Shumaker design cal 40..rudder edward ,On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:39 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > In a couple weeks I plan on sailing my cal 33 from SC to Pensacola in a > month. It will be myself and one other guy, both of us are sailing > newbies.lol I sailed mine a half dozen times for the day thats about it. > Couple questions, Has anyone ever heard of a rudder failure on a cal 33.2 > from the mid 80's? We could possibly jump out to the other side of the gulf > stream and go south which would put us pretty far out. > > Matthew, > SV Warm Winds > 86 Cal 33 > > >

Hi Matthew, We did the reverse trip, Ft Lauderdale to Myrtle beach in a 40' Leopard last summer. It was a great trip. As I recall, the gulf steam was way too far out in the northern 2/3 of our trip for us to make use of as we planned to make port at least every two days. But if I'm not mistaken (and I well could be as I'm a Great Lakes sailor and only did that one ocean trip) the gulf stream moves north along the east coast and you would have to get somewhere towards the middle of the Atlantic before it starts heading south. As you round the southern tip of Florida it appears to flow east and then becomes chaotic before finally turning north around Ft Myers. Again, I could be way off base here. Good luck and have fun! Bill Pass'n Gas Cal 28 Monroe, Mi

Hello Edward,The thing is I dont plan on hauling it before this trip. When she gets to her new home in the gulf she needs to be hauled and painted soon. I guess I could check for looseness with it in the water. Was planning on leaving in two weeks weather permitting. Bill, thanks for your input, I bet that was a great trip on the Leopard! Ill watch the stream closely the next couple weeks. Would love to go along with it going back north in the gulf! Matthew86 Cal 33 From: "Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC hey matt ..when you haul out check rudder shaft right were tube goes in to rudder ...also should not be water logged..there should be NO movement or looseness between rudder and shaft...if ALL good ,..then good to GO ,then go,,,edward ..1967 Cal 36 had to replace rudder ...showed crosion (sp) replace Foss coasta mesa ca, Shumaker design cal 40..rudder edward,On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 9:39 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello everyone,In a couple weeks I plan on sailing my cal 33 from SC to Pensacola in a month. It will be myself and one other guy, both of us are sailing newbies.lol I sailed mine a half dozen times for the day thats about it. Couple questions, Has anyone ever heard of a rudder failure on a cal 33.2 from the mid 80's? We could possibly jump out to the other side of the gulf stream and go south which would put us pretty far out. Matthew,SV Warm Winds86 Cal 33

In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! Bill Pass'n Gas Cal 28 Monroe, Mi

Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the US. Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 Cheers, Grae Morrison 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 Atlantic Highlands, NJ

You can get most of what you need here http://www.arco-winches.com/products/spares J Boyce Cal 227 #650 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the US. Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 Cheers, Grae Morrison 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 Atlantic Highlands, NJ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links

Arco lists this #01-400Set of 4 x Ratchet Pawls plus 8 x Springsto suit almost all Barlow and Barient winches$38.00 I have dealt with them, bought some bearings and pawls. I don't recall the delivery but as it was a long time ago but I do recall being pleased with the service. West marine lists this: Barient Winch Repair Kit Winch Repair Kit (2 Pawls, 4 Pawl Springs, and 2 Retaining Rings) Model # 164582 | Mfg # PK1 | UPC # 743683404689 In stock online. $25.99 Allen On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:42 AM, 'John Boyce' je… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > You can get most of what you need here > > http://www.arco-winches.com/products/spares > > J Boyce > Cal 227 #650 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:28 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits > > Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the > time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old > Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm > having a little trouble sourcing service kits. > > Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the > kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the > US. > > Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 > > Cheers, > Grae Morrison > 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 > Atlantic Highlands, NJ > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > >

I have bought the little kits at both Fisheries Supply in Seattle and Downwind Marine in San Diego. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Grae Morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and > the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the > old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and > I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. > > Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the > kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the > US. > > Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 > > Cheers, > Grae Morrison > 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 > Atlantic Highlands, NJ > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > >

Yep. Keep them greased and free spinning. Careful, if its your first time disassembling! Sproing! Spalsh! What?! Where did that come from? What was that?! Lots of assembly manuals and of course youtube helps! I did my Barient#10's first time last year...cautiously. Easy-peezy! Yeah, i know..simple, one-speed. And so satisfying to see them spin smoothyl with that click-click...like baseball cards in our bicycle wheels! > On Jan 27, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Arco lists this > > #01-400 > Set of 4 x Ratchet Pawls plus 8 x Springs > to suit almost all Barlow and Barient winches > $38.00 > > I have dealt with them, bought some bearings and pawls. I don't recall the delivery but as it was a long time ago but I do recall being pleased with the service. > > West marine lists this: > > Barient Winch Repair Kit > Winch Repair Kit (2 Pawls, 4 Pawl Springs, and 2 Retaining Rings) > Model # 164582 | Mfg # PK1 | UPC # 743683404689 > In stock online. > $25.99 > > Allen > >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:42 AM, 'John Boyce' je… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> You can get most of what you need here >> >> http://www.arco-winches.com/products/spares >> >> J Boyce >> Cal 227 #650 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:28 AM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits >> >> Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the >> time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old >> Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm >> having a little trouble sourcing service kits. >> >> Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the >> kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the US. >> >> Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 >> >> Cheers, >> Grae Morrison >> 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 >> Atlantic Highlands, NJ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo Groups Links > >

There are Barient manuals on my website. L-36.com Allen On Jan 27, 2017 9:08 AM, "TD tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Yep. > Keep them greased and free spinning. > Careful, if its your first time disassembling! > Sproing! Spalsh! > What?! Where did that come from? What was that?! > Lots of assembly manuals and of course youtube helps! > I did my Barient#10's first time last year...cautiously. Easy-peezy! Yeah, > i know..simple, one-speed. > And so satisfying to see them spin smoothyl with that click-click...like > baseball cards in our bicycle wheels! > > On Jan 27, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Arco lists this > > #01-400Set of 4 x Ratchet Pawls plus 8 x Springsto suit almost all Barlow > and Barient winches$38.00 > I have dealt with them, bought some bearings and pawls. I don't recall > the delivery but as it was a long time ago but I do recall being pleased > with the service. > West marine lists this: > > Barient Winch Repair Kit > Winch Repair Kit (2 Pawls, 4 Pawl Springs, and 2 Retaining Rings) > Model # 164582 | Mfg # PK1 | UPC # 743683404689 > In stock online. > $25.99 > > Allen > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:42 AM, 'John Boyce' je… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> You can get most of what you need here >> >> http://www.arco-winches.com/products/spares >> >> J Boyce >> Cal 227 #650 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:28 AM >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits >> >> Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the >> time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old >> Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm >> having a little trouble sourcing service kits. >> >> Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the >> kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the >> US. >> >> Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 >> >> Cheers, >> Grae Morrison >> 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 >> Atlantic Highlands, NJ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo Groups Links >> >> > >

Don't know about the kits, but a spray or dunk in WD-40 removes the grease beautifully. You might not even need a kit. Disassemble, a good cleaning, a little grease (small amount), and the winches could be just fine. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:28 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the US. Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 Cheers, Grae Morrison 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 Atlantic Highlands, NJ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links

Aye aye, cap'n. Ladders 'neath the companionway, it is! I'm thinking that the PO used that small space because he could fit a very small cranking battery there (which worked almost 7 years). As we all, know, that is unnecessary, so I looked for a deep cycle that would fit there and alas, it does not exist, at least on any nearby shelves and within a reasonable price. So, rather than leave a bank empty and the cables just hanging there. I put another cranking battery there as merely a backup.

Why would you forgo a separate start battery? Does triple A provide service everywhere you cruise? :-) I'm guessing you have a small diesel. I used a U1 sized AGM to start my Yanmar 2QM15 for probably 7 years before I sold the boat. Nice sharp spin, no hesitation, but it sure looked small. Having a separate start battery is good insurance against forgetful brother-in-laws that leave your switches on and run down your batteries. Kris From: "r_… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 2-30 Battery Placement Aye aye, cap'n. Ladders 'neath the companionway, it is! I'm thinking that the PO used that small space because he could fit a very small cranking battery there (which worked almost 7 years). As we all, know, that is unnecessary, so I looked for a deep cycle that would fit there and alas, it does not exist, at least on any nearby shelves and within a reasonable price. So, rather than leave a bank empty and the cables just hanging there. I put another cranking battery there as merely a backup. -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv1152921051ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv1152921051ad p {margin:0;} .yiv1152921051ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv1152921051ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv1152921051underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv1152921051attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv1152921051attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv1152921051attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv1152921051attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv1152921051attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv1152921051bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv1152921051bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv1152921051last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv1152921051last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv1152921051last p span.yiv1152921051yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv1152921051attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv1152921051attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv1152921051file-title a, div.yiv1152921051file-title a:active, div.yiv1152921051file-title a:hover, div.yiv1152921051file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv1152921051photo-title a, div.yiv1152921051photo-title a:active, div.yiv1152921051photo-title a:hover, div.yiv1152921051photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv1152921051yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv1152921051green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv1152921051MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv1152921051replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}

Hi Matthew, Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready:-Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections.-Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded.-Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel.-Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip.-Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard,Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! 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Hi, All. When I do winch service, I get a box (usually a 10 ream size typing paper box), cut a hole in the bottom, and set it over the winch. Box will catch little pieces that want to fly out as you disassemble. Those little pawls and springs make the neatest little “blip!” noise when they hit the water. Also, overgreasing tends to catch and hold the dust and crud, and will make service necessary sooner. Pawls and springs do come in different sizes. Bring the old ones to the store if you want to change them. Some boat stores will have generic batches of these parts, and you can match up. I rarely have to change them. A clean-up is typically sufficient. But maybe while you’re in there… and it’s been a while… oh, well. If the old ones seem undamaged, keep them in the lunchy baggy for a possible future emergency. Once again, WD-40 is salvation for grease removal. Follow with acetone, and you will have a very nice clean set of parts for renewal. I’ve learned everything I know by screwing up a job at least once. I’ve learned that how-to books, when showing a job on a big clean table, never quite match up to hanging in a hatch by your ankles trying to do everything with the two little fingers on your left hand. But then, that is just me. Cheers Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:57 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Grae Morrison <gr… [at] gtmorrison.net> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits I have bought the little kits at both Fisheries Supply in Seattle and Downwind Marine in San Diego. On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Grae Morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net <mailto:gr… [at] gtmorrison.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the US. Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 Cheers, Grae Morrison 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 Atlantic Highlands, NJ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links

Ok Charlie..i started reading this post, as i do with most of yours..with an interst in learning something. What's he got to say today that i can learn from. Actually most of the posts in this group fall into that category..so thank you all. Anyway, i ended by actually..LoL! Thanks for the morning chuckle and visual. Since i tore my rotator cuff and bicep in August reacing under the cockpit of mine...i am familiar with those acrobatics! ...tom > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, All. When I do winch service, I get a box (usually a 10 ream size typing paper box), cut a hole in the bottom, and set it over the winch. Box will catch little pieces that want to fly out as you disassemble. Those little pawls and springs make the neatest little “blip!” noise when they hit the water. > > > > Also, overgreasing tends to catch and hold the dust and crud, and will make service necessary sooner. > > > > Pawls and springs do come in different sizes. Bring the old ones to the store if you want to change them. Some boat stores will have generic batches of these parts, and you can match up. I rarely have to change them. A clean-up is typically sufficient. But maybe while you’re in there… and it’s been a while… oh, well. If the old ones seem undamaged, keep them in the lunchy baggy for a possible future emergency. > > > > Once again, WD-40 is salvation for grease removal. Follow with acetone, and you will have a very nice clean set of parts for renewal. > > > > I’ve learned everything I know by screwing up a job at least once. I’ve learned that how-to books, when showing a job on a big clean table, never quite match up to hanging in a hatch by your ankles trying to do everything with the two little fingers on your left hand. But then, that is just me. > > > > Cheers > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:57 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Grae Morrison <gr… [at] gtmorrison.net> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits > > > > > > > > I have bought the little kits at both Fisheries Supply in Seattle and Downwind Marine in San Diego. > > > > On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Grae Morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and > the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is they're the > old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and > I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. > > Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can get the > kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them in the US. > > Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 > > Cheers, > Grae Morrison > 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 > Atlantic Highlands, NJ > > > ------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >

Thank you all for the advice and recommendations, I really like the idea of the box - brilliant! - soon as the better weather warms up I think a careful dismantling and then a good de-greasing will give me an idea of what I need. Grae Morrison On 28/01/2017 10:01, TD tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Ok Charlie..i started reading this post, as i do with most of > yours..with an interst in learning something. > What's he got to say today that i can learn from. Actually most of the > posts in this group fall into that category..so thank you all. > Anyway, i ended by actually..LoL! > Thanks for the morning chuckle and visual. > > Since i tore my rotator cuff and bicep in August reacing under the > cockpit of mine...i am familiar with those acrobatics! > ...tom > > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:55 AM, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, All. When I do winch service, I get a box (usually a 10 ream size >> typing paper box), cut a hole in the bottom, and set it over the >> winch. Box will catch little pieces that want to fly out as you >> disassemble. Those little pawls and springs make the neatest little >> /“blip!”/noise when they hit the water. >> >> >> >> Also, overgreasing tends to catch and hold the dust and crud, and will >> make service necessary sooner. >> >> >> >> Pawls and springs do come in different sizes. Bring the old ones to >> the store if you want to change them. Some boat stores will have >> generic batches of these parts, and you can match up. I rarely have >> to change them. A clean-up is typically sufficient. But maybe while >> you’re in there… and it’s been a while… oh, well. If the old ones >> seem undamaged, keep them in the lunchy baggy for a possible future >> emergency. >> >> >> >> Once again, WD-40 is salvation for grease removal. Follow with >> acetone, and you will have a very nice clean set of parts for renewal. >> >> >> >> I’ve learned everything I know by screwing up a job at least once. >> I’ve learned that how-to books, when showing a job on a big clean >> table, never quite match up to hanging in a hatch by your ankles >> trying to do everything with the two little fingers on your left >> hand. But then, that is just me. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Charlie >> >> Annapolis >> >> >> >> *From:*Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 10:57 AM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; >> Grae Morrison <gr… [at] gtmorrison.net <mailto:gr… [at] gtmorrison.net>> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Barient/Barlow Service kits >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have bought the little kits at both Fisheries Supply in Seattle and >> Downwind Marine in San Diego. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 6:27 AM, Grae Morrison gr… [at] gtmorrison.net >> <mailto:gr… [at] gtmorrison.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Time for a mea culpa - I've been very lax in servicing my winches and >> the time has come to give them a good going over, trouble is >> they're the >> old Barient/Barlow originals (at least I think they're originals!) and >> I'm having a little trouble sourcing service kits. >> >> Has anyone got any suggestions for alternatives or places I can >> get the >> kits, I do see one company in Aus but I was hoping to source them >> in the US. >> >> Models are: Barient/Barlow 16x2 18x1 24x2 >> >> Cheers, >> Grae Morrison >> 1972 Cal 2-29 'Destiny' #435 >> Atlantic Highlands, NJ >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> Yahoo Groups Links >> >> >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

Hello Tom, I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice.Feel free to write me off list. Matthew86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Hi Matthew, Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready:-Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections.-Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded.-Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel.-Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip.-Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard,Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! BillPass'n GasCal 28Monroe, Mi

Hello Matthew - Undertaking a passage to the Bahamas Is NOT to be taken lightly. You and your boat MUST BE Prepared ! Please seriously consider hiring a marine diesel mechanic to inspect your engine & drivetrain. It's much cheaper than a funeral. Joe DeMers On 2/1/17 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Hello Tom, > > I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding > area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far > North AL but will go down there several times a year. > > Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go > through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the > bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that > testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still > think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is > original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I > think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt > realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know > my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on > taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a > few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had > just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling > like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it > about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a > yanmar 3gm30f . > > Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm > beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months > and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. > > I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around > on active captain some but havent seen any of them. > > I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 > is really nice. > Feel free to write me off list. > Matthew > 86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; > "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC > > Hi Matthew, > > Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here > for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, > plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel > engines. > > It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back > home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very > pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then > weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the > shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At > times we had up to .75 knots lift. > > I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. > Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we > ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best > memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my > best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. > > Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a > deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready: > -Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel > injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. > Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for > leaks, old hoses, electrical connections. > -Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. > Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure > your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear > too worn or corroded. > -Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your > fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water > separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel > and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, > attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a > sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner > solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel. > -Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess > water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change > them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip. > -Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump > impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take > spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. > Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. > -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the > transmission, ATF for it. > -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running > rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of > standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings > in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get > down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you > how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of > Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. > > - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill > my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash > them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to > fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. > > If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to > respond with specific info. > > If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make > room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your > boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also > some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks > behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP > so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. > > You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou > Chico, Pensacola Shipyard, > Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can > check prices, etc. > > Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com > > Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 > years), and loving our Cal 46. > > Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico > > > On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately > get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we > are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of > Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! > > Bill > Pass'n Gas > Cal 28 > Monroe, Mi > > > > > > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/>*phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

Ditto! I'm a fearless, go-for-it person but some of your concerns would concern ME! (I raced motorcycles, scuba, sky dive, mountain bike, etc) Clean your filters...racor..anything fuel related, in case! Slow cranking can be a sign of impemding failure. Ask me how i know? I now have a replacement engine. Listen to these listers..and Joe Demers! > On Jan 31, 2017, at 10:01 PM, Joe DeMers je… [at] mindspring.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Matthew - Undertaking a passage to the Bahamas Is NOT to be taken lightly. You and your boat MUST BE Prepared ! Please seriously consider hiring a marine diesel mechanic to inspect your engine & drivetrain. > It's much cheaper than a funeral. Joe DeMers > >> On 2/1/17 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> >> >> Hello Tom, >> >> I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. >> >> Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . >> >> Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. >> >> I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. >> >> I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice. >> Feel free to write me off list. >> Matthew >> 86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) >> >> From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC >> >> >> Hi Matthew, >> >> Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. >> >> It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. >> >> I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. >> >> Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready: >> -Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections. >> -Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded. >> -Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel. >> -Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip. >> -Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. >> -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. >> -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. >> >> - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. >> >> If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. >> >> If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. >> >> You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard, >> Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. >> >> Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com >> >> Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. >> >> Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico >> >> >> On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! >> >> Bill >> Pass'n Gas >> Cal 28 >> Monroe, Mi >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- > Joe DeMers - owner > > Sound Marine Diesel LLC > > SoundMarineDiesel.comphone & fax (860) 666-2184 >

Thanks Joe, I dont know if theres a good diesel mechanic in Little River SC. I may see if I can find one. Its just a 10 hr sail across the stream from south Fl to the first bank. Thats with a good weather window.Anyways if anythings gonna happen its gonna happen out there! Captain Ron From: "Joe DeMers je… [at] mindspring.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Hello Matthew - Undertaking a passage to the Bahamas Is NOT to be taken lightly. You and your boat MUST BE Prepared ! Please seriously consider hiring a marine diesel mechanic to inspect your engine & drivetrain. It's much cheaper than a funeral. Joe DeMers On 2/1/17 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hello Tom, I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice. Feel free to write me off list. Matthew 86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Hi Matthew, Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready: -Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections. -Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded. -Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel. -Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip. -Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard, Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. 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Thanks Td. I will find why the slow cranking is and remedy it. Ill either make sure its all good or find someone who will and has the equipment to do so. From: "TD tb… [at] verizon.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Joe DeMers <je… [at] mindspring.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 12:37 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Ditto!I'm a fearless, go-for-it person but some of your concerns would concern ME!(I raced motorcycles, scuba, sky dive, mountain bike, etc) Clean your filters...racor..anything fuel related, in case!Slow cranking can be a sign of impemding failure. Ask me how i know?I now have a replacement engine.Listen to these listers..and Joe Demers! On Jan 31, 2017, at 10:01 PM, Joe DeMers je… [at] mindspring.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello Matthew - Undertaking a passage to the Bahamas Is NOT to be taken lightly. You and your boat MUST BE Prepared ! Please seriously consider hiring a marine diesel mechanic to inspect your engine & drivetrain. It's much cheaper than a funeral. Joe DeMers On 2/1/17 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hello Tom, I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice. Feel free to write me off list. Matthew 86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Hi Matthew, Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready: -Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections. -Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded. -Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel. -Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip. -Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard, Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! Bill Pass'n Gas Cal 28 Monroe, Mi -- Joe DeMers - owner Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.comphone & fax (860) 666-2184

Mathew, about 4 years ago I put a new motor and fuel tank in my boat. After 2 years I decided I should add biocide to the file since I hadn't done so previously. Little did I know I was setting off a real problem. Apparently my fuel was full of algae and the Biocide made it all sink to the bottom and get sucked up into the fuel system. I needed to change my rancor about every hour of running time after that. After a few filters I removed all the fuel from the tank and cleaned the bottom as much as I could. I added fuel treatment and about 3 gallons of diesel. Ran the engine and had the same problem still. Went through the same process a couple times and it did get slightly better. I ran into a friend and told him my take of woe, he said he would send me something that would fix my issue. I received a bottle of "Sid Harvey STR-2". It's a heating oil fuel treatment and emulsifies everything down to just a few microns. I added that to the fuel and I'm not sure I have changed a filter since. If you find yourself with a fuel issue the stuff is amazing. Sid Harvey's reps will tell you it's not intended for diesel fuel if you ask them. I have put at least 200 hours on since the fuel problem and my engine purrs like a kitten. Good luck on your adventure. -John Bristol 34', prospective Cal owner. > On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Tom, > > I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. > > Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . > > Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. > > I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. > > I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice. > Feel free to write me off list. > Matthew > 86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) > > From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC > > > Hi Matthew, > > Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. > > It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. > > I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. > > Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready: > -Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections. > -Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded. > -Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel. > -Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip. > -Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. > -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. > -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. > > - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. > > If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. > > If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. > > You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard, > Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. > > Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com > > Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. > > Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico > > > On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! > > Bill > Pass'n Gas > Cal 28 > Monroe, Mi > > > > >

John, So if you would have just added that stuff from the beginning do you think it would have just taken care of the issue by itself? I had a very good talk today with Joe from Sound Marine Diesel and think I may cut an inspection port into the top of my current tank. I currently do not have any fuel issues and have prob ran 10 gals of diesel through it this year, But I did add that biocide before leaving last. I might have ran it one more time out. From: "John Denman im… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 5:28 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Mathew, about 4 years ago I put a new motor and fuel tank in my boat. After 2 years I decided I should add biocide to the file since I hadn't done so previously. Little did I know I was setting off a real problem. Apparently my fuel was full of algae and the Biocide made it all sink to the bottom and get sucked up into the fuel system. I needed to change my rancor about every hour of running time after that. After a few filters I removed all the fuel from the tank and cleaned the bottom as much as I could. I added fuel treatment and about 3 gallons of diesel. Ran the engine and had the same problem still. Went through the same process a couple times and it did get slightly better. I ran into a friend and told him my take of woe, he said he would send me something that would fix my issue. I received a bottle of "Sid Harvey STR-2". It's a heating oil fuel treatment and emulsifies everything down to just a few microns. I added that to the fuel and I'm not sure I have changed a filter since. If you find yourself with a fuel issue the stuff is amazing. Sid Harvey's reps will tell you it's not intended for diesel fuel if you ask them. I have put at least 200 hours on since the fuel problem and my engine purrs like a kitten. Good luck on your adventure. -JohnBristol 34', prospective Cal owner. On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello Tom, I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice.Feel free to write me off list. Matthew86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC Hi Matthew, Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready:-Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections.-Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded.-Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel.-Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip.-Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard,Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! BillPass'n GasCal 28Monroe, Mi

Yes I do. If I had used biocide since the tank was new I wouldn't have had the problem and if I had added the STR-2 with the biocide I believe I would have been fine. One mistake I made was not having the fuel tank full over the winter before I added the biocide. I believe I got water and algae because of that mistake. Good luck. -John > On Feb 1, 2017, at 6:16 PM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > John, > So if you would have just added that stuff from the beginning do you think it would have just taken care of the issue by itself? I had a very good talk today with Joe from Sound Marine Diesel and think I may cut an inspection port into the top of my current tank. I currently do not have any fuel issues and have prob ran 10 gals of diesel through it this year, But I did add that biocide before leaving last. I might have ran it one more time out. > > > From: "John Denman im… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 5:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC > > > Mathew, about 4 years ago I put a new motor and fuel tank in my boat. After 2 years I decided I should add biocide to the file since I hadn't done so previously. Little did I know I was setting off a real problem. Apparently my fuel was full of algae and the Biocide made it all sink to the bottom and get sucked up into the fuel system. I needed to change my rancor about every hour of running time after that. After a few filters I removed all the fuel from the tank and cleaned the bottom as much as I could. I added fuel treatment and about 3 gallons of diesel. Ran the engine and had the same problem still. Went through the same process a couple times and it did get slightly better. I ran into a friend and told him my take of woe, he said he would send me something that would fix my issue. I received a bottle of "Sid Harvey STR-2". It's a heating oil fuel treatment and emulsifies everything down to just a few microns. I added that to the fuel and I'm not sure I have changed a filter since. If you find yourself with a fuel issue the stuff is amazing. Sid Harvey's reps will tell you it's not intended for diesel fuel if you ask them. I have put at least 200 hours on since the fuel problem and my engine purrs like a kitten. Good luck on your adventure. > > -John > Bristol 34', prospective Cal owner. > >> On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:27 AM, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hello Tom, >> >> I sure will look you up when we get nearby. Pensacola or surrounding area will be our boats home for the next few years. I live in far North AL but will go down there several times a year. >> >> Thank you very much for the very detailed mechanical checklist. I go through those, Im a little handy mechanically but I dont have the bench tester for injectors I may look up a diesel mechanic to do that testing in the myrtle Beach area. If its running good do you still think I should check those? I also have no hour meter and my engine is original and seems good other than sluggish cranking while starting. I think thats the starter button I hope and I do have an extra. I didnt realize I needed 6 fuel filters. I have one but ill get more. I know my racor filter is ugly inside the see through part. I was planning on taking it apart and cleaning before leaving and I added some biocide a few months ago to the tank, hopefully its good. The previous owner had just motored it from Stuart fl up before I bought her, so im feeling like the diesel may be in good shape already. Ive also motored it about 20 miles this year and added to the diesel. btw My engine is a yanmar 3gm30f . >> >> Im playing with the idea of also parking temporarily near w palm beach or Miami and crossing the stream with my wife in a couple months and cruising the abacos before coming to the gulf coast, well see. >> >> I may take you up on some temporary mooring. Ive been looking around on active captain some but havent seen any of them. >> >> I look forward to sharing some sailing stories with you! I bet that 46 is really nice. >> Feel free to write me off list. >> Matthew >> 86 cal 33.2 (warm Winds) >> >> From: "Tom Vandiver bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; "bi… [at] suttonclan.us" <bi… [at] suttonclan.us> >> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:56 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Sailing South from SC >> >> >> Hi Matthew, >> >> Be sure to look me up when you get to Pensacola. We have been here for about 20 years now, live by Bayou Chico with our own dock, plus my business BSH Marine LLC repairs and rebuilds boat diesel engines. >> >> It has been a few years since we sailed from the Chesapeake back home in our Cal 46. We left there in September 2001 and had a very pleasant motor sail down the ICW to south of Cape Hatteras. Then weather permitting we sailed outside within one (1) mile of the shore to take advantage of the Gulf Stream countercurrent. At times we had up to .75 knots lift. >> >> I would encourage you to have good access to weather forecasting. Down around Savannah we got reports of some nasty weather, so we ducked in and anchored up a creek for a few days. Some of our best memories are "waiting weather". Of course I am sailing with my best friend who is also my wife for 35 years now. >> >> Since you indicate little experience sailing and you have a deadline, I will offer some tips for getting your boat ready: >> -Have your engine checked by a competent technician. If the fuel injectors have not been tested, cleaned and calibrated, do so. Also change the oil and filters, engine and transmission. Look for leaks, old hoses, electrical connections. >> -Double check trans output shaft coupling to prop shaft coupling. Variation at 12,3,6 & 9 o'clock should not exceed .003. Assure your engine mounts are in good condition & replace if the appear too worn or corroded. >> -Diesel fuel must be clean and water free. I suggest having your fuel polished. Have it pumped out of your tank(s) through a water separator/filter into barrels. Then put about one gallon of fuel and a "Fuel Tank Cleaner" and let it sit a few days. If possible, attach a temporary outboard type tank with clean fuel and go for a sail. This will help clean the tank. Then pump out the cleaner solution and fill your tank full of fresh, clean fuel. >> -Inspect your fuel filter system, like where to bleed off excess water. Take at least 6 new fuel filters and know how to change them. You are not going to be sailing the entire trip. >> -Inspect your raw water pump and cooling system.Take a spare pump impeller. Examine the water injection elbow in the exhaust. Take spare coolant, that is 50% antifreeze and 50% Distilled water. Assure your engine is running at less than 185 degrees. >> -Take extra engine oil, filters and, depending on the transmission, ATF for it. >> -Have a qualified person inspect your standing and running rigging. Replace worn or damaged rigging. I also take a piece of standing rigging the length of my backstay and Sta-Lock fittings in case one is damaged or breaks. Yes, it can happen. When you get down to the bayou, we will have some cool ones and I will tell you how my headstay broke while we were crossing the Gulf of Tehuantepec in 50 knot winds. >> >> - Be sure your fresh water tanks are clean. I drain and re--fill my tanks after adding one gallon of bleach, going sailing to wash them, then draining and adding a little bicarbonate of soda to fresh water. I filter all of the water going into my tanks. >> >> If you will e mail me with what engine you have, I may be able to respond with specific info. >> >> If you don't have dock space arranged, let me know as I will make room at my dock until you determine where you want to keep your boat. There are several nice marinas here in Bayou Chico, also some of my neighbors allow folks to keep boats at private docks behind their homes. We are only one mile from the maingate at NASP so we get to see the Blue Angels practice when they are home. >> >> You mentioned hauling out. We have three boatyards here in Bayou Chico, Pensacola Shipyard, >> Pelican's Perch and Bahia Mar. They have websites, so you can check prices, etc. >> >> Let me know if I can provide any other info. to… [at] bshmarine.com >> >> Next month marks 35 years of owning, sailing, living on board, (14 years), and loving our Cal 46. >> >> Tom Vandiver, swallowed the anchor on Bayou Chico >> >> >> On Friday, January 27, 2017 5:51 AM, "bi… [at] suttonclan.us [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> In April we are going to do another leg of this trip to ultimately get to Lake Erie. The boat is currently near Nags Head NC and we are going to take her up from there, up the Hudson north of Yonkers NY. That should be a fun trip! >> >> Bill >> Pass'n Gas >> Cal 28 >> Monroe, Mi >> >> >> >> > > > >

Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds) -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv6209277133ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv6209277133ad p {margin:0;} .yiv6209277133ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv6209277133ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv6209277133underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv6209277133attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv6209277133attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv6209277133attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv6209277133attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv6209277133attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv6209277133bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv6209277133bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv6209277133last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv6209277133last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv6209277133last p span.yiv6209277133yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv6209277133attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv6209277133attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv6209277133file-title a, div.yiv6209277133file-title a:active, div.yiv6209277133file-title a:hover, div.yiv6209277133file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv6209277133photo-title a, div.yiv6209277133photo-title a:active, div.yiv6209277133photo-title a:hover, div.yiv6209277133photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv6209277133yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv6209277133green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv6209277133MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv6209277133replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;}

Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:39, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)

Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little every so often. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)

Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 11:38, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little every so often. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)

Thanks Helen, I think Im going to find some of that star board. Ill have to remove the teak above it to get the piece out I need to replace, Which ill refinish that teak very nicely with some sikkens cetol natural teak. I use that on all teak outside. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little every so often. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)

Did the star board you used that was pretty slick have the pattern on it or was it smooth? From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little every so often. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)

It was/is relatively smooth on both sides, not dimply like some cutting boards. Are you in Ca.? HH On Feb 27, 2017 7:41 PM, "matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Did the star board you used that was pretty slick have the pattern on it > or was it smooth? > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 2:40 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide > > > Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like > starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually > bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you > could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of > stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the > screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It > should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I > haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not > much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I > just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , > this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood > that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the > wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > > > Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side > is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different > from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace > whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in > different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little > every so often. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide > > > Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In > reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is > kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to > cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler > bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like > butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time > if contained in a trough. Helen > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > > > Hello everyone, > Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal > 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding > on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop > this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If > nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im > assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. > > Matthew > 86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds) > > > > > > >

I just Google starboard, came up with company called Boat Outfitters, which appears to have many choices. Check out their asst., haven't used them yet but looks good. HH On Feb 27, 2017 11:24 PM, "Edward Stancil" <e.… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > It was/is relatively smooth on both sides, not dimply like some cutting > boards. Are you in Ca.? HH > > On Feb 27, 2017 7:41 PM, "matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Did the star board you used that was pretty slick have the pattern on it >> or was it smooth? >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2017 2:40 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide >> >> >> Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like >> starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually >> bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you >> could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of >> stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the >> screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It >> should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I >> haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not >> much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I >> just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , >> this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood >> that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the >> wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >> >> >> Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard >> side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its >> different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely >> replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material >> in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little >> every so often. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *To:* "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide >> >> >> Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In >> reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is >> kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to >> cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler >> bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like >> butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time >> if contained in a trough. Helen >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >> >> >> Hello everyone, >> Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal >> 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding >> on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop >> this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If >> nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im >> assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. >> >> Matthew >> 86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

My Cal 33-2 (1986) has always had the companionway hatch glide on the gelcoat. It has a teak cover board, but it slides on the gelcoat. If I can get down there in a couple of days I will send a picture. Don Dutton 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” > On Feb 27, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > I just Google starboard, came up with company called Boat Outfitters, which appears to have many choices. Check out their asst., haven't used them yet but looks good. HH > > > >

Yeah I saw that, they will also pre cut to size! From: "Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Matthew Cole <ma… [at] yahoo.com>; ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide I just Google starboard, came up with company called Boat Outfitters, which appears to have many choices. Check out their asst., haven't used them yet but looks good. HH On Feb 27, 2017 11:24 PM, "Edward Stancil" <e.… [at] gmail.com> wrote: It was/is relatively smooth on both sides, not dimply like some cutting boards. Are you in Ca.? HH On Feb 27, 2017 7:41 PM, "matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Did the star board you used that was pretty slick have the pattern on it or was it smooth? From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little every so often. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)

It shouldn't glide on the gelcoat, it will wear it badly in due time. It slides on the worn down teak behind the gelcoat. From: "Donald C Dutton dn… [at] comcast.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Edward Stancil <e.… [at] gmail.com> Cc: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide My Cal 33-2 (1986) has always had the companionway hatch glide on the gelcoat. It has a teak cover board, but it slides on the gelcoat. If I can get down there in a couple of days I will send a picture. Don Dutton1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” On Feb 27, 2017, at 11:32 PM, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I just Google starboard, came up with company called Boat Outfitters, which appears to have many choices. Check out their asst., haven't used them yet but looks good. HH

I too am using cetol light. It holds up very well with the 3 coats then three more of the gloss on top. On the coaming, where we put winch handles during sailing, I noticed it is soft enough to bounce rather than chip! HH Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:43, matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks Helen, I think Im going to find some of that star board. Ill have to remove the teak above it to get the piece out I need to replace, Which ill refinish that teak very nicely with some sikkens cetol natural teak. I use that on all teak outside. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:40 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi, depending on your location, many plastic suppliers carry stuff like starboard. In SF bay area a company called TAP plastics has it. I actually bought a 2x4 sheet from a home depot once. If you got a thicker piece, you could rout the rabbet edge or shape on a table saw. Or use a piece of stainless for the slide and a narrower piece of starboard, countersink the screw into the ss and through the plastic, and attach to the cabin roof. It should stand up to original height and then slide.(resembling a T shape). I haven't needed to grease starboard, it's pretty slippery on it's own. Not much sticks to it, so you want one piece (thickness of choice) to mill. I just realized a different situation..if your hatch grips around the T , this should work. But our previous Cal 29 hatch slid in a piece of wood that had a groove and the hatch was only a flat edge that had worn the wood slot a bit. Now not sure which one you have. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Its a companion way top slides Im trying to figure out. The starboard side is actually worn down a little more than the port side and its different from the far back to the front :/ so I will need to completely replace whatever it slides on. I'd love to find some cutting board material in different thicknesses. That might work good and just grease it a little every so often. From: "Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: "Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 33.2 companion way slide Hi Matthew, our cal 36 has teak on exterior, and mahogany interior. In reference to plastic, not sure how you would use it but starboard which is kind of like cutting board, comes in different thicknesses, is easy to cut, etc., so I have used thin strips and countersunk screws on a trawler bottom door track after it got worn to screws in wood, and door slides like butter. A companionway hatch door or top? Probably would last a long time if contained in a trough. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android Hello everyone,Has anyone replaced the inner wood that the glass slides on, on their cal 33.2 companion way top? Im looking for any good feedback. Mine is ridding on the gelcoat and I really need to get some new wood in there to stop this. Do they make some sort of plastic with stainless bearing slides? If nothing els Ill see If I can find a wood mill that may have some teak. Im assuming that is teak. I may use oak possibly. Matthew86 Cal 33.2 (Warm Winds)