Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions

I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Thanks for the input, here�s some great stuff here! I�ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073 (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I searched the topic but couldn�t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It�s a rollup, so it isn�t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn�t going to see everyday use. More likely we�ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we�re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we already have that on board too. Thanks for any help! Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields iflperfecttouch.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc

Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a necessity. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; gb… [at] yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > writes: Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net <mailto:jr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073 <tel:336-210-8073> (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we already have that on board too. Thanks for any help! Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc> We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields iflperfecttouch.com <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc

Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? P. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a necessity. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; gb… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> writes: Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com<mailto:ca… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net<mailto:jr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073<tel:336-210-8073> (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we already have that on board too. Thanks for any help! Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields iflperfecttouch.com <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc>http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc [Image removed by sender. SponsoredBy Content.Ad]

Batteries are heavy and take up space in the boat is my first thought. And for me I always like having something I can fuel quickly. Leslie On Monday, October 23, 2017, 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? > > > > P. > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');> [mailto: > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>] > *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>; > rj… [at] juno.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rj… [at] juno.com');> > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions > > > > > > Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs > indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. > > > > The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would > get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a > necessity. > > > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');> [ > mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>] > *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>; > gb… [at] yahoo.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gb… [at] yahoo.com');> > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions > > > > > I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you > run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the > boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 > we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have > been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not > have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. > > > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > > 1979 O'DAY DS II > > previously co-owned "NODROG" > > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gb… [at] yahoo.com');> [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>> writes: > > > > Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run > the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking > like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. > > Greg > > On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ca… [at] gmail.com');> [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>> wrote: > > > > In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your > outboard will love you for it! > > Fred Haas > > 3-30 Nemesis > > Tacoma > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jr… [at] att.net');> [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>> wrote: > > > > > > > We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just > rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. > > > > > The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always > run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 > week or a month. > > > > I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. > > John Raxter > > 336-210-8073 (m) > > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gb… [at] yahoo.com');> [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com');>> wrote: > > > > > > I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to > post my questions in a new topic. > > > > I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an > outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the > list could help. My questions are: > > > > 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that > appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth > considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I > hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we > have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter > weight would be better there. > > 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a > little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so > the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get > to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to > Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) > > 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of > availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a > propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we > already have that on board too. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > Greg Beron > > Cal 29 Happy Hour > > Marina del Rey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields* > iflperfecttouch.com > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc > [image: Image removed by sender. SponsoredBy Content.Ad] > > >

YOU ARE RIGHT—A LIGHTER WEIGHT MOTOR IS BETTER! You will use it more if it is easy to get on and off. The Honda Air Cooled 2 – 2.5hp are about as light as you get and everyone swears by them. My main complaint is that the motor is too loud – the noise is a major drawback of the air cooled. The cooling water inside the motor helps dampen the noise. Also the Honda air cooled models have a centrifugal clutch – there is no neutral. To reverse you have let the RPMs go to idle, turn the motor around 180 deg and then rev it up. Some of the other 2.5 -3.5-6hp models (Nissan, Tohatsu and some other companies are almost identical depending on which years. They are just rebranded and few other changes- same factory makes them all) have a neutral and forward, which does allow a little better control in tight places. You can put the motor in neutral, and immediately start rotating the motor for reverse without waiting. Some people complain that sometimes when starting a centrifugal clutch Honda they get an unwanted burst of power. You don’t get to a full forward, N, reverse gearbox until you get to 4-4.5hp. The Honda is roughly 32lbs, the 2.5-3.5hp Tohatsu models about 42lbs, and the 4.5 to 6hp with full gearboxes run 60-70lbs. One other item; Starting in 2016, the Tohatsu 3.5hp and similar models started using a fuel pump-even though they only come with top mounted fuel tanks and are not set up for external tanks. The Tohatsu dealer said the gravity fed models without the pump often had problems getting the fuel flow started. I bought a 2016 Tohatsu 3.5hp and installed a remote tank fitting (completely disconnecting the top mount built-in fuel tank.) That way I can run for hours and hours without filling the gas. Filling the gravity fed top mount tanks while the dinghy is in the water, can be messy. I have had zero problems—probably on 20 hours total operation since new. Also, since I wanted to be able to use my dinghy and motor as a backup propulsion means, I installed a slight smaller pitch propeller when I purchased the motor new. Like you mentioned, I was not going to be planing anyway. Greg S/V Evania Cal 31

I’d also wonder about peoples’ experience with the Lehr propanes. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Philip A. Lewis [mailto:ph… [at] phillewis.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:40 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com>; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? P. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a necessity. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ; gb… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > writes: Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com <mailto:ca… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net <mailto:jr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073 <tel:336-210-8073> (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we already have that on board too. Thanks for any help! Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc> We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields iflperfecttouch.com <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc

I have a 2.5HP Lehr and love it. While both the 2.5 nd 5HP will run on disposable camp stove bottles, I use a figerglass 11# which gives me up to 25 hours of run time at half throttle. I love the fact that it starts easily and appreciate that I don't have to worry about stale fuel in the motor or water issues with gasoline. Murph'

we have used a 55lb thrust salt water Minnkota for several years on our 10 ft high pressure floor inflatable. not fast, but always dependable. No gasoline or extra oil onboard. Reggie Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:40 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? P. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a necessity. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; gb… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> writes: Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com<mailto:ca… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net<mailto:jr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073<tel:336-210-8073> (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:gb… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. 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seems silly to ask but what does avon recommend? john b s/v 1983 catalina 27 On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 8:04:55 AM CDT, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: we have used a 55lb thrust salt water Minnkota for several years on our 10 ft high pressure floor inflatable. not fast, but always dependable. No gasoline or extra oil onboard. Reggie Sent from Outlook From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:40 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? P. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a necessity. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com;gb… [at] yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Ha… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073 (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we already have that on board too. Thanks for any help! Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields iflperfecttouch.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc

The manual says 5hp max. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 8:49 AM, Mail jh… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: [Attachment(s) from Mail included below] seems silly to ask but what does avon recommend? john b s/v 1983 catalina 27 On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 8:04:55 AM CDT, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: we have used a 55lb thrust salt water Minnkota for several years on our 10 ft high pressure floor inflatable. not fast, but always dependable. No gasoline or extra oil onboard. Reggie Sent from Outlook From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:40 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? P. From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a necessity. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com;gb… [at] yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. Greg On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Ha… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your outboard will love you for it! Fred Haas 3-30 Nemesis Tacoma On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 week or a month. I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. John Raxter 336-210-8073 (m) On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to post my questions in a new topic. I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the list could help. My questions are: 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter weight would be better there. 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we already have that on board too. Thanks for any help! Greg Beron Cal 29 Happy Hour Marina del Rey We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields iflperfecttouch.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc

If your ever somewhere and need to go a mile, planning is a big deal. I have davits to lift my boat at night for security when cruising so I wont be lifting the motor too often by hand except when the trips done. But nothing beats hitting the throttle and it taking off like a little jet. Speaking of which I have a yamaha 6 im selling to get a 9.9. Also a 12ft porta boat Im selling I went to a 10 ft Achiles aluminum rib. At first I was ok i didnt plane with my wife and I until Ive spent an hour getting to and island I can see is not very far. Also there was the one night I was going out alone on glass like water and it did plane with just me in it and I was shocked how fast it was! That yamaha 6 WILL plane the porta bote all day with two but not the rib.Matthew,Cal 33.2 Warm Winds -- {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} {margin-bottom:10px;} .yiv3431283628ad {padding:0 0;} .yiv3431283628ad p {margin:0;} .yiv3431283628ad a {color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} {font-family:Arial;} {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} .yiv3431283628ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;} {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;} span {font-weight:700;} span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;} span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;} span span {color:#ff7900;} span .yiv3431283628underline {text-decoration:underline;} .yiv3431283628attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;} .yiv3431283628attach div a {text-decoration:none;} .yiv3431283628attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;} .yiv3431283628attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;} .yiv3431283628attach label a {text-decoration:none;} blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;} .yiv3431283628bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;} .yiv3431283628bold a {text-decoration:none;} dd.yiv3431283628last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv3431283628last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;} dd.yiv3431283628last p span.yiv3431283628yshortcuts {margin-right:0;} div.yiv3431283628attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv3431283628attach-table {width:400px;} div.yiv3431283628file-title a, div.yiv3431283628file-title a:active, div.yiv3431283628file-title a:hover, div.yiv3431283628file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div.yiv3431283628photo-title a, div.yiv3431283628photo-title a:active, div.yiv3431283628photo-title a:hover, div.yiv3431283628photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;} div p a span.yiv3431283628yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;} .yiv3431283628green {color:#628c2a;} .yiv3431283628MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;} o {font-size:0;} div {float:left;width:72px;} div div {border:1px solid #666666;min-height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;} div label {color:#666666;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;} {font-size:77%;} {font-size:77%;} .yiv3431283628replbq {margin:4px;} div a:first-child {margin-right:2px;padding-right:5px;} {font-size:13px;font-family:Arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} select, input, textarea {font:99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} pre, code {font:115% monospace;} * {line-height:1.22em;} {padding-bottom:10px;} p a {font-family:Verdana;} p span {color:#1E66AE;font-weight:700;} {color:#ff7900;font-weight:700;} {margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} li a {font-size:130%;text-decoration:none;} li {font-size:77%;list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;} ul {margin:0;padding:0 0 0 8px;} {font-family:Georgia;} p {margin:0 0 1em 0;} tt {font-size:120%;} ul li:last-child {border-right:none !important;} | | Virus-free. www.avg.com |

I also used a 55 lb thrust electric MinnKota for years, but got tired of lifting the 40+ lb battery in and out, so switched back to good old oars. 90% of the times oars are all I need (and I can always use the workout, too) but one big downside is that the range of motion of the oars cuts into my useable space and makes passenger logistics more difficult. I've been eyeing the Honda 2.3BF lately, which would be about half the weight of my electric/battery setup, and they seem efficient enough that the integral tank should be enough to easily get me through a weekend... AJ S/V Wing Song 1966 Cal 36 #32 On Oct 24, 2017 7:49 AM, "Mail jh… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > [Attachment(s) <#m_5643424650385273277_TopText> from Mail included below] > > seems silly to ask but what does avon recommend? > > john b s/v 1983 catalina 27 > > > On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 8:04:55 AM CDT, r good my… [at] hotmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > we have used a 55lb thrust salt water Minnkota for several years on our 10 > ft high pressure floor inflatable. not fast, but always dependable. No > gasoline or extra oil onboard. Reggie > > > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf > of 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 6:40 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar; rj… [at] juno.com > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions > > > > Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? > > > > P. > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions > > > > > > Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the specs > indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. > > > > The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would > get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a > necessity. > > > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; gb… [at] yahoo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions > > > > > I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you > run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the > boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 > we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have > been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not > have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. > > > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > > 1979 O'DAY DS II > > previously co-owned "NODROG" > > 1970 CAL 21 #285 > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: > > > > Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run > the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking > like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. > > Greg > > On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your > outboard will love you for it! > > Fred Haas > > 3-30 Nemesis > > Tacoma > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just > rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. > > > > > The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I always > run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either just 1 > week or a month. > > > > I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. > > John Raxter > > 336-210-8073 (m) > > > On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to > post my questions in a new topic. > > > > I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an > outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the > list could help. My questions are: > > > > 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that > appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth > considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I > hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we > have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter > weight would be better there. > > 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a > little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so > the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get > to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to > Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) > > 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of > availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a > propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we > already have that on board too. > > > > Thanks for any help! > > Greg Beron > > Cal 29 Happy Hour > > Marina del Rey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields* > iflperfecttouch.com > > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fthirdpartyoffers.juno.com%2FTGL3142%2F59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc&data=02%7C01%7Cmy1972ih%40hotmail.com%7Cd928b4bd90744c1a2e2208d51a7812f1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636444025368142612&sdata=Q9ZHojeqAHSp1JC2Ua%2B%2Bsi3JHPTXzCB4ottviU2ieTE%3D&reserved=0> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc > <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fthirdpartyoffers.juno.com%2FTGL3142%2F59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc&data=02%7C01%7Cmy1972ih%40hotmail.com%7Cd928b4bd90744c1a2e2208d51a7812f1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636444025368142612&sdata=Q9ZHojeqAHSp1JC2Ua%2B%2Bsi3JHPTXzCB4ottviU2ieTE%3D&reserved=0> > [image: Image removed by sender. 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Mine is a 1959 Evinrude Lightwin 3hp. I thought it was 2hp, but was mistaken. Friend gave it to me in a box, in pieces, for helping him move. He'd taken it apart to replace the coils and that was as far as he got. It sit in my shop for about eight years. This past summer I dug it out, replaced the coils, points and pump impeller. Timed it and it runs great. Still can get parts for these old motors and they are pretty reliable. And the price was right. Leslie On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:14 PM, aJ ak… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > I also used a 55 lb thrust electric MinnKota for years, but got tired of > lifting the 40+ lb battery in and out, so switched back to good old oars. > 90% of the times oars are all I need (and I can always use the workout, > too) but one big downside is that the range of motion of the oars cuts into > my useable space and makes passenger logistics more difficult. I've been > eyeing the Honda 2.3BF lately, which would be about half the weight of my > electric/battery setup, and they seem efficient enough that the integral > tank should be enough to easily get me through a weekend... > > AJ > S/V Wing Song > 1966 Cal 36 #32 > > On Oct 24, 2017 7:49 AM, "Mail jh… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> [Attachment(s) <#m_-152743871556571456_m_5643424650385273277_TopText> >> from Mail included below] >> >> seems silly to ask but what does avon recommend? >> >> john b s/v 1983 catalina 27 >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017, 8:04:55 AM CDT, r good my… [at] hotmail.com >> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> we have used a 55lb thrust salt water Minnkota for several years on our >> 10 ft high pressure floor inflatable. not fast, but always dependable. No >> gasoline or extra oil onboard. Reggie >> >> >> >> Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf >> of 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 6:40 PM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Charlie Husar; rj… [at] juno.com >> *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions >> >> >> >> Anybody have any thoughts on or experience with the electric motors? >> >> >> >> P. >> >> >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 4:43 PM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; rj… [at] juno.com >> *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions >> >> >> >> >> >> Rod, the Tohatsu 2.5 is a 360 degree swivel steering engine, but the >> specs indicate that it does have neutral and drive gears. >> >> >> >> The gas tank is quite small. Don’t know how many hours/miles one would >> get out of a quarter gallon. Gas can (maybe a gallon) sounds like a >> necessity. >> >> >> >> Take Care >> >> Charlie >> >> Annapolis >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] >> *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2017 7:30 PM >> *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; gb… [at] yahoo.com >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions >> >> >> >> >> I will add that having a neutral clutch is a BIG advantage! That lets you >> run the gas out of the carburetor easier, as you don't need to hold the >> boat from moving forward while doing so. That was the reason that in 2005 >> we bought a Mercury 3.3 (2-stroke) instead of the 2.5 hp that might have >> been a better horsepower match for our 8' rigid dinghy, the 2.5 did not >> have the clutch although engine block and cowling were the same as 3.3. >> >> >> >> Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >> >> 1979 O'DAY DS II >> >> previously co-owned "NODROG" >> >> 1970 CAL 21 #285 >> >> >> >> On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 22:35:32 +0000 (UTC) "Greg Beron gb… [at] yahoo.com >> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: >> >> >> >> Thanks for the input, here’s some great stuff here! I’ll be sure to run >> the engine dry and buy fuel from the fuel dock. Also, 3.5 hp is looking >> like a good balance of engine weight vs performance. >> >> Greg >> >> On Monday, October 23, 2017, 2:12 PM, Fred Haas ca… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> In addition to running it dry, please seek out non-ethanol fuel. Your >> outboard will love you for it! >> >> Fred Haas >> >> 3-30 Nemesis >> >> Tacoma >> >> On Oct 23, 2017, at 1:57 PM, John Raxter jr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> We purchased a mercury 3.3 for our dingy when we decided against just >> rowing. It always seemed we were rowing against the wind, coming and going. >> >> >> >> >> The 3.3 has provided great service, lightweight and trouble free. I >> always run the engine dry to clear the carburetor when in storage, either >> just 1 week or a month. >> >> >> >> I think that is the trick to easy starting and storage. >> >> John Raxter >> >> 336-210-8073 (m) >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2017, at 4:10 PM, gb… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I searched the topic but couldn’t find anything useful, so I decided to >> post my questions in a new topic. >> >> >> >> I just bought a used Avon 310 rollup inflatable and am looking for an >> outboard. I know nothing about this kind of boat but figured someone on the >> list could help. My questions are: >> >> >> >> 1. What size outboard should I look for? The manual says 5hp but that >> appears to be a maximum. Would a smaller, lighter engine be worth >> considering? It’s a rollup, so it isn’t going to plane no matter what I >> hang on the back. And a smaller engine would be easier to lift. Also, we >> have what I think are outboard mounting pads on our pushpit and lighter >> weight would be better there. >> >> 2. New or used? I got a good enough deal on the inflatable to spend a >> little more on the outboard but the boat is in a slip, not on a mooring, so >> the tender isn’t going to see everyday use. More likely we’ll use it to get >> to the dinghy dock on the occasional trip to Catalina or day trips to >> Redondo. Or Killer Shrimp ;) >> >> 3. Gas or propane? Most advice against propane cites a lack of >> availability but we’re in Marina de Rey, not New Guinea. Also, we have a >> propane stove and grill already. OTOH, our Atomic 4 uses gasoline, so we >> already have that on board too. >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help! >> >> Greg Beron >> >> Cal 29 Happy Hour >> >> Marina del Rey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> *We Say GoodBye To Sally Fields* >> iflperfecttouch.com >> >> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fthirdpartyoffers.juno.com%2FTGL3142%2F59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc&data=02%7C01%7Cmy1972ih%40hotmail.com%7Cd928b4bd90744c1a2e2208d51a7812f1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636444025368142612&sdata=Q9ZHojeqAHSp1JC2Ua%2B%2Bsi3JHPTXzCB4ottviU2ieTE%3D&reserved=0> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc >> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fthirdpartyoffers.juno.com%2FTGL3142%2F59ee7bdf5fd5a7bdf32fast03duc&data=02%7C01%7Cmy1972ih%40hotmail.com%7Cd928b4bd90744c1a2e2208d51a7812f1%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636444025368142612&sdata=Q9ZHojeqAHSp1JC2Ua%2B%2Bsi3JHPTXzCB4ottviU2ieTE%3D&reserved=0> >> [image: Image removed by sender. 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where and how much on the Portaboat? why did you change to the rib? Reggie Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 10:03 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; th… [at] hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions If your ever somewhere and need to go a mile, planning is a big deal. I have davits to lift my boat at night for security when cruising so I wont be lifting the motor too often by hand except when the trips done. But nothing beats hitting the throttle and it taking off like a little jet. Speaking of which I have a yamaha 6 im selling to get a 9.9. Also a 12ft porta boat Im selling I went to a 10 ft Achiles aluminum rib. At first I was ok i didnt plane with my wife and I until Ive spent an hour getting to and island I can see is not very far. Also there was the one night I was going out alone on glass like water and it did plane with just me in it and I was shocked how fast it was! That yamaha 6 WILL plane the porta bote all day with two but not the rib. Matthew, Cal 33.2 Warm Winds [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Femail-signature%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail&data=02%7C01%7Cmy1972ih%40hotmail.com%7Cd644be063af24aecefde08d51af8becd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636444578003534228&sdata=KWHZXnyxRgt7FQGtYHhn6vY21MLErB4NIdNF4brl7B8%3D&reserved=0> Virus-free. www.avg.com<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avg.com%2Femail-signature%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Dwebmail&data=02%7C01%7Cmy1972ih%40hotmail.com%7Cd644be063af24aecefde08d51af8becd%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636444578003534228&sdata=KWHZXnyxRgt7FQGtYHhn6vY21MLErB4NIdNF4brl7B8%3D&reserved=0>

Hey Reggie,Sorry for the late reply. I switched to and rib becuase I felt safer about if an rib would get full of water vs the Porta bote. Also the Porta bote was really to long for my davit's. I'm asking 1200 for it with the factory bimini. It's in N Alabama. I travel often to fl where my Cal is stored so it could be delivered in that area. Matthew From: r good <my… [at] hotmail.com> Date: 10/25/17 8:06 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com, matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions <!-- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} --> where and how much on the Portaboat? why did you change to the rib? Reggie Sent from Outlook From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of matthew ma… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 10:03 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; th… [at] hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Dinghy (tender) outboard questions If your ever somewhere and need to go a mile, planning is a big deal. I have davits to lift my boat at night for security when cruising so I wont be lifting the motor too often by hand except when the trips done. But nothing beats hitting the throttle and it taking off like a little jet. Speaking of which I have a yamaha 6 im selling to get a 9.9. Also a 12ft porta boat Im selling I went to a 10 ft Achiles aluminum rib. At first I was ok i didnt plane with my wife and I until Ive spent an hour getting to and island I can see is not very far. Also there was the one night I was going out alone on glass like water and it did plane with just me in it and I was shocked how fast it was! That yamaha 6 WILL plane the porta bote all day with two but not the rib. Matthew, Cal 33.2 Warm Winds Virus-free. www.avg.com Posted by: matthew <ma… [at] yahoo.com> Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (17)