1969 Cal 34 For Sale

Hello Cal Owners, Need to find a new home for my Cal 34 I have been sailing since 1972. Have not had any success on Craigslist or Sailboatlistings.com in the last year. Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is berthed in Charleston SC. Here is the link to the craigslist ad. https://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/6008826904.html Ted Smith Cal 34 Hull # 207

My suggestion is to finish painting and clean it up and take new pictures. It looks a bit like a project boat from the pictures you have but I am sure if you look past the tape and paint supplies, it is a well kept boat. Present it as such. Make it look like a boat that is ready to sail. On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 7:00 AM, ca… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hello Cal Owners, > > Need to find a new home for my Cal 34 I have been sailing since 1972. > > Have not had any success on Craigslist or Sailboatlistings.com in the last > year. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is berthed in Charleston SC. > > Here is the link to the craigslist ad. https://charleston.craigslist. > org/boa/6008826904.html > > Ted Smith > > Cal 34 Hull # 207 > > > > >

Good advice. Cal owners can see past the "mess" and appreciate the work you've done. I think she looks beautiful but others aren't going to see it. Also wanted to say that perhaps it's taking so long waiting for the right person to come along who will appreciate her. The guy I bought my Cal 2 34 from had her up for sale for 2 years before I came along and wouldn't sell her to previous lookey loos cuz they couldn't wrap themselves around all he had done to her and the classic she is. I don't know if that matters to you. I bought mine on craig's list. Would love to see those pictures when you get them up. Faith On 2017-04-01 07:05, Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > My suggestion is to finish painting and clean it up and take new pictures. It looks a bit like a project boat from the pictures you have but I am sure if you look past the tape and paint supplies, it is a well kept boat. Present it as such. Make it look like a boat that is ready to sail. > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 7:00 AM, ca… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> Hello Cal Owners, >> >> Need to find a new home for my Cal 34 I have been sailing since 1972. >> >> Have not had any success on Craigslist or Sailboatlistings.com in the last year. >> >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is berthed in Charleston SC. >> >> Here is the link to the craigslist ad. https://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/6008826904.html [1] >> >> Ted Smith >> >> Cal 34 Hull # 207 > > Links: ------ [1] https://charleston.craigslist.org/boa/6008826904.html [2] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/messages/42795;_ylc=X3oDMTJyNm1uZ2JyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0Mjc5NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0OTEwNTU1ODY-?act=reply&amp;messageNum=42795 [3] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNmExa3Q5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTEwNTU1ODY- [4] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/topics/42794;_ylc=X3oDMTM3Nm5iYnRpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0Mjc5NQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTEwNTU1ODYEdHBjSWQDNDI3OTQ- [5] https://yho.com/1wwmgg [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmOGp2cTRqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0OTEwNTU1ODY- [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJndTh0Mm5sBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDkxMDU1NTg2 [8] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlZWI0czF0BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ5MTA1NTU4Ng-- [9] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [10] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

There's a Cal 34 in So Cal on the mkt. for 8k that needs work on her Atomic and the deck looks like a mess, and another Cal 34, a Mk 3 with a diesel, set up for cruzing, and the owner is asking 21.9K and is threatening to raise the price if no one takes it by the end of the week. It's a buyer's mkt. Sell a classic plastic boat is a beech...especially if you want fair mkt. value. Jerry of Shpritz. On Saturday, April 1, 2017 7:07 AM, "Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: My suggestion is to finish painting and clean it up and take new pictures. It looks a bit like a project boat from the pictures you have but I am sure if you look past the tape and paint supplies, it is a well kept boat. Present it as such. Make it look like a boat that is ready to sail. On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 7:00 AM, ca… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hello Cal Owners, Need to find a new home for my Cal 34 I have been sailing since 1972. Have not had any success on Craigslist or Sailboatlistings.com in the last year. Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is berthed in Charleston SC. Here is the link to the craigslist ad. https://charleston.craigslist. org/boa/6008826904.html Ted Smith Cal 34 Hull # 207

On 4/1/2017 1:00 PM, fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Good advice. Cal owners can see past the "mess" and appreciate the > work you've done. I think she looks beautiful but others aren't going > to see it. > > Also wanted to say that perhaps it's taking so long waiting for the > right person to come along who will appreciate her. The guy I bought > my Cal 2 34 from had her up for sale for 2 years before I came along > and wouldn't sell her to previous lookey loos cuz they couldn't wrap > themselves around all he had done to her and the classic she is. I > don't know if that matters to you. > I was thinking about that this weekend. It was a work weekend. Get that boottop cleaned up. Attack the corroded spots on the outboard lower unit and get the rest of the crud off. Most of all, prep spots where varnish has failed and then sand all the toe rails for their annual recoat. This is the 49th year I've done this on that boat. If the time comes to sell (should that be "when"?), you can bet I'll be picky. And to give me the freedom to be picky, I try to keep up with structural and functional items. This year it was the centerboard; next year maybe a new mainsail. And apropos of "center of effort," the marina developed a new incentive policy about 15 years ago. They now require you to select a launch date when you haul out in the fall. It's ostensibly to allow an orderly extraction from the buildings, but it also discourages the "Oh, I'll do it next weekend" mentality. Now they don't get a flood of phone calls from owners who want to launch that week when summer arrives. That big red notice on the calendar does focus the mind. Chris Campbell

On 4/1/2017 2:24 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > It's a buyer's mkt. Sell a classic plastic boat is a > beech...especially if you want fair mkt. value. Of course, the definition of "fair market value" is what a willing buyer and willing seller agree on. It's not the same as "bluebook value," which is some sort of historical lookback at sale prices, to give people a rough idea of the range of values that might pertain. We sailors tend to develop affection for our boats so we have an inclination to overestimate value. I'm always surprised at how people neglect cosmetics when they are selling boats... or cars, or bicycles. We're all suckers for clean and shiny, even when we ignore big issues. Didn't our parents teach us that first impressions count? 'Tis true. So many boats are offered in the same condition as when they were last sailed, except that there's a bit more mold and mildew. Chris Campbell

Selling older boats is hard. The price people are willing to pay is dropping all the time and it has little to do w what you put in it. You have two choices, hold out for your higher price or keep dropping the price till it moves. If you are enjoying the boat, then holding out may make sense, but keep in mind the cost of having it. On the low end it probably costs 2-3k a year to have it, so you have to weigh where the value is for you. East Coast Cal 29 sailor On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:00 AM, ca… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hello Cal Owners, > > Need to find a new home for my Cal 34 I have been sailing since 1972. > > Have not had any success on Craigslist or Sailboatlistings.com in the last > year. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is berthed in Charleston SC. > > Here is the link to the craigslist ad. https://charleston.craigslist. > org/boa/6008826904.html > > Ted Smith > > Cal 34 Hull # 207 > > > > >

All good advice. I'll add my two cents. Good advertising is key. List all the good stuff and have lots of pictures. And as others said, have it ship shape. If it looks like it needs work that will scare away buyers. Just the year 1969 alone is going to scare away some buyers. The boat has some age on her. That is where listing all the improvements or maintenance helps. Years ago my wife and I were selling our 1982 O'Day 34. One potential buyer, the husband, really wanted it. But the wife said she didn't want an old boat because it would have problems. We took them on a sea trial and the boat did great. I said to the Husband "All boats are going to have some problems. You have to pick your poison. I am being up front about the condition of mine". They ended up not buying, but we sold to another person that was more realistic about boats. This was in 2006 and he still have the O'Day and enjoys it much. About fair weather sailing, that sums it up for my wife and I now. We have old photos of us at the wheel in parka and mittens. That just isn't fun anymore. We still don't hesitate to go out in a blow, but I don't want it to be real cold. Leslie Puffin 1986 Cal 33. On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 1:04 PM, 'sailor7312 .' sa… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Selling older boats is hard. The price people are willing to pay is > dropping all the time and it has little to do w what you put in it. You > have two choices, hold out for your higher price or keep dropping the price > till it moves. > > If you are enjoying the boat, then holding out may make sense, but keep in > mind the cost of having it. On the low end it probably costs 2-3k a year > to have it, so you have to weigh where the value is for you. > > East Coast Cal 29 sailor > > On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 10:00 AM, ca… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Hello Cal Owners, >> >> Need to find a new home for my Cal 34 I have been sailing since 1972. >> >> Have not had any success on Craigslist or Sailboatlistings.com in the >> last year. >> >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. She is berthed in Charleston SC. >> >> Here is the link to the craigslist ad. https://charleston.craigslist. >> org/boa/6008826904.html >> >> Ted Smith >> >> Cal 34 Hull # 207 >> >> >> >> > >