rubrail replacement

I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

Leave it off, plug the holes, That is what fenders are for. Keep it simple, every hole in the hull is a potential leak. less drag thru the water when on the wind. less maintenance. MY OOPINION after 50 years on the water and a lot of time working on boats! Mike Farrell Yellow Jack US57313 On ‎Saturday‎, ‎February‎ ‎17‎, ‎2018‎ ‎03‎:‎53‎:‎41‎ ‎AM‎ ‎PST, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook

| I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. | From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook |

We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: | I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. | From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook | |

How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of spots to put out fenders. I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. Take Care From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net <mailto:cr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. _____ From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

Ah, Charlie, they would have to be clipons. no studs allowed on board! Reggie Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:03 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; he… [at] sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of spots to put out fenders. I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. Take Care From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net<mailto:cr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

Reggie,If you remember when Wilkie redid Mariposa he got rid of the rub rail also, said he liked how it looked that way. 'Course that was a 29, but it is a beautiful boat.David Dobbs On Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:39 PM, "r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Ah, Charlie, they would have to be clipons. no studs allowed on board!Reggie Sent from Outlook From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:03 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; he… [at] sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of spots to put out fenders. I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. Take Care From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Je… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: | I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. | From:"r go… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and BarbaraCal Cruising 36 "Submit"Sent from Outlook | |

Did you check your profile at http://tacomarine.com/category/OEM-Rub-Rail-Replacement/Rub-Rail-Selection-Guide *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ......….-_/) Timm Lessley On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:46 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Reggie, If you remember when Wilkie redid Mariposa he got rid of the rub rail also, said he liked how it looked that way. 'Course that was a 29, but it is a beautiful boat. David Dobbs On Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:39 PM, "r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Ah, Charlie, they would have to be clipons. no studs allowed on board! Reggie Sent from Outlook From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:03 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; he… [at] sbcglobal.net Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of spots to put out fenders. I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. Take Care From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook

Our marina has rub rails on the dock. I quit using fenders years ago. Seems like a getter place for them. On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:04 AM, Timm Lessley ti… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Did you check your profile at http://tacomarine.com/category/OEM-Rub-Rail- > Replacement/Rub-Rail-Selection-Guide > > > *´¨) > ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) > (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ......….-_/) > > Timm Lessley > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:46 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Reggie, > If you remember when Wilkie redid Mariposa he got rid of the rub rail > also, said he liked how it looked that way. 'Course that was a 29, but it > is a beautiful boat.. > David Dobbs > > > > On Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:39 PM, "r good my… [at] hotmail.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Ah, Charlie, they would have to be clipons. no studs allowed on board! > Reggie > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf > of 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:03 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; he… [at] sbcglobal.net > *Subject:* RE: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > > How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of > spots to put out fenders. > > I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some > degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. > > Take Care > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > > > We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. > Helen > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > > > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net [Cal_Boats] > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC > 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. > The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him > hang tires around the boat. > > My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on > mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I > needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a > welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path > would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would > have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In > that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a > driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not > as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. > ------------------------------ > *From*:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Date*:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 > *Subject*:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. > > Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough > shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on > each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a > stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately > not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be > dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with > stainless rubstrake added. > > do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a > new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the > hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? > > if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What > wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, > varnish, etc? and where is it available? > > I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, > suggestions of type and source? > > I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide > enough. > > all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. > > Reggie and Barbara > Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > > > > >

yup. none work Reggie Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Timm Lessley ti… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:04 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement Did you check your profile at http://tacomarine.com/category/OEM-Rub-Rail-Replacement/Rub-Rail-Selection-Guide *´¨) ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( ......….-_/) Timm Lessley On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:46 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:tm… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Reggie, If you remember when Wilkie redid Mariposa he got rid of the rub rail also, said he liked how it looked that way. 'Course that was a 29, but it is a beautiful boat.. David Dobbs On Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:39 PM, "r good my… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Ah, Charlie, they would have to be clipons. no studs allowed on board! Reggie Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:03 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; he… [at] sbcglobal.net<mailto:he… [at] sbcglobal.net> Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of spots to put out fenders. I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. Take Care From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net<mailto:cr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com<mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. Reggie and Barbara Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook>

Some old rub rails on Cals covered the hull-deck joint, like on my Cal 34. If yours doesn’t have that joint, I would not replace it. Mike Kennedy Conquest. > On Feb 18, 2018, at 11:25 AM, r good my… [at] hotmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > yup. none work > Reggie > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of Timm Lessley ti… [at] gmail.com <mailto:ti… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 11:04 AM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > > Did you check your profile at http://tacomarine.com/category/OEM-Rub-Rail-Replacement/Rub-Rail-Selection-Guide <http://tacomarine.com/category/OEM-Rub-Rail-Replacement/Rub-Rail-Selection-Guide> > > > *´¨) > ¸.· ´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·**¨) > (¸.·´ (¸.·' ( .......….-_/) > > Timm Lessley > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 17, 2018, at 2:46 PM, david dobbs tm… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:tm… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > > > > Reggie, > If you remember when Wilkie redid Mariposa he got rid of the rub rail also, said he liked how it looked that way. 'Course that was a 29, but it is a beautiful boat.. > David Dobbs > > > > On Saturday, February 17, 2018 4:39 PM, "r good my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > > > > Ah, Charlie, they would have to be clipons. no studs allowed on board! > Reggie > > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:03 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; he… [at] sbcglobal.net <mailto:he… [at] sbcglobal.net> > Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > > How about boat earrings, Reggie? That new toe rail gives you a lot of spots to put out fenders. > > I just got back (a few minutes ago) from Ft. Lauderdale at a sunny 80-some degrees and landed in Baltimore in a snow storm. Life’s like that. > > Take Care > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 12:30 PM > To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > > > We're with Mike, our 36 has no rubrails. The tumblehome defeats the logic. Helen > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> > > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Kris Jensen cr… [at] att.net <mailto:cr… [at] att.net> [Cal_Boats] > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: > > I'm pretty sure your rubrail is unique to your boat. I've seen a few CC 36's and looked at several sale ads online and none of them had rubrails. The DPO was probably an old tugboat captain whose wife wouldn't let him hang tires around the boat. > > My constant desire is to reduce maintenance. Every hour I spend on mandatory boat work is and hour out of my cruising time. If I felt I needed one, zero maintenance would be at the top of the list. If you're a welder, you could build them from aluminum or stainless. The other path would perhaps be more sacrificial. The fishing boats where I grew up would have easily replaced ones made from whatever local wood is cheapest.. In that case, Douglas Fir. They'd last for 5-10 years depending on how bad a driver you were and then remove the outer wearing portion and replace. Not as pretty as teak, but you can actually use them without much cringing. > From:"r good my… [at] hotmail.com <mailto:my… [at] hotmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> > Date:Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:53 > Subject:[Cal_Boats] rubrail replacement > > I'm surprised there were no opinions expressed about our rubrail issue. > > Our 50 year old rubrail is being removed because it is in really tough shape and to facilitate painting the hull topsides. It is 30 feet long on each side and placed just below the hull-deck joint. It is teak with a stainless rubstrake and protrudes out about 1 3/4" which is unfortunately not enough since there is some tumblehome to the hull. Therefore, to be dffective it should be wider. one possibility is a 2.5"x3.5" bullnose with stainless rubstrake added. > > do we leave it off and have no rubrail like many sailboats or install a new one? do we seal all the old holes and place a new one lower on the hull? do we replace the old one plus add a new one lower on the hull? > > if we replace it do we again use teak or some other natural wood? What wood could be used which takes the least maintenance, sealant, oil, varnish, etc? and where is it available? > > I'm also thinking about some variety of vinyl or plastic lumber. If so, suggestions of type and source? > > I have not been able to find a new rubber or plastic rubrail which is wide enough. > > all thoughts, suggestions and opinions would be appreciated. > > Reggie and Barbara > Cal Cruising 36 "Submit" > Sent from Outlook <http://aka.ms/weboutlook> > > > > > > > > >