26 messages2005-11-15 10:44 UTCthrough 2018-09-17 00:55 UTC
Cal 39
Cor Lions2005-11-15 10:44 UTC
Hello,
We have a Cal 39, built in 39 and sailing from 1985.
The name of the ship is Lucia. The former name was Perfect Speed.
I'am looking for more information about the ship. Who were the first owners? Trips?
Cor van Leeuwen
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Cal 39
slavanaway2012-09-05 05:00
I own hull 154 and totally love the boat. I am looking at little tweeks... and could use some sage help.
I wondered if anyone knew the manufacturer of the mast/boom on a 1983 Call 39? Standard rig. The end cap needs to be replaced/rebuilt as one of the two tangs above the reefing blocks broke.
I would also like to find a better 'outhaul'. The previous owner went to loose footed and went with a low tech, high-friction outhaul. 10 inches of track and a car with bearing would make this better. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sam
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
Allen Edwards2012-09-05 05:35 UTC
I don't understand what you are saying " 10 inches of track and a car with
bearing would make this better "
But, mostly the new sails that are lose footed use a Velcro strap to hold
the sail down to the boom and an outhaul to pull it back. No car. If I
didn't have a wood boom that is what I would do.
I would recommend something like 20:1 on the outhaul either with a cascaded
block arrangement or a winch. Mine comes back to the cabin and is 4:1 x
5:1. The newer boats seem to have internal cascaded pulley arrangements
and then exiting the boom a few feet aft of the mast.
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 10:00 PM, slavanaway <sa… [at] lavanaway.org> wrote:
> **
>
>
> I own hull 154 and totally love the boat. I am looking at little tweeks...
> and could use some sage help.
>
> I wondered if anyone knew the manufacturer of the mast/boom on a 1983 Call
> 39? Standard rig. The end cap needs to be replaced/rebuilt as one of the
> two tangs above the reefing blocks broke.
>
> I would also like to find a better 'outhaul'. The previous owner went to
> loose footed and went with a low tech, high-friction outhaul. 10 inches of
> track and a car with bearing would make this better. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
Wayne Gillikin2012-09-05 16:06 UTC
I have hull 162 with what I believe is the original spar setup. My spars were made by Kenyon. A company called RigRite has acquired the rights to the Kenyon name. Personally, I would rather sink my boat than do business with RigRite. There are plenty of good companies out there that can make replacement spars.
My outhaul is an arrangement with a "car" like device that runs in the same track as the foot slugs. This device is connected to a cable which enters the boom at the aft end and is attached to a fiddle block. The purchase arrangement is inside the boom.
In the attached picture the arrangement is laying on the boom. The forward end of the boom is to the left. The single block is attached to a bolt which goes through the boom at the hole to the left of the block. The outhaul adjustment line exits the forward end of the boom over a sheave. There is a winch on the mast between the gooseneck and the deck which works for the reefing lines or the outhaul.
Anyway that's my setup. If you have questions or want more pictures drop me a note.
Regards,
Wayne
From: slavanaway <sa… [at] lavanaway.org>
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
I own hull 154 and totally love the boat. I am looking at little tweeks... and could use some sage help.
I wondered if anyone knew the manufacturer of the mast/boom on a 1983 Call 39? Standard rig. The end cap needs to be replaced/rebuilt as one of the two tangs above the reefing blocks broke.
I would also like to find a better 'outhaul'. The previous owner went to loose footed and went with a low tech, high-friction outhaul. 10 inches of track and a car with bearing would make this better. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sam
Cal 39
Edward Stancil2016-10-01 01:27 UTC
This my friend Nick
I'm helping him bring
SIROCCO back to
California from Texas...
Edward Stancil
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
Greg Beron2016-10-01 02:29 UTC
It looks like you're having a good time!
Greg Beron
Cal 29 Happy Hour
Marina del Rey
> On Sep 30, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> This my friend Nick
> I'm helping him bring
> SIROCCO back to
> California from Texas...
> Edward Stancil
>
>
> <20160930_084559.jpg>
cal 39
Patricia Dahlgren2017-12-05 17:15 UTC
Just joining up.
Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 39
Edward Stancil2017-12-05 17:19 UTC
Welcome...to Cal boats !!
Edward and Helen..Cal 36 ,2-27.
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Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 39
Greg vanDalen2017-12-05 17:44 UTC
Welcome to the list. 1979 Cal 39 here in the SF Bay.
Greg
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Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 39
R. F.2017-12-05 18:16 UTC
Welcome!
"Kathleen" Cal 39 - In the Sea of Cortes
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Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 39
Duane Knize Boat2017-12-06 01:23 UTC
Ditto Greg
Duane
Duane Knize
S/V Marlyn
1978 Cal 2-39 #18
berthed: Emeryville, CA
kn… [at] san.rr.com
On 12/5/2017 9:44 AM, Greg vanDalen no… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
> Welcome to the list. 1979 Cal 39 here in the SF Bay.
>
> Greg
>
> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017, 9:16:00 AM PST, Patricia Dahlgren
> rp… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Re: [Cal_Boats] cal 39
fs… [at] torchlake.com2017-12-07 16:19 UTC
Welcome to a wonderfully informative list!
Nice to see another lady sailor on board.
Faith
S/V Sea Jewel
Cal 2 34
Squalicum Harbor, WA
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Cal 39
Edward Stancil2018-09-10 22:37 UTC
Got abstract from Coast Gard
Boat was built in Costa Mesa 1979
Chartered service "west indies yacht
Charters,inc."
Boat name appears to be
DISCOVEREY ...
and has home ports of
Rochester NY
Cleaveland Ohio
Boston Ma
Canada registery
Then fla...name change to
Northern Light .home port Homer Ak
Home port now San Francisco Bay...
So if anyone know s. Anything
Or any history of this Cal 39 mark ll
Thanks Edward..Cal 39 DISCOVEREY
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
Robert Andrew2018-09-11 16:26 UTC
My Cal 39 Nereid (home port now Norwalk CT), also started at West Indies
Yachts. I do remember another Cal in that fleet with the name Discovery,
so I expect that yours has the sam*e* tricabin, dual head, short rig layout
as mine. Looks like she has traveled around quite a bit in the ensuing
years. Do you have any idea how it got back to the west coast?
Bob Andrew
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com
[Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Got abstract from Coast Gard
> Boat was built in Costa Mesa 1979
> Chartered service "west indies yacht
> Charters,inc."
> Boat name appears to be
> DISCOVEREY ...
> and has home ports of
> Rochester NY
> Cleaveland Ohio
> Boston Ma
> Canada registery
> Then fla...name change to
> Northern Light .home port Homer Ak
> Home port now San Francisco Bay...
>
> So if anyone know s. Anything
> Or any history of this Cal 39 mark ll
> Thanks Edward..Cal 39 DISCOVEREY
>
>
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
Helen Horn2018-09-11 22:23 UTC
Bob ...thanks for the update Our friend bought it in st.Pierce Fla.
He sailed Bahamas virgin and took it To Texas and trucked to SFBAY..MOSTLY bay sailed since then
We are thinking of change name Back to "DISCOVERY" BUT HELEN likes "DISCO"
I REALLY LIKE "Frisco DISCO
Then I don't have to put SFBay..Or SANTA CRUZ ON BACK..
ALWAYS wanted A "SisterShip" is your boat still original Name ?
Edward and helen
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Robert Andrew rh… [at] cornell.edu [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
My Cal 39 Nereid (home port now Norwalk CT), also started at West Indies Yachts. I do remember another Cal in that fleet with the name Discovery, so I expect that yours has the same tricabin, dual head, short rig layout as mine. Looks like she has traveled around quite a bit in the ensuing years. Do you have any idea how it got back to the west coast?
Bob Andrew
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Got abstract from Coast Gard Boat was built in Costa Mesa 1979Chartered service "west indies yacht Charters,inc.." Boat name appears to beDISCOVEREY ... and has home ports of Rochester NY Cleaveland OhioBoston MaCanada registeryThen fla...name change toNorthern Light .home port Homer AkHome port now San Francisco Bay...
So if anyone know s. AnythingOr any history of this Cal 39 mark llThanks Edward..Cal 39 DISCOVEREY
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39
Robert Andrew2018-09-12 13:53 UTC
Yes, the boat has always been Nereid. One name and one owner. It was
October of 1978 that I bought the boat with a friend (bought his interest
out a few years later when he moved to AZ), so it's been 40 years now, hard
to believe. Have sailed in LI Sound since 1983. Still love the boat.
I'd be curious if you know the cost of trucking the boat from the TX to CA.
I'm pretty sure all the Cal's in the West Indies Yacht fleet were trucked
from CA to FL first.
Bob
On Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 5:48 AM Helen Horn he… [at] sbcglobal.net
[Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>
> Bob ...thanks for the update
> Our friend bought it in st.Pierce Fla.
>
> He sailed Bahamas virgin and took it
> To Texas and trucked to SFBAY..
> MOSTLY bay sailed since then
>
> We are thinking of change name
> Back to "DISCOVERY"
> BUT HELEN likes "DISCO"
>
> I REALLY LIKE
> "Frisco DISCO
>
> Then I don't have to put SFBay..
> Or SANTA CRUZ ON BACK..
>
> ALWAYS wanted A
> "SisterShip" is your boat still original
> Name ?
>
> Edward and helen
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Robert Andrew rh… [at] cornell.edu
> [Cal_Boats]
> <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> My Cal 39 Nereid (home port now Norwalk CT), also started at West Indies
> Yachts. I do remember another Cal in that fleet with the name Discovery,
> so I expect that yours has the sam*e* tricabin, dual head, short rig
> layout as mine. Looks like she has traveled around quite a bit in the
> ensuing years. Do you have any idea how it got back to the west coast?
>
> Bob Andrew
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com
> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Got abstract from Coast Gard
> Boat was built in Costa Mesa 1979
> Chartered service "west indies yacht
> Charters,inc.."
> Boat name appears to be
> DISCOVEREY ...
> and has home ports of
> Rochester NY
> Cleaveland Ohio
> Boston Ma
> Canada registery
> Then fla...name change to
> Northern Light .home port Homer Ak
> Home port now San Francisco Bay...
>
> So if anyone know s. Anything
> Or any history of this Cal 39 mark ll
> Thanks Edward..Cal 39 DISCOVEREY
>
>
>
>
>
>
Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Sean Dimond2018-09-14 04:33 UTC
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
[cid:C7… [at] hsd1.wa.comcast.net]
Sean
S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Duane Knize Boat2018-09-14 05:40 UTC
Don't know off hand; I just went up to replace my spreader light with one.
Low risk approach is to take one out and to West Marine (or equiv) for
size comparison.
With the corrosion, you might consider replacing the entire lamp with a
LED version.
Regards,
Duane
Duane Knize
S/V Marlyn
1978 Cal 2-39 #18
berthed: Emeryville, CA
kn… [at] san.rr.com
On 9/13/2018 9:33 PM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be [Cal_Boats] wrote:
>
> Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978
> Cal 39 Mark II?
>
>
> Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an
> older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
>
> Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the
> bosun chair.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Sean
> S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
ccampbell2018-09-14 15:52 UTC
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but
the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean
those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts
good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was
surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West
Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive
anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be [Cal_Boats] wrote:
>
>
> Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978
> Cal 39 Mark II?
>
> Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an
> older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
>
> Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the
> bosun chair.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Sean
> S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Sean Dimond2018-09-14 15:56 UTC
For sure... going LEDs. Just not sure if the anchor masthead bulb is the same...
S
On Sep 14, 2018, at 08:53, ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org>> wrote:
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be<mailto:se… [at] untamed.be> [Cal_Boats] wrote:
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
<festoon.png>
Sean
S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
Harold Beer2018-09-15 13:42 UTC
I look at the photo and see all of the damage around the edges and the corrosion, and wonder if the lens is crazed and foggy.It's clear the fixture has retained water for some time - algae in the lower left cornerIt's not an expensive lamp fixture, and is an easy drop-in replacement. I replaced the steaming lamp on my Cal 2-27 this Spring because the lens was in bad shape. By buying the whole fixture, I got a new lens, new bulb, and new contacts. A short piece of dental floss tied onto the wiring before you remove the fixture would be a good idea to avoid losing the wire into the mast (this did happen to me)
As for LED's in the steaming light, your motor is running and it will always be running when you use the steaming light. LED's in the nav. lights, certainly, but steaming light?
You are going past the steaming light every year when you inspect the rig, and I think I've replaced the lamp once in twenty years (not including replacing the fixture)
Harold
On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 12:11:50 AM EDT, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from ccampbell included below]
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be [Cal_Boats] wrote:
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
Sean S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
John Boyce2018-09-15 16:17 UTC
Looking at your fixture I noticed that it is similar to mine where the bulbs have a dent in the end of them allowing the socket to go into them and hold the bulbs in place The last time I changed my bayonet bulb I was unable to find that type of bulbs, it seems that the socket now accepts a bulb that has pimples on the end rather than dimples I solved the problem by drilling 1/16 inch holes in the old socket to accept the new design.
John Boyce
Cal227 #650
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:42 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s) from Harold Beer included below]
I look at the photo and see all of the damage around the edges and the corrosion, and wonder if the lens is crazed and foggy.
It's clear the fixture has retained water for some time - algae in the lower left corner
It's not an expensive lamp fixture, and is an easy drop-in replacement. I replaced the steaming lamp on my Cal 2-27 this Spring because the lens was in bad shape. By buying the whole fixture, I got a new lens, new bulb, and new contacts. A short piece of dental floss tied onto the wiring before you remove the fixture would be a good idea to avoid losing the wire into the mast (this did happen to me)
As for LED's in the steaming light, your motor is running and it will always be running when you use the steaming light. LED's in the nav. lights, certainly, but steaming light?
You are going past the steaming light every year when you inspect the rig, and I think I've replaced the lamp once in twenty years (not including replacing the fixture)
Harold
On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 12:11:50 AM EDT, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
[Attachment(s) from ccampbell included below]
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be [Cal_Boats] wrote:
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
Sean
S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
Sean Dimond2018-09-16 00:37 UTC
Yeah, both fixtures both need replacing for sure. Up next on my list. Just needed working lights for now, for insurance sake.
Appreciate the response… will use the dental floss trick!
- S
On Sep 15, 2018, at 6:42 AM, Harold Beer ha… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:ha… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
[Attachment(s)<x-msg://8/#TopText> from Harold Beer included below]
I look at the photo and see all of the damage around the edges and the corrosion, and wonder if the lens is crazed and foggy.
It's clear the fixture has retained water for some time - algae in the lower left corner
It's not an expensive lamp fixture, and is an easy drop-in replacement. I replaced the steaming lamp on my Cal 2-27 this Spring because the lens was in bad shape. By buying the whole fixture, I got a new lens, new bulb, and new contacts. A short piece of dental floss tied onto the wiring before you remove the fixture would be a good idea to avoid losing the wire into the mast (this did happen to me)
As for LED's in the steaming light, your motor is running and it will always be running when you use the steaming light. LED's in the nav. lights, certainly, but steaming light?
You are going past the steaming light every year when you inspect the rig, and I think I've replaced the lamp once in twenty years (not including replacing the fixture)
Harold
On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 12:11:50 AM EDT, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
[Attachment(s)<x-msg://8/#TopText> from ccampbell included below]
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be<mailto:se… [at] untamed.be> [Cal_Boats] wrote:
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
[cid:xwqXVcDoA2YWpK9KpNnX]
Sean
S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Sean Dimond2018-09-16 00:39 UTC
Turns out BOTH the steaming and anchor lights took the same AQUA SIGNAL Special Festoon Bulb, 12V/10W.
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On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:17 AM, 'John Boyce' je… [at] gmail.com<mailto:je… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
Looking at your fixture I noticed that it is similar to mine where the bulbs have a dent in the end of them allowing the socket to go into them and hold the bulbs in place The last time I changed my bayonet bulb I was unable to find that type of bulbs, it seems that the socket now accepts a bulb that has pimples on the end rather than dimples I solved the problem by drilling 1/16 inch holes in the old socket to accept the new design.
John Boyce
Cal227 #650
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
[Attachment(s)<x-msg://9/#TopText> from Harold Beer included below]
I look at the photo and see all of the damage around the edges and the corrosion, and wonder if the lens is crazed and foggy.
It's clear the fixture has retained water for some time - algae in the lower left corner
It's not an expensive lamp fixture, and is an easy drop-in replacement. I replaced the steaming lamp on my Cal 2-27 this Spring because the lens was in bad shape. By buying the whole fixture, I got a new lens, new bulb, and new contacts. A short piece of dental floss tied onto the wiring before you remove the fixture would be a good idea to avoid losing the wire into the mast (this did happen to me)
As for LED's in the steaming light, your motor is running and it will always be running when you use the steaming light. LED's in the nav. lights, certainly, but steaming light?
You are going past the steaming light every year when you inspect the rig, and I think I've replaced the lamp once in twenty years (not including replacing the fixture)
Harold
On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 12:11:50 AM EDT, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
[Attachment(s)<x-msg://9/#TopText> from ccampbell included below]
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be<mailto:se… [at] untamed.be>[Cal_Boats] wrote:
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
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Sean
S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Michael Casillo2018-09-16 11:25 UTC
Is that LED?
> On Sep 15, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Turns out BOTH the steaming and anchor lights took the same AQUA SIGNAL Special Festoon Bulb, 12V/10W.
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>> On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:17 AM, 'John Boyce' je… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> Looking at your fixture I noticed that it is similar to mine where the bulbs have a dent in the end of them allowing the socket to go into them and hold the bulbs in place The last time I changed my bayonet bulb I was unable to find that type of bulbs, it seems that the socket now accepts a bulb that has pimples on the end rather than dimples I solved the problem by drilling 1/16 inch holes in the old socket to accept the new design.
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>> John Boyce
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>> Cal227 #650
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>> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com[mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:42 AM
>> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
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>> [Attachment(s) from Harold Beer included below]
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>> I look at the photo and see all of the damage around the edges and the corrosion, and wonder if the lens is crazed and foggy.
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>> It's clear the fixture has retained water for some time - algae in the lower left corner
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>> It's not an expensive lamp fixture, and is an easy drop-in replacement. I replaced the steaming lamp on my Cal 2-27 this Spring because the lens was in bad shape. By buying the whole fixture, I got a new lens, new bulb, and new contacts. A short piece of dental floss tied onto the wiring before you remove the fixture would be a good idea to avoid losing the wire into the mast (this did happen to me)
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>> As for LED's in the steaming light, your motor is running and it will always be running when you use the steaming light. LED's in the nav. lights, certainly, but steaming light?
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>> You are going past the steaming light every year when you inspect the rig, and I think I've replaced the lamp once in twenty years (not including replacing the fixture)
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>> Harold
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>> On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 12:11:50 AM EDT, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> [Attachment(s) from ccampbell included below]
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>> Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
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>> Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
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>> Chris Campbell
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>>> On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be[Cal_Boats] wrote:
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>>> Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
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>>> Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
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>>> Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
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>>> Thanks in advance!
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>>> Sean
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>>> S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA
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RE: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Charlie Husar2018-09-17 00:55 UTC
Hi, Mike. That looked like an incandescent and was 10 watts. An equivalent LED would be under 2 watts.
Cheers
Charlie
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs?
Is that LED?
On Sep 15, 2018, at 8:39 PM, Sean Dimond se… [at] untamed.be <mailto:se… [at] untamed.be> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote:
Turns out BOTH the steaming and anchor lights took the same AQUA SIGNAL Special Festoon Bulb, 12V/10W.
<10-aiolos-steaminglight-after.jpg><11-aiolos-anchorlight.jpg><IMG_3186.jpg>
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On Sep 15, 2018, at 9:17 AM, 'John Boyce' je… [at] gmail.com <mailto:je… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote:
Looking at your fixture I noticed that it is similar to mine where the bulbs have a dent in the end of them allowing the socket to go into them and hold the bulbs in place The last time I changed my bayonet bulb I was unable to find that type of bulbs, it seems that the socket now accepts a bulb that has pimples on the end rather than dimples I solved the problem by drilling 1/16 inch holes in the old socket to accept the new design.
John Boyce
Cal227 #650
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Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Cal 39 Mark II anchor/steaming bulbs? [1 Attachment]
[ <x-msg://9/#TopText> Attachment(s) from Harold Beer included below]
I look at the photo and see all of the damage around the edges and the corrosion, and wonder if the lens is crazed and foggy.
It's clear the fixture has retained water for some time - algae in the lower left corner
It's not an expensive lamp fixture, and is an easy drop-in replacement. I replaced the steaming lamp on my Cal 2-27 this Spring because the lens was in bad shape. By buying the whole fixture, I got a new lens, new bulb, and new contacts. A short piece of dental floss tied onto the wiring before you remove the fixture would be a good idea to avoid losing the wire into the mast (this did happen to me)
As for LED's in the steaming light, your motor is running and it will always be running when you use the steaming light. LED's in the nav. lights, certainly, but steaming light?
You are going past the steaming light every year when you inspect the rig, and I think I've replaced the lamp once in twenty years (not including replacing the fixture)
Harold
On Saturday, September 15, 2018, 12:11:50 AM EDT, ccampbell <mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org> cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] < <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
[ <x-msg://9/#TopText> Attachment(s) from ccampbell included below]
Just looking at the photo, it appears that the filament is intact but the terminals on the bulb are corroded. You may just need to clean those up and apply some sort of anticorrosion goop to keep the contacts good. But if you're replacing the bulb, why not go with LEDs? I was surprised to see a wide assortment of drop-in LED replacements at West Marine a few weeks ago.
Practical Sailor has had some recommendations for conductive anticorrosion grease, as I recall.
Chris Campbell
On 9/14/2018 12:33 AM, Sean Dimond <mailto:se… [at] untamed.be> se… [at] untamed.be[Cal_Boats] wrote:
Curious if anyone knows the exact replacement anchor bulb for a 1978 Cal 39 Mark II?
Attached is a picture of the steaming light 3/4 up the mast… its an older 12v Festoon bulb. But is the anchor light the same?
Long story, but the answer will save me two trips up the mast in the bosun chair.
Thanks in advance!
Sean
S/V AIOLOS Seattle, WA