Re: [Cal_Boats] Leak in my 2-27

Charlie, I too think most if not all of the CALs were molded as one-piece hulls, not as separate port and starboard halves, unless any models had enough tumblehome to require 2-part molds? I don't think any did, but........ Every picture that I've seen from the JENSEN Marine Factories shows one-piece hull molds. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 11:22:47 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I�ve seen a few cases where there is a small crack at the back of the keel right where it meets the hull. I think it had to do with resin starvation in a hard to get to spot at lay-up. The rudder post sleeve is nothing but a fiberglass tube on many Cals (some POs installed bearings top and bottom). I small crack at the bottom of the sleeve where it meets the hull is also possible. Someone mentioned that that the Cal hulls were as side to side halves, then bonded together. I know that many Js are built that way, but U thought that all Cals were laid up as full hulls. Take Care Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:11 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Edward Stancil <e.… [at] gmail.com> Cc: Bruce Boyles <br… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Leak in my 2-27 Sitting still or underway? My Cal 33-2 had a leak from stern underway. I crawled back there while the wife was steering and found one of the plastic thru hulls, normally out of the water at rest, submerged motoring. It needed rebedding. I replaced all of the stern thru-hulls and rebedded all during installation of course. No more leak. On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Our Cal 36 had a leak from shaft log And the previous owner had yard Remove engine and reglass the Shaft tube ..top and bottom.. Most cals hulls made with 2 half s Port and starboard in rear where They meet they put the shaft log ...a fiberglass tube which the Shaft goes through...you need To CLEAN YOUR BILGE. ..and Find where the water is coming From...now that its clean.. 1 st...3 places..shaft log packing nut 2nd ...rudder post dive head first In Lazarette and see if it leaking At base ...take shop vacuum And see if you can more wetness.. 3rd the tube as it goes though the Hull also the seam as it goes forward Chances are that your saft log Need s adjustable or more Packing.. You should find the leak in The water.. than if you hull out Its harder to find ...4 feet of water = Pressure 5 to 8 psi. (est) Clean bilge makes all the difference Edward Cal 36 Cal2.27 On Dec 11, 2017 9:09 AM, "Bruce Boyles br… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I've got a steady trickle of water that enters the bilge from the stern. There is no water visible under the cockpit covers and no water under the engine. It appears to be under the fiberglass on which the engine is attached. If you reach toward the stern at the top of the bilge, you can feel the trickle coming a gap between the hull (I guess) and the fiberglass floor on which the engine is mounted. Has anyone experienced this sort of leak and give me an idea from where it could be coming? Would a leak in a rudder post seal cause something like this? I will probably have the boat hauled soon to inspect the bottom but it would be nice if I could correct this without hauling. Thanks for any help, Bruce Duchess Says Goodbye To Royal Family risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5a31a5b6613a625b64623st01duc

This is interesting.. a friend and I had an Alauela hull made in Costa mesa in early 70s and had it trucked to Santa Cruz to finish out with deck, bulkheads, everything. We watched it being made in a female one piece mold. They gelcoated entire mold, then rotated and did layers snd chopper gun on each half. Probably so it wouldn't run to the bottom. This wasnt a fin keel. Encapsulated keel would be hard to form vertically (in my fiberglass experience). I found, in our 67 cal 36, that the glass and resin in the keel cavity beneath the sole had oozed/run out of the layers on the sides into puddles of resin that didn't cure fast enough to stay up. P.O. repaired back of keel and shaft log . We found more example of halves when we removed mini skeg between keel and rudder shaft (soft spot as another member here found) to expose. We beefed up From keel to aft of rudder post. Another 36 had PO'S sand the bow to keel front too much, which is easy to do, and while in heavy seas opened up exactly as a seam to begin a leak. But gelcoat was normally first and seamless. I believe the hunt designs had bolt-on keels. Some Cals like the 20, 3-30, had bolt -on. Or swing in some models. We are additionally beefing up the bow from side to side inside the anchor locker and berth compartment. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:13 PM, rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:  Charlie,I too think most if not all of the CALs were molded as one-piece hulls, not as separate port and starboard halves, unless any models had enough tumblehome to require 2-part molds? I don't think any did, but........Every picture that I've seen from the JENSEN Marine Factories shows one-piece hull molds. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD"1979 O'DAY DS II On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 11:22:47 -0500 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I’ve seen a few cases where there is a small crack at the back of the keel right where it meets the hull. I think it had to do with resin starvation in a hard to get to spot at lay-up. The rudder post sleeve is nothing but a fiberglass tube on many Cals (some POs installed bearings top and bottom). I small crack at the bottom of the sleeve where it meets the hull is also possible. Someone mentioned that that the Cal hulls were as side to side halves, then bonded together. I know that many Js are built that way, but U thought that all Cals were laid up as full hulls. Take Care Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:11 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Edward Stancil <e.… [at] gmail.com> Cc: Bruce Boyles <br… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Leak in my 2-27 Sitting still or underway? My Cal 33-2 had a leak from stern underway. I crawled back there while the wife was steering and found one of the plastic thru hulls, normally out of the water at rest, submerged motoring. It needed rebedding. I replaced all of the stern thru-hulls and rebedded all during installation of course. No more leak. On Tuesday, December 12, 2017, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Our Cal 36 had a leak from shaft log And the previous owner had yard Remove engine and reglass the Shaft tube ..top and bottom.. Most cals hulls made with 2 half s Port and starboard in rear where They meet they put the shaft log ...a fiberglass tube which the Shaft goes through...you need To CLEAN YOUR BILGE. ..and Find where the water is coming From...now that its clean.. 1 st...3 places..shaft log packing nut 2nd ...rudder post dive head first In Lazarette and see if it leaking At base ...take shop vacuum And see if you can more wetness.. 3rd the tube as it goes though the Hull also the seam as it goes forward Chances are that your saft log Need s adjustable or more Packing.. You should find the leak in The water.. than if you hull out Its harder to find ...4 feet of water = Pressure 5 to 8 psi. (est) Clean bilge makes all the difference Edward Cal 36 Cal2.27 On Dec 11, 2017 9:09 AM, "Bruce Boyles br… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I've got a steady trickle of water that enters the bilge from the stern. There is no water visible under the cockpit covers and no water under the engine. It appears to be under the fiberglass on which the engine is attached. If you reach toward the stern at the top of the bilge, you can feel the trickle coming a gap between the hull (I guess) and the fiberglass floor on which the engine is mounted. Has anyone experienced this sort of leak and give me an idea from where it could be coming? Would a leak in a rudder post seal cause something like this? I will probably have the boat hauled soon to inspect the bottom but it would be nice if I could correct this without hauling. Thanks for any help, Bruce Duchess Says Goodbye To Royal Family risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5a31a5b6613a625b64623st01duc