Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 40 for sale

That CAL 40 was rebuilt by (well, paid for?) by Fred Cook, President of Schaefer Marine, who currently also owns a CAL 34. He used to be on one of our old CAL-List Forums (SailNet?), and sails on Buzzards Bay here in Massachusetts. He (last I knew) sailed out of Fairhaven, across the harbor from New Bedford. Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 previously co-owned "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 02:17:03 +0000 (UTC) "Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Mike, With all due respect, have you watched the Youtube video of the rebuilding of a Cal 40 in the Bay Area/Oakland? There are a series of episodes, this being episode one: Cal 40 Sailboat Restoration Episode 1, Who can resist a FREE Cal 40? Cal 40 Sailboat Restoration Episode 1, Who can resist a FREE Cal 40? This video is about Cal 40 Intro Snapshot May 24, 2015, 11:42:22 AM 1 On Monday, February 26, 2018 4:49 PM, "mt… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: The issue with Cal 40s has always been the beam, not the keel. The keels encapsulated and is not ideal in a grounding but I am aware of no problems with keels. Mike Kennedy Conquest. On Feb 26, 2018, at 1:45 PM, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 2/26/2018 3:12 PM, Gerald Sobel wrote: Regarding Cal Keels, I suggest everyone read the long article about the total rebuilding of a Cal 40 on Youtube. Part of it concerns reinforcing what they considered a weakened hull structure adjacent to the keel. Apparently, this is something that is endemic to all flat bottomed, narrow finned Cals, and perhaps the reason other marine architects were critical of the design when the Cal 40 was built and entered in the Trans-pac. Notable that nowadays, almost all 'racer-cruisers' are flat bottomed, and have narrow finned keels. And yes, our Cals are very old boats now, designed before anyone knew fershurr how long a plastic boat would last...as wooden boats prior to that required constant rebuilding to keep them ship-shape. It wasn't until recently that keels began falling off boats. Before that sailors generally had advance notice that something needed attention--gelcoat cracking, other evidence of failure. There were some cases where keel bolts deteriorated. But there weren't many reported cases of structural failure. The Practical Sailor article talked about the industry strength standards--ISO vs ABS. The former were mostly inadequate per the article; designed for trade purposes and not for engineering purposes. The article suggested that the ISO standards did not properly accommodate the forces involved in sailing in weather or in grounding events. The suggestion was that overbuilding in critical areas like the portions of the hull supporting the keel made very good sense to anybody who was going to actually sail the boat, racer or not, because minimum standards were just that. Of course, I agreed with the article because one of my basic notions about sailing is that it's an activity that honors self-reliance. We shouldn't be setting off in unsafe vessels or in vessels not equipped to deal with weather conditions just because we have little phones or radios that let us call for help. The whole idea is to be prepared with a sound vessel and ready to deal with things as they come. The article mentioned a chartered Beneteau that was found with keel missing, floating upside down, all the crew lost. If you've got an inadequately built or maintained vessel, and if you're either beyond the reach of rescuers or don't have a chance to call for help, you're either cold and miserable in a raft or you're dead. Chris Campbell Buckingham Confirms Unfortunate News risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5a94f1e86c27e71e8431fst02duc

I remember when the O'Day "Daysailer" came out. I saw it at the New York Boat Show. To me it was a real cruise ship with its spacious cuddy cabin. I later got to sail one in the Gulf of Mexico when our USN "Captain's Band" flew into Corpus Christi Naval Air Station to be part of a stage show that was part of the Blue Angels exhibition. Somehow it had transformed itself into a dinghy on steroids. Jerry of Shpritz

Jerry, The Day Sailer is a great "yacht" to me, I own the newer Day Sailer II version, not as open... with a lockable cuddy and "self-bailing" cockpit. I think the original, now called DS I (as well as the newest version, the DS IV) appear more roomy and comfortable, but I like the delusion of gander of that cuddy that can be closed up like a cabin. Still, I dream of a bigger "yacht" that would have REAL cabin and room for a head (age is catching up with me......... having a little jug for an MSD doesn't quite cut it anymore!). The Day Sailer is 17' (16'9"), but my "dream" yacht would be around 18-22'. The CAL 21 was great, but draws too much water for my mooring spot! Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II #10201 previous boat: "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 #285 On 28 Feb 2018 19:35:40 +0000 "so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I remember when the O'Day "Daysailer" came out. I saw it at the New York Boat Show. To me it was a real cruise ship with its spacious cuddy cabin. I later got to sail one in the Gulf of Mexico when our USN "Captain's Band" flew into Corpus Christi Naval Air Station to be part of a stage show that was part of the Blue Angels exhibition. Somehow it had transformed itself into a dinghy on steroids. Jerry of Shpritz After Weeks Of Rumors, Joanna Gaines Comes Clean risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5a97257c16b80257b6c4bst04duc

On 2/28/2018 4:55 PM, rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >  > > Jerry, > The Day Sailer is a great "yacht" to me, I own the newer Day Sailer II > version, not as open... with a lockable cuddy and "self-bailing" > cockpit. I think the original, now called DS I (as well as the newest > version, the DS IV) appear more roomy and comfortable, but I like the > delusion of gander of that cuddy that can be closed up like a cabin. > Still, I dream of a bigger "yacht" that would have REAL cabin and room > for a head (age is catching up with me......... having a little jug > for an MSD doesn't quite cut it anymore!). The Day Sailer is 17' > (16'9"), but my "dream" yacht would be around 18-22'. The CAL 21 was > great, but draws too much water for my mooring spot! The first boat I ever sailed a race in was an O'Day Mariner, the keel version, with a former high school teacher who was the skipper. It was where I learned how to make great split-pea soup. I can reveal the secret now because the teacher is dead, killed by a driver who had worked two shifts and fell asleep at the wheel. The secret: use honey. That teacher taught me valuable lessons about being a grownup, and about the value of eccentricity. He was a sailor and a bon vivant and had wide-ranging interests and curiosity. He gave me a sailing job and as a direct result I became a sailor and my life was forever improved. He died before I could thank him (before I fully appreciated what he had done). But last year I wrote a piece for the local marine historical society in which I did that, and his sister learned of it and was gratified. Chris Campbell >

flying scot john b On Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 4:19:43 PM CST, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 2/28/2018 4:55 PM, rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:  Jerry, The Day Sailer is a great "yacht" to me, I own the newer Day Sailer II version, not as open... with a lockable cuddy and "self-bailing" cockpit. I think the original, now called DS I (as well as the newest version, the DS IV) appear more roomy and comfortable, but I like the delusion of gander of that cuddy that can be closed up like a cabin. Still, I dream of a bigger "yacht" that would have REAL cabin and room for a head (age is catching up with me......... having a little jug for an MSD doesn't quite cut it anymore!). The Day Sailer is 17' (16'9"), but my "dream" yacht would be around 18-22'. The CAL 21 was great, but draws too much water for my mooring spot! The first boat I ever sailed a race in was an O'Day Mariner, the keel version, with a former high school teacher who was the skipper. It was where I learned how to make great split-pea soup. I can reveal the secret now because the teacher is dead, killed by a driver who had worked two shifts and fell asleep at the wheel. The secret: use honey. That teacher taught me valuable lessons about being a grownup, and about the value of eccentricity. He was a sailor and a bon vivant and had wide-ranging interests and curiosity. He gave me a sailing job and as a direct result I became a sailor and my life was forever improved. He died before I could thank him (before I fully appreciated what he had done). But last year I wrote a piece for the local marine historical society in which I did that, and his sister learned of it and was gratified. Chris Campbell

The Flying Scot was my first boat ever and I learned to sail on that boat. Hull 3441. Sloop John B. as my wife and I dubbed her. Sailed on Galveston Bay out of the Seabrook Sailing Club. When we bought our Cal 33 many of our friends with Flying Scots came to help us christen her. Moving from an 800 lb. open daysailer to an 11,000 lb. racer/cruiser with berths for 7 was the entire reason for the name “Quantum Evolution” — we skipped all of the middle steps! Don Dutton 1986 Cal 33-2, “Quantum Evolution” Hayden Island, Oregon On Feb 28, 2018, at 2:20 PM, Mail jh… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > flying scot > > john b > > > On Wednesday, February 28, 2018, 4:19:43 PM CST, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 2/28/2018 4:55 PM, rj… [at] juno.com <mailto:rj… [at] juno.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: >>  >> Jerry, >> The Day Sailer is a great "yacht" to me, I own the newer Day Sailer II version, not as open... with a lockable cuddy and "self-bailing" cockpit. I think the original, now called DS I (as well as the newest version, the DS IV) appear more roomy and comfortable, but I like the delusion of gander of that cuddy that can be closed up like a cabin. Still, I dream of a bigger "yacht" that would have REAL cabin and room for a head (age is catching up with me......... having a little jug for an MSD doesn't quite cut it anymore!). The Day Sailer is 17' (16'9"), but my "dream" yacht would be around 18-22'. The CAL 21 was great, but draws too much water for my mooring spot! > > The first boat I ever sailed a race in was an O'Day Mariner, the keel version, with a former high school teacher who was the skipper. It was where I learned how to make great split-pea soup. I can reveal the secret now because the teacher is dead, killed by a driver who had worked two shifts and fell asleep at the wheel. The secret: use honey. > > That teacher taught me valuable lessons about being a grownup, and about the value of eccentricity. He was a sailor and a bon vivant and had wide-ranging interests and curiosity. He gave me a sailing job and as a direct result I became a sailor and my life was forever improved. He died before I could thank him (before I fully appreciated what he had done). But last year I wrote a piece for the local marine historical society in which I did that, and his sister learned of it and was gratified. > > Chris Campbell >> >> > > >

Rod,Perhaps you can keep your eyes out for a classic Cal 24-1? I draw a bit over 30" without the centerboard hanging down. My idea was originally to get a "sea wall slip" which was then only $75/month. I got one, and I had been told the previous renter had scooped out some of the rocks to make it deeper. Sadly, on the first lunar low tide I found Shpritz sitting on the rocks, resting on BRANEWBOTTOMJOB!Arrghhh$#@!. Fortunately, there was a boat shew the weekend after I sailed my boat down from Channel Islands, and while chatting with the office manager of one of the marinas who had a booth, but that I hadn't rented from, I politely filled out a raffle card as an afterthought. Surprise surprise, I got a big envelope in the mail later that week for a free slip for a whole year! Wooohooo. And that's where I've been ever since, albeit that the county usurped the docks, and I'm now paying nearly 3X the orginal rent from the late 90's. I had originally planned on getting a MacGregor 25, but was told in no uncertain terms by one of the elderly skippers at a bi-monthly Sunday sailing club, that I should definitely keep my eyes out for a Cal 24-1 instead. And what do you know, one appeared on the local weekly advertiser rag (before we had Craigslist). And every few weeks the owner lowered the price, till it was down to $450. I went up to Oxnard to see it, was blown away by the generous size of the berths, and made it my present for my 50th birthday.Jerry of Shpritz On Wednesday, February 28, 2018 1:56 PM, "rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Jerry,The Day Sailer is a great "yacht" to me, I own the newer Day Sailer II version, not as open... with a lockable cuddy and "self-bailing" cockpit. I think the original, now called DS I (as well as the newest version, the DS IV) appear more roomy and comfortable, but I like the delusion of gander of that cuddy that can be closed up like a cabin. Still, I dream of a bigger "yacht" that would have REAL cabin and room for a head (age is catching up with me......... having a little jug for an MSD doesn't quite cut it anymore!). The Day Sailer is 17' (16'9"), but my "dream" yacht would be around 18-22'. The CAL 21 was great, but draws too much water for my mooring spot! Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD"1979 O'DAY DS II #10201previous boat: "NODROG"1970 CAL 21 #285 On 28 Feb 2018 19:35:40 +0000 "so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: I remember when the O'Day "Daysailer" came out. I saw it at the New York Boat Show. To me it was a real cruise ship with its spacious cuddy cabin. I later got to sail one in the Gulf of Mexico when our USN "Captain's Band" flew into Corpus Christi Naval Air Station to be part of a stage show that was part of the Blue Angels exhibition. Somehow it had transformed itself into a dinghy on steroids. Jerry of Shpritz After Weeks Of Rumors, Joanna Gaines Comes Clean risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5a97257c16b80257b6c4bst04duc