Hand rails Cal 2/30

Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30?

Hi, I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. Faith S/V Sea Jewel On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30? > Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/messages/43671;_ylc=X3oDMTJyaHMxYTdiBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzY3MQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MDY2OTc4NjE-?act=reply&messageNum=43671 [2] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMG9mZ3B0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MDY2OTc4NjE- [3] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/topics/43671;_ylc=X3oDMTM3NG41dDJxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzY3MQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MDY2OTc4NjEEdHBjSWQDNDM2NzE- [4] https://yho.com/1wwmgg [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmcnExZGZuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE1MDY2OTc4NjE- [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnbGU1YjcxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNTA2Njk3ODYx [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/photos/photostream;_ylc=X3oDMTJnNXQ2czNpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2cGhvdARzdGltZQMxNTA2Njk3ODYx [8] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbXEyajdpBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTUwNjY5Nzg2MQ-- [9] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [10] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). Just make sure to put some marine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. Brian G. LavisCommodore, Sea Scouts, Greater Los Angeles Area Council, Boy Scouts of Am… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 From: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 Hi,I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat.Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals.FaithS/V Sea Jewel On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30?

Brian, Thanks for your input on this project. Most helpful. Regards, Stan From: Brian Lavis bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Cal_Boats <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; fsw <fs… [at] torchlake.com> Sent: Sun, Oct 1, 2017 3:29 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). Just make sure to put some m arine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. Brian G. Lavis Commodore, Sea Scouts, Greater Los Angeles Area Council, Boy Scouts of America bl… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 From: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 Hi, I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. Faith S/V Sea Jewel On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30?

Hi Brian, Thanks for the info. Mine were already off when I got the boat and the previous owner did a beautiful job of refinishing them. I got new stainless screws when I put them back on and they wouldn't screw down flush. So I took them off again, found the old screws, (not phillips head), and put them back on with life boat caulk not in the holes but on the deck and the flat part of the grab rails. Now I'm having leaking issues on the starboard side where the short, (3 hole) grab rail is. Gonna put some more life boat caulk around where it joins to the deck and see if that takes care of it. If not I guess the next step will be take the headliner off and see what's going on under there.....never a dull moment with the boat. Faith S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 Squalicum harbor Bellingham, WA On 2017-10-01 12:29, Brian Lavis bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. > > If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). > > Just make sure to put some marine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. > > BRIAN G. LAVIS > COMMODORE, SEA SCOUTS, GREATER LOS ANGELES AREA COUNCIL, BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA > bl… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 > > ------------------------- > FROM: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > TO: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com > SENT: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM > SUBJECT: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 > > Hi, > I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. > Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. > Faith > S/V Sea Jewel > > On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > >> Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30? > > Links: ------ [1] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/messages/43674;_ylc=X3oDMTJyZjlrZjlyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzY3NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE1MDY4ODYxNzk-?act=reply&amp;messageNum=43674 [2] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNDhvbHJ0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MDY4ODYxNzk- [3] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/conversations/topics/43671;_ylc=X3oDMTM3amtocXUwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRtc2dJZAM0MzY3NARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE1MDY4ODYxNzkEdHBjSWQDNDM2NzE- [4] https://yho.com/1wwmgg [5] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmNGpocGMwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE1MDY4ODYxNzk- [6] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Cal_Boats/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnZXMzbGVyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNTA2ODg2MTc5 [7] https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJlcWx1djI3BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE2NDg1Njk1BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2NTc5MgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTUwNjg4NjE3OQ-- [8] https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html [9] https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/

Rebed with butyl as per these instructions (note that the place to buy the correct butyl is shown as well) and it will *never* leak again. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware&page=2 Regards, -Doug > On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for the info. Mine were already off when I got the boat and the previous owner did a beautiful job of refinishing them. I got new stainless screws when I put them back on and they wouldn't screw down flush. So I took them off again, found the old screws, (not phillips head), and put them back on with life boat caulk not in the holes but on the deck and the flat part of the grab rails. Now I'm having leaking issues on the starboard side where the short, (3 hole) grab rail is. Gonna put some more life boat caulk around where it joins to the deck and see if that takes care of it. If not I guess the next step will be take the headliner off and see what's going on under there.....never a dull moment with the boat. > > Faith > > S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 > > Squalicum harbor > > Bellingham, WA > > > > On 2017-10-01 12:29, Brian Lavis bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. >> >> If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). >> >> Just make sure to put some marine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. >> >> Brian G. Lavis >> Commodore, Sea Scouts, Greater Los Angeles Area Council, Boy Scouts of America >> bl… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 >> >> >> From: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com >> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 >> >> >> >> Hi, >> I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. >> Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. >> Faith >> S/V Sea Jewel >> >> >> On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> >> Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30? >> >> >> >> >> > >

I did rebed with butyl the first time around and that's why I couldn't get them to sit flush. The new screws were exactly the same size but wouldn't sit in all the way. Sooo frustrating! Can't put the butyl in the screw hole cuz it gets hung up around the screw hence the not sitting in all the way. I am a huge fan of butyl tape but it doesn't work so well if you can't get to the other side of what you're bedding to put the pressure on it that it needs to sit down tightly. Perhaps I'm missing something with this......... Faith On 2017-10-02 08:38, Doug Hoffman wrote: > Rebed with butyl as per these instructions (note that the place to buy the correct butyl is shown as well) and it will *never* leak again. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware&page=2 > > Regards, -Doug On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for the info. Mine were already off when I got the boat and the previous owner did a beautiful job of refinishing them. I got new stainless screws when I put them back on and they wouldn't screw down flush. So I took them off again, found the old screws, (not phillips head), and put them back on with life boat caulk not in the holes but on the deck and the flat part of the grab rails. Now I'm having leaking issues on the starboard side where the short, (3 hole) grab rail is. Gonna put some more life boat caulk around where it joins to the deck and see if that takes care of it. If not I guess the next step will be take the headliner off and see what's going on under there.....never a dull moment with the boat. > > Faith > > S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 > > Squalicum harbor > > Bellingham, WA > > On 2017-10-01 12:29, Brian Lavis bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. > > If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). > > Just make sure to put some marine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. > > Brian G. Lavis > Commodore, Sea Scouts, Greater Los Angeles Area Council, Boy Scouts of America > bl… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 > > From: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 > > Hi, > I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. > Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. > Faith > S/V Sea Jewel > > On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30? > >

1) make sure your butyl comes from the source in the link 2) chamfer the holes as shown in the link 3) if necessary, buy screws 1/8” or whatever longer The butyl doesn’t really go “in” the screw hole to form a seal although no problem if it does. Rather it forms a gasket, a gasket that tightly encircles the thru-deck bolt. I had no problems but it sounds like your original screws were just barely long enough and/or you had the wrong kind of butyl. I had such great luck with butyl (ease of installation, seals up the most stubborn leak) that I now use it for all through deck hardware bedding. Chainplates, cleats, tracks, handrails, hatches, whatever). -Doug > On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:44 AM, fs… [at] torchlake.com wrote: > > I did rebed with butyl the first time around and that's why I couldn't get them to sit flush. The new screws were exactly the same size but wouldn't sit in all the way. Sooo frustrating! Can't put the butyl in the screw hole cuz it gets hung up around the screw hence the not sitting in all the way. > > I am a huge fan of butyl tape but it doesn't work so well if you can't get to the other side of what you're bedding to put the pressure on it that it needs to sit down tightly. Perhaps I'm missing something with this......... > > Faith > > > > On 2017-10-02 08:38, Doug Hoffman wrote: > >> Rebed with butyl as per these instructions (note that the place to buy the correct butyl is shown as well) and it will *never* leak again. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware&page=2 >> >> Regards, -Doug >>> On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> Thanks for the info. Mine were already off when I got the boat and the previous owner did a beautiful job of refinishing them. I got new stainless screws when I put them back on and they wouldn't screw down flush. So I took them off again, found the old screws, (not phillips head), and put them back on with life boat caulk not in the holes but on the deck and the flat part of the grab rails. Now I'm having leaking issues on the starboard side where the short, (3 hole) grab rail is. Gonna put some more life boat caulk around where it joins to the deck and see if that takes care of it. If not I guess the next step will be take the headliner off and see what's going on under there.....never a dull moment with the boat. >>> >>> Faith >>> >>> S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 >>> >>> Squalicum harbor >>> >>> Bellingham, WA >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2017-10-01 12:29, Brian Lavis bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. >>>> >>>> If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). >>>> >>>> Just make sure to put some marine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. >>>> >>>> Brian G. Lavis >>>> Commodore, Sea Scouts, Greater Los Angeles Area Council, Boy Scouts of America >>>> bl… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >>>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com >>>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. >>>> Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. >>>> Faith >>>> S/V Sea Jewel >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >>>> >>>> Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>

Ok, I'll check out the link as maybe the issue is the wrong kind of butyl. I did reuse the butyl I have to rebed the hardware for the salon hatch when I took that off to scrape and repaint and it worked great! That's why I'm so stumped. Faith On 2017-10-02 08:56, Doug Hoffman wrote: > 1) make sure your butyl comes from the source in the link > 2) chamfer the holes as shown in the link > 3) if necessary, buy screws 1/8" or whatever longer > > The butyl doesn't really go "in" the screw hole to form a seal although no problem if it does. Rather it forms a gasket, a gasket that tightly encircles the thru-deck bolt. I had no problems but it sounds like your original screws were just barely long enough and/or you had the wrong kind of butyl. I had such great luck with butyl (ease of installation, seals up the most stubborn leak) that I now use it for all through deck hardware bedding. Chainplates, cleats, tracks, handrails, hatches, whatever). > > -Doug > > On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:44 AM, fs… [at] torchlake.com wrote: > > I did rebed with butyl the first time around and that's why I couldn't get them to sit flush. The new screws were exactly the same size but wouldn't sit in all the way. Sooo frustrating! Can't put the butyl in the screw hole cuz it gets hung up around the screw hence the not sitting in all the way. > > I am a huge fan of butyl tape but it doesn't work so well if you can't get to the other side of what you're bedding to put the pressure on it that it needs to sit down tightly. Perhaps I'm missing something with this......... > > Faith > > On 2017-10-02 08:38, Doug Hoffman wrote: > > Rebed with butyl as per these instructions (note that the place to buy the correct butyl is shown as well) and it will *never* leak again. http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/rebedding_hardware&page=2 > > Regards, -Doug On Oct 2, 2017, at 11:34 AM, fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > Thanks for the info. Mine were already off when I got the boat and the previous owner did a beautiful job of refinishing them. I got new stainless screws when I put them back on and they wouldn't screw down flush. So I took them off again, found the old screws, (not phillips head), and put them back on with life boat caulk not in the holes but on the deck and the flat part of the grab rails. Now I'm having leaking issues on the starboard side where the short, (3 hole) grab rail is. Gonna put some more life boat caulk around where it joins to the deck and see if that takes care of it. If not I guess the next step will be take the headliner off and see what's going on under there.....never a dull moment with the boat. > > Faith > > S/V Sea Jewel Cal 2 34 > > Squalicum harbor > > Bellingham, WA > > On 2017-10-01 12:29, Brian Lavis bl… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > I have a Cal 30 (original model). In order to get the handrails off I had to slide one of those vibrating tools in between the wood and the deck, because the handrails were originally screwed into the deck before the hull and deck were joined. A couple of screws lined up perfectly so that they were right where the bulkheads were located. > > If I have to do it again, I will replace them with stainless. They are a pain to keep maintained (teak oiled). > > Just make sure to put some marine silicone in the holes when you put them back. I used "dress up" washers instead of trying to hide the screw holes on the inside. > > Brian G. Lavis > Commodore, Sea Scouts, Greater Los Angeles Area Council, Boy Scouts of America > bl… [at] sbcglobal.net or cell phone at 213-761-6807 > > From: "fs… [at] torchlake.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; sk… [at] aol.com > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 9:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Hand rails Cal 2/30 > > Hi, > I just redid the grab rails on the starboard side of my Cal 2 34. The previous owner had taken them off to varnish etc and was planning to do some deck work and then I bought the boat. > Did you have specific questions about it? I would guess it would be the same process for all the Cals. > Faith > S/V Sea Jewel > > On 2017-09-29 08:10, sk… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > Has anyone had experience with replacing the cabin top hand rails on a CAL 2/30? > >