2-27 mast compression issues

Hi everyone. With this boat I'm bringing back I need spreaders and see occasionally owners outfit their spars with devices to absorb compressive forces from the spreaders. This an issue? Here's a photo of the mast and where the spreaders will be received. It appears this extra metal may have anticipated this force. Your thoughts? -- *Donald J Thomas* Broker Associate *LIV Sotheby's International Realty* 101 S. Main St. Breckenridge, Colorado 970-409-9133 www.teamthomasmountainhomes.com

Don, I made new spreaders for my CAL 34 with clear spruce I got from Aircraft Supply. This wood has no knots or imperfections. It was a job, but they turned out great. > On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Donald Thomas dn… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone. With this boat I'm bringing back I need spreaders and see occasionally owners outfit their spars with devices to absorb compressive forces from the spreaders. This an issue? Here's a photo of the mast and where the spreaders will be received. It appears this extra metal may have anticipated this force. Your thoughts? > > -- > Donald J Thomas > Broker Associate > LIV Sotheby's International Realty > 101 S. Main St. > Breckenridge, Colorado > 970-409-9133 > www.teamthomasmountainhomes.com >

Hi Don,My 1975 2-27 came to me with the setup in the photos. We (local yard gurus and I) are pretty certain the boat started life with factory wood spreaders and somewhere along the line they were upgraded to these cool aluminum ones that look like airplane control arms. They were too long at the ends so Svendsen's cut them down and added holes for seizing wire as well. But the fittings at the mast appear to be original. Also included is a photo of where my uppers connect to the mast. Nothing fancy, just a big bolt going through tangs. Reinforcing plates screwed to the mast. Looks OEM enough to me, but could very well have been added after it left the factory. One note along these lines: when I replaced my stays & shrouds, I went up a size on everything. As you may have read elsewhere (or Steve Seals will tell you), they were under-spec'd to begin with so there's a history of broken masts. Recommend you consider the same. I have the receipts somewhere if you need sizes.Good luck! -Adam From: "Kieran Dooley so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Donald Thomas <dn… [at] gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] 2-27 mast compression issues Don,I made new spreaders for my CAL 34 with clear spruce I got from Aircraft Supply. This wood has no knots or imperfections. It was a job, but they turned out great. On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Donald Thomas dn… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi everyone. With this boat I'm bringing back I need spreaders and see occasionally owners outfit their spars with devices to absorb compressive forces from the spreaders. This an issue? Here's a photo of the mast and where the spreaders will be received. It appears this extra metal may have anticipated this force. Your thoughts? -- Donald J ThomasBroker AssociateLIV Sotheby's International Realty101 S. Main St.Breckenridge, Colorado 970-409-9133www.teamthomasmountainhomes.com

On 4/16/2017 11:21 PM, Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Adam included below] > > Hi Don, > My 1975 2-27 came to me with the setup in the photos. We (local yard > gurus and I) are pretty certain the boat started life with factory > wood spreaders and somewhere along the line they were upgraded to > these cool aluminum ones that look like airplane control arms. They > were too long at the ends so Svendsen's cut them down and added holes > for seizing wire as well. > But the fittings at the mast appear to be original. > Also included is a photo of where my uppers connect to the mast. > Nothing fancy, just a big bolt going through tangs. Reinforcing > plates screwed to the mast. Looks OEM enough to me, but could very > well have been added after it left the factory. I've read this thread and am a bit puzzled. But it sounds like the inquiry was about compressive forces on the mast. The Cal 20 rig uses spreaders attached via U-brackets and a through-bolt. The problem is that a through-bolt will tend to compress the mast at that point. The problem is avoided by using an aluminum tube inside the mast that the bolt runs through. The tube takes the compression so the mast isn't squeezed. Chris Campbell > >

Thanks, these photos tell the story. Does the stay get attached in any way to the end of the spreader or just flow freely being restrained from jumping out of the track for it? On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 9:21 PM, Adam as… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#m_4663646837237886103_TopText> from Adam included below] > > Hi Don, > My 1975 2-27 came to me with the setup in the photos. We (local yard > gurus and I) are pretty certain the boat started life with factory wood > spreaders and somewhere along the line they were upgraded to these cool > aluminum ones that look like airplane control arms. They were too long at > the ends so Svendsen's cut them down and added holes for seizing wire as > well. > But the fittings at the mast appear to be original. > Also included is a photo of where my uppers connect to the mast. Nothing > fancy, just a big bolt going through tangs. Reinforcing plates screwed to > the mast. Looks OEM enough to me, but could very well have been added > after it left the factory. > > One note along these lines: when I replaced my stays & shrouds, I went up > a size on everything. As you may have read elsewhere (or Steve Seals will > tell you), they were under-spec'd to begin with so there's a history of > broken masts. Recommend you consider the same. I have the receipts > somewhere if you need sizes. > Good luck! > -Adam > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Kieran Dooley so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Donald Thomas <dn… [at] gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 16, 2017 3:30 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] 2-27 mast compression issues > > > Don, > I made new spreaders for my CAL 34 with clear spruce I got from Aircraft > Supply. This wood has no knots or imperfections. It was a job, but they > turned out great. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 16, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Donald Thomas dn… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone. With this boat I'm bringing back I need spreaders and see > occasionally owners outfit their spars with devices to absorb compressive > forces from the spreaders. This an issue? Here's a photo of the mast and > where the spreaders will be received. It appears this extra metal may have > anticipated this force. Your thoughts? > > -- > *Donald J Thomas* > Broker Associate > *LIV Sotheby's International Realty* > 101 S. Main St. > Breckenridge, Colorado > 970-409-9133 <(970)%20409-9133> > www.teamthomasmountainhomes.com > > > > > -- *Donald J Thomas* Broker Associate *LIV Sotheby's International Realty* 101 S. Main St. Breckenridge, Colorado 970-409-9133 www.teamthomasmountainhomes.com