Has anybody taken off the companionway hatch on a Cal 2 34?

Greetings, I'm hoping that someone out there has taken off the companionway hatch on their Cal 2 34 or any other Cal if they're all built the same way. I'm certain mine has never been disassembled and given the mold in the runner boards, (that's what I'm calling them because it seems to make sense) and on the inside of the hatch itself, it has to come to critical mass. The only thing that makes sense to me is to take off the runner boards the hatch sits on, (which I started doing yesterday), in the hopes that once the 2 side boards are out and the horizontal board is loose, I'll be able to push the hatch aft and pull it all the way out. It won't go forward because the lip can't get past the structure of the opening. It won't go aft with the running boards there because of the square "stop" behind the horizontal running board around the opening that has been put there for just that reason, to stop it. So I've unscrewed the 3 running boards and loosened 2 of them. The horizontal board is ready to be pryed up and I'm just hoping this is going to work. I keep thinking there must be some other way in as it seems they've built it from the inside out which makes it certainly effective for keeping the water out but nearly impossible to clean and refinish. If it weren't for the mold I'd leave it alone. Any suggestions or experience with this would be greatly appreciated. And yes I've dried it out but this is 42 years of build up with the last 20+ berthed in the PNW. Thanks for your help. Faith S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 Squalicum Harbor, Bellingham, WA

Hi, Faith. I’ve had the slider hatches off a number of Cal 25s (they usually do that by themselves). I did find out where to get slider track and how to put the hatch back together and install (a mission of several years). I do not know if there are similarities between the 25 and the 34. A 29 might be closer. I couldn’t find any photos on the web that concentrated on the hatch. I’ll try to find a Cal 29 in town that I can look at (very few 34s around here). Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Has anybody taken off the companionway hatch on a Cal 2 34? Greetings, I'm hoping that someone out there has taken off the companionway hatch on their Cal 2 34 or any other Cal if they're all built the same way. I'm certain mine has never been disassembled and given the mold in the runner boards, (that's what I'm calling them because it seems to make sense) and on the inside of the hatch itself, it has to come to critical mass. The only thing that makes sense to me is to take off the runner boards the hatch sits on, (which I started doing yesterday), in the hopes that once the 2 side boards are out and the horizontal board is loose, I'll be able to push the hatch aft and pull it all the way out. It won't go forward because the lip can't get past the structure of the opening. It won't go aft with the running boards there because of the square "stop" behind the horizontal running board around the opening that has been put there for just that reason, to stop it. So I've unscrewed the 3 running boards and loosened 2 of them. The horizontal board is ready to be pryed up and I'm just hoping this is going to work. I keep thinking there must be some other way in as it seems they've built it from the inside out which makes it certainly effective for keeping the water out but nearly impossible to clean and refinish. If it weren't for the mold I'd leave it alone. Any suggestions or experience with this would be greatly appreciated. And yes I've dried it out but this is 42 years of build up with the last 20+ berthed in the PNW. Thanks for your help. Faith S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 Squalicum Harbor, Bellingham, WA

Hi Charlie, Thanks for the response. I am hoping this will not be a project of several years . The slider tracks on the outside of what I'm calling the "running boards" are even more elusive than the running boards. I got to the boards by taking off the trim around the inside of the hatch opening and painstakingly unscrewing the flathead screws under the headliner which allowed me to loosen them up. Today I will find out if my theory of pushing the whole thing aft will work. Then, of course, comes the trick of how to put it all back together. Any input is greatly appreciated! Faith On 2017-06-05 09:11, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > Hi, Faith. I've had the slider hatches off a number of Cal 25s (they usually do that by themselves). I did find out where to get slider track and how to put the hatch back together and install (a mission of several years). I do not know if there are similarities between the 25 and the 34. A 29 might be closer. I couldn't find any photos on the web that concentrated on the hatch. I'll try to find a Cal 29 in town that I can look at (very few 34s around here). > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > FROM: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > SENT: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:51 AM > TO: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > SUBJECT: [Cal_Boats] Has anybody taken off the companionway hatch on a Cal 2 34? > > Greetings, > I'm hoping that someone out there has taken off the companionway hatch on their Cal 2 34 or any other Cal if they're all built the same way. I'm certain mine has never been disassembled and given the mold in the runner boards, (that's what I'm calling them because it seems to make sense) and on the inside of the hatch itself, it has to come to critical mass. > The only thing that makes sense to me is to take off the runner boards the hatch sits on, (which I started doing yesterday), in the hopes that once the 2 side boards are out and the horizontal board is loose, I'll be able to push the hatch aft and pull it all the way out. > It won't go forward because the lip can't get past the structure of the opening. It won't go aft with the running boards there because of the square "stop" behind the horizontal running board around the opening that has been put there for just that reason, to stop it. > So I've unscrewed the 3 running boards and loosened 2 of them. The horizontal board is ready to be pryed up and I'm just hoping this is going to work. I keep thinking there must be some other way in as it seems they've built it from the inside out which makes it certainly effective for keeping the water out but nearly impossible to clean and refinish. If it weren't for the mold I'd leave it alone. > Any suggestions or experience with this would be greatly appreciated. And yes I've dried it out but this is 42 years of build up with the last 20+ berthed in the PNW. > Thanks for your help. > Faith > S/V Sea Jewel > Cal 2 34 > Squalicum Harbor, Bellingham, WA > > Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/messages/43139;_ylc=X3oDMTJycjNxcmlpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzEzOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2NzkwODY-?act=reply&messageNum=43139 [2] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMjBvdW43BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2NzkwODY- [3] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/topics/43136;_ylc=X3oDMTM3a3JibmlnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzEzOQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2NzkwODYEdHBjSWQDNDMxMzY- [4] https://yho.com/1wwmgg [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcjhzcG9tBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2NzkwODY- [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJna2hlc3A2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDk2Njc5MDg2 [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcjI3OHE4BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ5NjY3OTA4Ng-- [8] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [9] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

Hi Faith, I recently too the hatch cover off our Cal 29 to refinish the teak rails. In my situation,if you take off one rail, or track, the lip on the sides of the hatch that fit into the rails, will slip out of the rail that's still attached and the hatch comes right off. On Monday, June 5, 2017 12:24 PM, "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from fs… [at] torchlake.com included below] Hi Charlie,Thanks for the response. I am hoping this will not be a project of several years . The slider tracks on the outside of what I'm calling the "running boards" are even more elusive than the running boards. I got to the boards by taking off the trim around the inside of the hatch opening and painstakingly unscrewing the flathead screws under the headliner which allowed me to loosen them up.Today I will find out if my theory of pushing the whole thing aft will work. Then, of course, comes the trick of how to put it all back together.Any input is greatly appreciated!Faith On 2017-06-05 09:11, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Hi, Faith. I've had the slider hatches off a number of Cal 25s (they usually do that by themselves). I did find out where to get slider track and how to put the hatch back together and install (a mission of several years). I do not know if there are similarities between the 25 and the 34. A 29 might be closer. I couldn't find any photos on the web that concentrated on the hatch. I'll try to find a Cal 29 in town that I can look at (very few 34s around here). Take CareCharlieAnnapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Has anybody taken off the companionway hatch on a Cal 2 34? Greetings, I'm hoping that someone out there has taken off the companionway hatch on their Cal 2 34 or any other Cal if they're all built the same way. I'm certain mine has never been disassembled and given the mold in the runner boards, (that's what I'm calling them because it seems to make sense) and on the inside of the hatch itself, it has to come to critical mass. The only thing that makes sense to me is to take off the runner boards the hatch sits on, (which I started doing yesterday), in the hopes that once the 2 side boards are out and the horizontal board is loose, I'll be able to push the hatch aft and pull it all the way out. It won't go forward because the lip can't get past the structure of the opening. It won't go aft with the running boards there because of the square "stop" behind the horizontal running board around the opening that has been put there for just that reason, to stop it. So I've unscrewed the 3 running boards and loosened 2 of them. The horizontal board is ready to be pryed up and I'm just hoping this is going to work. I keep thinking there must be some other way in as it seems they've built it from the inside out which makes it certainly effective for keeping the water out but nearly impossible to clean and refinish. If it weren't for the mold I'd leave it alone. Any suggestions or experience with this would be greatly appreciated. And yes I've dried it out but this is 42 years of build up with the last 20+ berthed in the PNW. Thanks for your help. Faith S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 Squalicum Harbor, Bellingham, WA

Hi Ken, Thanks for the input. Unfortunately the teak rails are actually much harder to get out than the running boards. Good news is I got them all out after unscrewing under the headliner and then prying with a flat head screwdriver to loosen the goop. Once the 2 sides were out the back one came out by sliding the hatch aft. Its a good thing ultimately as the running boards also have mold that needs to be sanded and then varnishes once I get it out. Painted the hatch with interlux today, (after lots of sanding yesterday), and she looks brand new. Here's hoping she goes back together without too much complexity! Happy sailing, Faith S/V Sea Jewel Squalicum harbor On 2017-06-05 10:00, Ken Gawry kw… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > [Attachment(s) from Ken Gawry included below] > > Hi Faith, > I recently too the hatch cover off our Cal 29 to refinish the teak rails. In my situation,if you take off one rail, or track, the lip on the sides of the hatch that fit into the rails, will slip out of the rail that's still attached and the hatch comes right off. > > On Monday, June 5, 2017 12:24 PM, "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) [1] from fs… [at] torchlake.com included below] > > Hi Charlie, > Thanks for the response. I am hoping this will not be a project of several years . The slider tracks on the outside of what I'm calling the "running boards" are even more elusive than the running boards. I got to the boards by taking off the trim around the inside of the hatch opening and painstakingly unscrewing the flathead screws under the headliner which allowed me to loosen them up. > Today I will find out if my theory of pushing the whole thing aft will work. Then, of course, comes the trick of how to put it all back together. > Any input is greatly appreciated! > Faith > > On 2017-06-05 09:11, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > >> Hi, Faith. I've had the slider hatches off a number of Cal 25s (they usually do that by themselves). I did find out where to get slider track and how to put the hatch back together and install (a mission of several years). I do not know if there are similarities between the 25 and the 34. A 29 might be closer. I couldn't find any photos on the web that concentrated on the hatch. I'll try to find a Cal 29 in town that I can look at (very few 34s around here). >> >> Take Care >> Charlie >> Annapolis >> >> FROM: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> SENT: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:51 AM >> TO: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> SUBJECT: [Cal_Boats] Has anybody taken off the companionway hatch on a Cal 2 34? >> >> Greetings, >> I'm hoping that someone out there has taken off the companionway hatch on their Cal 2 34 or any other Cal if they're all built the same way. I'm certain mine has never been disassembled and given the mold in the runner boards, (that's what I'm calling them because it seems to make sense) and on the inside of the hatch itself, it has to come to critical mass. >> The only thing that makes sense to me is to take off the runner boards the hatch sits on, (which I started doing yesterday), in the hopes that once the 2 side boards are out and the horizontal board is loose, I'll be able to push the hatch aft and pull it all the way out. >> It won't go forward because the lip can't get past the structure of the opening. It won't go aft with the running boards there because of the square "stop" behind the horizontal running board around the opening that has been put there for just that reason, to stop it. >> So I've unscrewed the 3 running boards and loosened 2 of them. The horizontal board is ready to be pryed up and I'm just hoping this is going to work. I keep thinking there must be some other way in as it seems they've built it from the inside out which makes it certainly effective for keeping the water out but nearly impossible to clean and refinish. If it weren't for the mold I'd leave it alone. >> Any suggestions or experience with this would be greatly appreciated. And yes I've dried it out but this is 42 years of build up with the last 20+ berthed in the PNW. >> Thanks for your help. >> Faith >> S/V Sea Jewel >> Cal 2 34 >> Squalicum Harbor, Bellingham, WA > > Links: ------ [1] https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.partner=sbc&amp;.rand=12ffiaou098vp#TopText [2] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/attachments/1152316173;_ylc=X3oDMTJyb3UwdG82BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDYXR0YWNobWVudARzbGsDdmlld09uV2ViBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2ODIwMDU- [3] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/attachments/1152316173;_ylc=X3oDMTJuMmNvNjRxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDYXR0YWNobWVudARzbGsDcGhvdG8Ec3RpbWUDMTQ5NjY4MjAwNQ--?itemid=1093441804 [4] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/messages/43142;_ylc=X3oDMTJybzAxYWl0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzE0MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2ODIwMDU-?act=reply&amp;messageNum=43142 [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmYTJ0bGRiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2ODIwMDU- [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/topics/43136;_ylc=X3oDMTM3bnRsbzZmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzE0MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2ODIwMDUEdHBjSWQDNDMxMzY- [7] https://yho.com/1wwmgg [8] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzczbzc0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0OTY2ODIwMDU- [9] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnOXRvdjZiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDk2NjgyMDA1 [10] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMGszamxwBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQ5NjY4MjAwNQ-- [11] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [12] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/