10 messages2017-03-16 20:28 UTCthrough 2017-03-28 15:26 UTC
Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
NEWMAN2017-03-16 20:28 UTC
Work is progressing on replacing the cabin sole in Puffin, our 1986 Cal 33.
We have demo'ed the sole and was able to get all but the V birth sections
out in one piece so had good templates. Used my timber framing chisels to
drive under the plywood and pry. The floor was glued down with some kind of
white silicone. The chisel method worked very good. I made a paper template
and successfully shaped a new piece for the V birth since that piece had to
be partially destroyed to get it up.
Here are some pictures of the work. We are now waiting for warmer weather
so I can seal the plywood (top, edges and bottom). Then we will apply
varnish.
I still need to add some teak trim pieces, but for the most part the floor
sections are fitted and we have them home awaiting sealer. I plan to reuse
two of the center sections.
Leslie Newman
Virginia
This past Sunday. The boat yard has already painted Puffin's bottom.
My wife Claire working very hard.
V Birth piece
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
Donald C Dutton2017-03-17 00:52 UTC
Leslie,
Puffin is identical to my boat — they could be twins!!
I refinished my cabin sole 5 years ago, but did not seal the bottom of the plywood as you are doing and it now needs replacing. I guess QE is next!
Don Dutton
1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution”
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> Work is progressing on replacing the cabin sole in Puffin, our 1986 Cal 33. We have demo'ed the sole and was able to get all but the V birth sections out in one piece so had good templates. Used my timber framing chisels to drive under the plywood and pry. The floor was glued down with some kind of white silicone. The chisel method worked very good. I made a paper template and successfully shaped a new piece for the V birth since that piece had to be partially destroyed to get it up.
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> Here are some pictures of the work. We are now waiting for warmer weather so I can seal the plywood (top, edges and bottom). Then we will apply varnish.
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
Harleigh Ewell2017-03-17 01:33 UTC
Looking good!
Harleigh
Cal 31 Kat’s Cradle
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Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
Work is progressing on replacing the cabin sole in Puffin, our 1986 Cal 33. We have demo'ed the sole and was able to get all but the V birth sections out in one piece so had good templates. Used my timber framing chisels to drive under the plywood and pry. The floor was glued down with some kind of white silicone. The chisel method worked very good. I made a paper template and successfully shaped a new piece for the V birth since that piece had to be partially destroyed to get it up.
Here are some pictures of the work. We are now waiting for warmer weather so I can seal the plywood (top, edges and bottom). Then we will apply varnish.
I still need to add some teak trim pieces, but for the most part the floor sections are fitted and we have them home awaiting sealer. I plan to reuse two of the center sections.
Leslie Newman
Virginia
This past Sunday. The boat yard has already painted Puffin's bottom.
My wife Claire working very hard.
V Birth piece
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
NEWMAN2017-03-17 15:07 UTC
Don,
Aren't they just fantastic boats. I find them very pleasing to the eye. We
really enjoy Puffin and she's pretty quick.
I am planning to seal using the Smith's epoxy.
https://www.star-distributing.com/smith/products.html
Recommended by the place we bought our teak and holy plywood.
I bought the varnish from Jamestown Distributing. Purchased the TotalBoat
Gleam 2.0 Spar Varnish. The description makes it sound easier to apply.
When we removed the old floor the only sections that were sealed underneath
were the two stern pieces each side of the engine. All the other sections
were bare wood. Well, the two middle sections I am reusing were also
sealed, but the majority of the floor was not sealed. I think it was the
original flooring, so lasted a fairly long time.
We had a soft spot in front of the settee. Felt like your foot would go
through the floor. Plywood was separating badly and very weak in one spot.
Plus the teak and holy veneer was starting to peel up on the two stern
pieces. Most likely from when the stuffing box water spilled from under the
engine compartment at times we heeled over after a long period of being
under motor and then started sailing. I didn't always have the stuffing box
adjusted correctly. I now have that better stuffing material that allows a
tighter adjustment, much less drip. But the damage was done to the floor
over the years and it was time for a new floor.
Weather looking warm for Sunday and I think I will try to get the sections
sealed. It takes several days for the Smith's to cure, so maybe by next
weekend we'll be down there doing some installation.
Fair winds!
Leslie
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Donald C Dutton <dn… [at] comcast.net>
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> Leslie,
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> Puffin is identical to my boat — they could be twins!!
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> I refinished my cabin sole 5 years ago, but did not seal the bottom of the
> plywood as you are doing and it now needs replacing. I guess QE is next!
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> Don Dutton
> 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution”
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
Christopher Thompson2017-03-21 02:26 UTC
Great looking project!Chris 1988 33-2 Damiana
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:14 PM, "NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Work is progressing on replacing the cabin sole in Puffin, our 1986 Cal 33. We have demo'ed the sole and was able to get all but the V birth sections out in one piece so had good templates. Used my timber framing chisels to drive under the plywood and pry. The floor was glued down with some kind of white silicone. The chisel method worked very good. I made a paper template and successfully shaped a new piece for the V birth since that piece had to be partially destroyed to get it up.
Here are some pictures of the work. We are now waiting for warmer weather so I can seal the plywood (top, edges and bottom). Then we will apply varnish.
I still need to add some teak trim pieces, but for the most part the floor sections are fitted and we have them home awaiting sealer. I plan to reuse two of the center sections.
Leslie NewmanVirginia
This past Sunday. The boat yard has already painted Puffin's bottom.
My wife Claire working very hard.
V Birth piece
Re: Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
NEWMAN2017-03-27 02:27 UTC
Update on cabin sole replacement. I got all the new pieces cut and fitted.
Now have five coats of varnish, after first sealing with Smiths penetrating
sealer. Still need to do one more fitting at the boat so I can fit some
teak trim strips. Hopefully be done in another weekend.
I appologize for attaching pics but I cannot get logged into Yahoo to put
them there.
Leslie
Puffin 1986 Cal 33.
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Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
matthew2017-03-27 02:55 UTC
Good looking floors! Send a picture of the finished project too please. :) Include how its done around the mast. Mine has a nifty little piece you drop in behind the mast.
From: "NEWMAN d2… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>
To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 10:28 PM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
Update on cabin sole replacement. I got all the new pieces cut and fitted. Now have five coats of varnish, after first sealing with Smiths penetrating sealer. Still need to do one more fitting at the boat so I can fit some teak trim strips. Hopefully be done in another weekend.I appologize for attaching pics but I cannot get logged into Yahoo to put them there.
LesliePuffin 1986 Cal 33.
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Re: Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
NEWMAN2017-03-27 10:15 UTC
Thanks. I haven't cut the new mast piece yet. My plan is to measure and
cut that once the other pieces are in place. The original piece was so
delaminated I cut one slit in the small section of it and bent it to get it
out. I have a plan for getting the new piece in place. I'll post pics after
I have it constructed.
Leslie
On Sunday, March 26, 2017, matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good looking floors! Send a picture of the finished project too please. :)
> Include how its done around the mast. Mine has a nifty little piece you
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> Update on cabin sole replacement. I got all the new pieces cut and fitted.
> Now have five coats of varnish, after first sealing with Smiths penetrating
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> teak trim strips. Hopefully be done in another weekend.
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Re: Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
ge… [at] msn.com2017-03-28 15:14 UTC
I used two pieces;one fit behind the mast and the other in front. This seemed a lot easier, and cheaper than unstepping the mast. It looks fine. Sorry no pictures at the moment..
Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Cal 33 'Puffin' cabin sole replacement
NEWMAN2017-03-28 15:26 UTC
Thanks, yes I plan on two pieces as well. I am thinking I will have a
smaller section on the back 1/4 of the piece so that I can slip the main
piece into place, then put the back 1/4 piece down. Underneath have some
wood strips that will allow me to screw each section down, holding the two
pieces together as one. Hard to explain. I'll take pictures of my finished
product. It is clear in my head anyway :)
Leslie
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> seemed a lot easier, and cheaper than unstepping the mast. It looks fine.
> Sorry no pictures at the moment..
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