Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

6 messages2019-04-28 15:00 UTCthrough 2019-04-29 15:33 UTC

Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

pw… [at] aol.com2019-04-28 15:00 UTC
A few years ago I had a leaky chainplate so I pulled it out, taped over the holes in the bulkhead, filled the void with epoxy to let is soak into the wood, slid the chainplate back in, let it dry and re-drilled the holes that were now full of epoxy . . . . at least that's what I did to the best of my failing memory as it's been 4 or 5 yrs now. I then re-bolted the outter chainplate pieces and everything has bee great since. So, my question is (since I think I learned the above trick on this page . . . but again memory is lacking) what did I, or should I have covered the chainplate with to keep the epoxy from sticking to it? Are there any other tips/tricks I have forgotten? Thanks in advance!! Paul WestAdventure Kwest'80 Cal 39 MKIII

RE: [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

Charlie Husar2019-04-28 17:50 UTC
Hi, Paul. What I’ve done is to epoxy the slot, and then drill/saw the slot back in so that the chainplate easily slides in and out. Then when mounting, I pack the space between plate and slot with butyl rubber stuff (flexes nicely). The boat flexes a fair amount at the chainplate which could cause an epoxied joint to crack. Take Care Charlie Annapolis Cal 25 and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:01 AM To: ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy A few years ago I had a leaky chainplate so I pulled it out, taped over the holes in the bulkhead, filled the void with epoxy to let is soak into the wood, slid the chainplate back in, let it dry and re-drilled the holes that were now full of epoxy . . . . at least that's what I did to the best of my failing memory as it's been 4 or 5 yrs now. I then re-bolted the outter chainplate pieces and everything has bee great since. So, my question is (since I think I learned the above trick on this page . . . but again memory is lacking) what did I, or should I have covered the chainplate with to keep the epoxy from sticking to it? Are there any other tips/tricks I have forgotten? Thanks in advance!! Paul West Adventure Kwest '80 Cal 39 MKIII

Re: [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

Kieran Dooley2019-04-28 18:03 UTC
I use any scrap plastic sheet it lifts right off of dried epoxy > On Apr 28, 2019, at 11:00 AM, pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > A few years ago I had a leaky chainplate so I pulled it out, taped over the holes in the bulkhead, filled the void with epoxy to let is soak into the wood, slid the chainplate back in, let it dry and re-drilled the holes that were now full of epoxy . . . . at least that's what I did to the best of my failing memory as it's been 4 or 5 yrs now. I then re-bolted the outter chainplate pieces and everything has bee great since. > > > So, my question is (since I think I learned the above trick on this page . . . but again memory is lacking) what did I, or should I have covered the chainplate with to keep the epoxy from sticking to it? Are there any other tips/tricks I have forgotten? > > Thanks in advance!! > > Paul West > Adventure Kwest > '80 Cal 39 MKIII > > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

Edward Stancil2019-04-28 19:54 UTC
Ut oooo..Cal 40 ? Ed and helen On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 11:48 AM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi, Paul. What I’ve done is to epoxy the slot, and then drill/saw the > slot back in so that the chainplate easily slides in and out. Then when > mounting, I pack the space between plate and slot with butyl rubber stuff > (flexes nicely). The boat flexes a fair amount at the chainplate which > could cause an epoxied joint to crack. > > > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > Cal 25 and Cal 40 > > > > > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:01 AM > *To:* ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy > > > > > > A few years ago I had a leaky chainplate so I pulled it out, taped over > the holes in the bulkhead, filled the void with epoxy to let is soak into > the wood, slid the chainplate back in, let it dry and re-drilled the holes > that were now full of epoxy . . . . at least that's what I did to the best > of my failing memory as it's been 4 or 5 yrs now. I then re-bolted the > outter chainplate pieces and everything has bee great since. > > > > So, my question is (since I think I learned the above trick on this page > . . . but again memory is lacking) what did I, or should I have covered > the chainplate with to keep the epoxy from sticking to it? Are there any > other tips/tricks I have forgotten? > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > Paul West > > Adventure Kwest > > '80 Cal 39 MKIII > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

Allen Edwards2019-04-29 01:19 UTC
To keep something from sticking to epoxy the classic choice is wax paper. If metal is stuck to epoxy and you want to remove it, heat the metal and it will release the epoxy. Best to all, Allen L-36 #5 Papoose L-36.com On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 1:04 PM Edward Stancil e.… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Ut oooo..Cal 40 ? > Ed and helen > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2019, 11:48 AM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, Paul. What I’ve done is to epoxy the slot, and then drill/saw the >> slot back in so that the chainplate easily slides in and out. Then when >> mounting, I pack the space between plate and slot with butyl rubber stuff >> (flexes nicely). The boat flexes a fair amount at the chainplate which >> could cause an epoxied joint to crack. >> >> >> >> Take Care >> >> Charlie >> >> Annapolis >> >> Cal 25 and Cal 40 >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 28, 2019 11:01 AM >> *To:* ca… [at] yahoogroups.com >> *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy >> >> >> >> >> >> A few years ago I had a leaky chainplate so I pulled it out, taped over >> the holes in the bulkhead, filled the void with epoxy to let is soak into >> the wood, slid the chainplate back in, let it dry and re-drilled the holes >> that were now full of epoxy . . . . at least that's what I did to the best >> of my failing memory as it's been 4 or 5 yrs now. I then re-bolted the >> outter chainplate pieces and everything has bee great since. >> >> >> >> So, my question is (since I think I learned the above trick on this page >> . . . but again memory is lacking) what did I, or should I have covered >> the chainplate with to keep the epoxy from sticking to it? Are there any >> other tips/tricks I have forgotten? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance!! >> >> >> >> Paul West >> >> Adventure Kwest >> >> '80 Cal 39 MKIII >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

Re: [Cal_Boats] Chainplates, bulkheads & epoxy

ccampbell2019-04-29 15:33 UTC
On 4/28/2019 11:00 AM, pw… [at] aol.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > > So, my question is (since I think I learned the above trick on this > page . . . but again memory is lacking) what did I, or should I have > covered the chainplate with to keep the epoxy from sticking to it? > Are there any other tips/tricks I have forgotten? The others have answered this effectively, but I'll add that the Gougeon Brothers (WEST System epoxies) have a lot of online information (and publications) about using epoxies in boatbuilding/repairing applications. They are a great resource. That's how I've learned to use epoxies. The big sailors and builders, Meade and Jan Gougeon, have both died now, but their company was first a boatbuilding operation (lightweight multihulls & iceboats) that morphed into an epoxy company as they developed the product in boatbuilding use. They're still very home-user friendly. And they've always been devoted to R&D: lighter-stronger-better. It's an admirable organization. Their company is located in the community where my other boat lives. Just as an aside, Meade Gougeon died just after the start of a multihull race that had its course laid out to start in front of his waterfront home on Saginaw Bay. His last words were "Tell the boys they can commence the race." And I remember one day when I was sailing my iceboat all alone out on Saginaw Bay. I was on a fast reach, way offshore, and decided it was time to come about before I reached the North Pole. Nobody else was out so I just came about without looking. But oops, one of the Gougeons (not sure which brother) had come up behind me in his light, fast, well-set-up DN while I was plodding along in my old, heavy, Weldwood Plastic Resin Glue-era, nylon-sail DN. Good lesson in always looking first. He avoided collision but I felt foolish. Chris Campbell