Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 strut (Matthew)

I built up a badly deteriorated strut with bondo and used it as a pattern to have a sand casting made locally. Worked great! Mike Farrell Yellow Jack US 57313 From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: 03/24/2017 5:21 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com,matthewt316 <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 strut (Matthew) Matthew, I replaced the strut on our Cal 2-27 a few years ago. It was the original bronze and suffered from electrolysis. We pulled the strut and took it to the local propeller & strut shop here in Fort Lauderdale. About a week later, we had a new SS strut ready to install. If I recall, the price was in the range of $700. I'm not aware of where you could get a bronze replacement. Good Luck, Michael Duvall PO S/V Magic, 1979 Cal 2-27, #627 Pompano Beach, FL From: "matthewt316 ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 strut So did they add even more glass than what was there originaly to streagthen the corroded strut? I'm playing g with the idea to kevlar rap the whole thing, but then whatever little bit of bronze would still be in saltwater would really be attacked. It might possibly be welded and add metal if the joining above can take a little heat and cooling. Maybe coat the whole thing in epoxy with glass particles mixed and try to cover all bronze but the bearing. Anyone have anymore idea's? From: "Donald C Dutton dn… [at] comcast.net [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: 3/23/17 7:43 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, matthewt316 <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Cc: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 Damiana's Recent Yard Visit strut My strut was in really bad condition and was pulling out of the boat when we hauled in St. Peterburg, FL about 2001. The yard cut out all of the glass around it, braced it in place to maintain the alignment, and then reglassed the strut into place. They braced it somehow to maintain the alignment while doing the glass work. Has never been a problem since. They put a LOT of fiberglass in that repair! Don Dutton 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:21 PM, matthewt316 ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have my cal 33.2 hualed out and am currently in the process of having the entire lower previous coatings ground down to the glass. Then several new coats w a barrier coat will be applied. I have all kinds of projects going on. Im trying do decide if I should replace my strut, glass it or leave it alone. It has a good amount of corosion damage but nothing els does?. All of the other through huals are original, bonded and it good shape. That strut is flat ugly though. Has anyone changed one or know how big a deal it is? Matthew Sv Warm winds 1986 Cal 33 From: "Christopher Thompson ra… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date: 3/22/17 11:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Yahoogroups <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 Damiana's Recent Yard Visit [1 Attachment] Hauled the boat a couple of weeks back. While the yard was pressure washing the bottom, large pieces of paint and filler began popping off of the keel. My wife and I spent the day chipping the paint off of the entire keel. As you all know, the yard list grows the second you pull the boat out! The lead of the keel was in very good shape and I was impressed by the care that went into the molding of it. We scuffed the surface and applied 2 coats of a 2-part epoxy made for the purpose. I spoke with one of the yard foreman and he asked if the keel was electrically bonded and I told him that everything appeared to be bonded on this boat. He stated that they have seen boats with bonded keels lose the paint from that surface and that it is a possible indication of an electrical issue (it is also possible that the keel was not prepped properly for the paint). We walked the rest of the metallic objects below the waterline and noticed that all of the bronze thru hulls had a dark, scaly buildup around them. These are bonded. The shaft strut is also bonded but it has a zinc attached. It was pristine. I have read articles on bonding and have seen strong arguments for and against bonding. It seems that East coast boats are more likely to have extensive bonding systems to deal with the higher potential for a lightning strike. I have started to review the wiring on my boat in an effort to expose any problems ( I found several wiring issues on my last boat). I have removed the bond wires from the thru hull fittings and the diver and I will keep an eye on them. Have any of you experienced issues related to bonding? Chris 1988 33-2 Damiana Posted by: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net> Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (5) Check out the automatic photo album with 1 photo(s) from this topic.

Re-read my post. Should have been more specific. The strut itself was in fine shape — no corrosion at that time. What was in terrible shape was where the strut attached to the boat. It was flexing and was breaking the fiberglass to the point you could move it 1/4” by hand. I had noticed a banging in the aft 1/4 berth and that was the cause. Hauled it because I needed bottom paint as well. Glad I did. So, the only fix I needed to the strut was where it attached to the structure of the boat. Upon removal of the old glass it was determined that they did not need to go in from the 1/4 berth side, but could build new glass work from the hull side of the boat. And they added a LOT of fiberglass. It is still in excellent condition. Not at all certain how it missed the electrolysis that damaged the other through hulls, but I am guessing because it is the one piece of metal on the boat that was not bonded. Don Dutton 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” > On Mar 24, 2017, at 6:39 AM, vectormenow ve… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > I built up a badly deteriorated strut with bondo and used it as a pattern to have a sand casting made locally. Worked great! Mike Farrell Yellow Jack US 57313 > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Reverb. > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Michael D md… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:md… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > Date: 03/24/2017 5:21 AM (GMT-08:00) > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>,matthewt316 <ma… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ma… [at] yahoo.com>> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 strut (Matthew) > > > Matthew, > > I replaced the strut on our Cal 2-27 a few years ago. It was the original bronze and suffered from electrolysis. We pulled the strut and took it to the local propeller & strut shop here in Fort Lauderdale. About a week later, we had a new SS strut ready to install. If I recall, the price was in the range of $700. > > I'm not aware of where you could get a bronze replacement. > > Good Luck, > Michael Duvall > PO S/V Magic, 1979 Cal 2-27, #627 > Pompano Beach, FL > > > From: "matthewt316 ma… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ma… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net <mailto:dn… [at] comcast.net>> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 strut > > > So did they add even more glass than what was there originaly to streagthen the corroded strut? > > I'm playing g with the idea to kevlar rap the whole thing, but then whatever little bit of bronze would still be in saltwater would really be attacked. > > It might possibly be welded and add metal if the joining above can take a little heat and cooling. > > Maybe coat the whole thing in epoxy with glass particles mixed and try to cover all bronze but the bearing. > Anyone have anymore idea's? > > > > > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: "Donald C Dutton dn… [at] comcast.net <mailto:dn… [at] comcast.net> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > Date: 3/23/17 7:43 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>, matthewt316 <ma… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ma… [at] yahoo.com>> > Cc: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net <mailto:dn… [at] comcast.net>> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 Damiana's Recent Yard Visit strut > > > My strut was in really bad condition and was pulling out of the boat when we hauled in St. Peterburg, FL about 2001. The yard cut out all of the glass around it, braced it in place to maintain the alignment, and then reglassed the strut into place. They braced it somehow to maintain the alignment while doing the glass work. Has never been a problem since. They put a LOT of fiberglass in that repair! > > Don Dutton > 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” > > >> On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:21 PM, matthewt316 ma… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ma… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: >> >> >> I have my cal 33.2 hualed out and am currently in the process of having the entire lower previous coatings ground down to the glass. Then several new coats w a barrier coat will be applied. I have all kinds of projects going on. Im trying do decide if I should replace my strut, glass it or leave it alone. It has a good amount of corosion damage but nothing els does?. All of the other through huals are original, bonded and it good shape. That strut is flat ugly though. Has anyone changed one or know how big a deal it is? >> Matthew >> Sv Warm winds 1986 Cal 33 >> >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: "Christopher Thompson ra… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ra… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> >> Date: 3/22/17 11:55 PM (GMT-05:00) >> To: Yahoogroups <ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> >> Subject: [Cal_Boats] 33-2 Damiana's Recent Yard Visit [1 Attachment] >> >> >> >> Hauled the boat a couple of weeks back. While the yard was pressure washing the bottom, large pieces of paint and filler began popping off of the keel. My wife and I spent the day chipping the paint off of the entire keel. As you all know, the yard list grows the second you pull the boat out! >> >> The lead of the keel was in very good shape and I was impressed by the care that went into the molding of it. We scuffed the surface and applied 2 coats of a 2-part epoxy made for the purpose. >> >> I spoke with one of the yard foreman and he asked if the keel was electrically bonded and I told him that everything appeared to be bonded on this boat. He stated that they have seen boats with bonded keels lose the paint from that surface and that it is a possible indication of an electrical issue (it is also possible that the keel was not prepped properly for the paint). We walked the rest of the metallic objects below the waterline and noticed that all of the bronze thru hulls had a dark, scaly buildup around them. These are bonded. The shaft strut is also bonded but it has a zinc attached. It was pristine. >> >> I have read articles on bonding and have seen strong arguments for and against bonding. It seems that East coast boats are more likely to have extensive bonding systems to deal with the higher potential for a lightning strike. >> >> I have started to review the wiring on my boat in an effort to expose any problems ( I found several wiring issues on my last boat). I have removed the bond wires from the thru hull fittings and the diver and I will keep an eye on them. >> >> Have any of you experienced issues related to bonding? >> Chris 1988 33-2 Damiana >> >> > > Posted by: Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net <mailto:dn… [at] comcast.net>> > Reply via web post <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/messages/42729;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZ2RwZnVzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MjcyOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0OTAzMTI2MDk-?act=reply&messageNum=42729&soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma> • Reply to sender <mailto:dn… [at] comcast.net?subject=Re%3A%20%5BCal_Boats%5D%2033-2%20Damiana%27s%20Recent%20Yard%20Visit%20strut> • Reply to group <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5BCal_Boats%5D%2033-2%20Damiana%27s%20Recent%20Yard%20Visit%20strut> • Start a New Topic <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOXRnNjJuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTAzMTI2MDk-?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma> • Messages in this topic <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/topics/42723;_ylc=X3oDMTM3Zm1rbmRxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MjcyOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTAzMTI2MDkEdHBjSWQDNDI3MjM-?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma> (5) > Check out the automatic photo album with 1 photo(s) <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/photomatic/1378356602;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma> from this topic. > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/photomatic/1378356602;_ylc=X3oDMTE4M3R1OW82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGNmOQNQSE9UT01BVElDBHNlYwNtZWdhcGhvbmU-?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma> > > > >