Cal 28-2

Hello All, I am looking to buy a Cal 28-2 (1985-1990 Vintage). I am looking for info on the boat. Are there any known issues that are problems. If anyone is willing to talk to me, send an email with you phone number off line and I will call you. I owned a Catalina 30 until I sold it last year. I sold it because it was physically demanding. I'm 70 years old and am looking at the Cal28-2 being easier to sail. Bert bj… [at] gmail.com

A friend of mine is planning to put a folding prop on his boat. He needs to know the gear ratio but can't get to the boat. He has the standard Westerbeke 13.5 hp engine. If anyone knows what the gear ration is it would be appreciated. John B. CAL 227 #650

I am looking at the original owners manual for my 1988 28-2 which interestingly enough states that the engine is a Westerbeke (which is inaccurate) but the ratio is not stated. I don't know if this is at all beneficial but the gear ratio for my yanmar 2gm20f (original) is hand written inside of the manual as being 2.62 and the prop is a "sailer 1186, 2 blade, 13RH10 on a 1 inch shaft. good luck! Mike Hofstetter 1988 28-2 "Sails Call" Baltimore, MD

He probably has Hurth HBW50 with a 2:1 ratio. That was standard with the model W13 engine. All bets are off if he has a different engine. Joe D On 2/14/2010 4:57 PM, John Boyce wrote: > > > A friend of mine is planning to put a folding prop on his boat. He > needs to know the gear ratio but can't get to the boat. He has the > standard Westerbeke 13.5 hp engine. If anyone knows what the gear > ration is it would be appreciated. > John B. > CAL 227 #650 > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2685 - Release Date: 02/13/10 03:43:00 > > -- *Joe DeMers - owner* Sound Marine Diesel LLC SoundMarineDiesel.com <http://www.soundmarinediesel.com/> *phone & fax (860) 666-2184*

I have the manual for the engine and there were 5 transmission options. From the pictures shown, I can compare it to ours and narrow it down to 2 of these. It's either the HBW-50 (which another member posted) or the BW-3. Either way, it's either 2:1 or 2.5:1 Wish I saw this sooner as I was at the boat yesterday and could have confirmed. Attached is the transmission page from the manual From: John Boyce <je… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 4:57:02 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 A friend of mine is planning to put a folding prop on his boat. He needs to know the gear ratio but can't get to the boat. He has the standard Westerbeke 13.5 hp engine. If anyone knows what the gear ration is it would be appreciated. John B. CAL 227 #650

Very jealous of the '88 Cal 28-2 engine, wish we could have found an '88 for sale when we bought ours. 7 more HP could make all the difference. Funny that they didn't update your manual. From: Michael Hofstetter <mk… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:55:32 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I am looking at the original owners manual for my 1988 28-2 which interestingly enough states that the engine is a Westerbeke (which is inaccurate) but the ratio is not stated. I don't know if this is at all beneficial but the gear ratio for my yanmar 2gm20f (original) is hand written inside of the manual as being 2.62 and the prop is a "sailer 1186, 2 blade, 13RH10 on a 1 inch shaft. good luck! Mike Hofstetter 1988 28-2 "Sails Call" Baltimore, MD

Like our '87 Cal 33, these boats were designed by Ray Hunt associates (gasp!) and not "real" cal (lapworth) boats. (just kidding, guys) the truth is they too are 23 plus years old and still around to be considered "good old boats". And this is a great list! The knowledge base of this group is amazing. So if you have a question, ask away! We will gladly steer you to the "best" answer available in the cyberworld. Ymmv John From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Boyce Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:51 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyce To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last summer. So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any serious bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I would imagine that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as the later Cals were exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I am not sure exactly how many hulls were produced. I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes in the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a VERY VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against comparable sized boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races in the fall. As of now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF rating. Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, I religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and every one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded beam thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be helpful to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do some day. The people that make up the list really have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, Mike Hofstetter '88 28-2 Sails Call Baltimore, MD

hope to see you and yoru 28-2 when we return to Baltimore for our boat. Reggie To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com From: mk… [at] yahoo.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:06:20 -0700 Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last summer. So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any serious bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I would imagine that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as the later Cals were exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I am not sure exactly how many hulls were produced. I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes in the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a VERY VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against comparable sized boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races in the fall. As of now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF rating. Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, I religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and every one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded beam thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be helpful to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do some day. The people that make up the list really have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, Mike Hofstetter '88 28-2 Sails Call Baltimore, MD

I have a 28-2 and sail out of Kent Island Md. There do not seem to be many around although I believe they were briefly sold by Lippencott Marine in the 80's. Wonder if there are any others in the Bay. Greg From: Michael Hofstetter <mk… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 7:06:20 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last summer. So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any serious bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I would imagine that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as the later Cals were exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I am not sure exactly how many hulls were produced. I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes in the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a VERY VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against comparable sized boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races in the fall. As of now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF rating. Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, I religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and every one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded beam thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be helpful to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do some day. The people that make up the list really have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, Mike Hofstetter '88 28-2 Sails Call Baltimore, MD

Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located Bert? Greg From: Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak >From: John Boyce >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my >227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. >I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race >it.

Mike, the following from US Sailing can be useful for guessing possible ratings. In the Chesapeake, most older hulls are at the high end of the numbers. For example, CAL 25s are now at 231, although very few of us race PHRF. http://offshore.ussailing.org/Assets/Offshore/PHRF/High+Low+Mean+PHRF+Handicaps.pdf Might need a copy-paste to look at this, but is is also on the US Sailing PHRF web site. Cheers Charlie From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Reinhard Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:25 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 28-2 and sail out of Kent Island Md. There do not seem to be many around although I believe they were briefly sold by Lippencott Marine in the 80's. Wonder if there are any others in the Bay. Greg From: Michael Hofstetter <mk… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 7:06:20 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last summer. So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any serious bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I would imagine that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as the later Cals were exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I am not sure exactly how many hulls were produced. I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes in the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a VERY VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against comparable sized boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races in the fall. As of now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF rating. Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, I religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and every one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded beam thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be helpful to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do some day. The people that make up the list really have a wealth of knowledge. Thanks, Mike Hofstetter '88 28-2 Sails Call Baltimore, MD

There are lots of errors in this listing. You may note that some of the information is in miles, some in nautical miles. In other words, it is useless. I have talked to them and they point out that these numbers should never be used and it says as much in the header. They are almost never updated with the exception of the header that says they are updated several times a year. They just change the header date as far as I can tell. My boat, a Lapworth-36, shows a rating of 126. Actual ratings of L-36s around the country run from 150 to 218. While there are lots of people in our local beer can race group that would like to see me have a rating of 126, I don't think any L-36 every had that rating. They told me it would be corrected on the next update. That was a year ago. Just so you know. Allen On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <hu… [at] bah.com>wrote: > > > Mike, the following from US Sailing can be useful for guessing possible > ratings. In the Chesapeake, most older hulls are at the high end of the > numbers. For example, CAL 25s are now at 231, although very few of us race > PHRF. > > > http://offshore.ussailing.org/Assets/Offshore/PHRF/High+Low+Mean+PHRF+Handicaps.pdf > > Might need a copy-paste to look at this, but is is also on the US Sailing > PHRF web site. > > Cheers > Charlie > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Greg Reinhard > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:25 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > I have a 28-2 and sail out of Kent Island Md. There do not seem to be > many around although I believe they were briefly sold by Lippencott Marine > in the 80's. Wonder if there are any others in the Bay. > > Greg > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Michael Hofstetter <mk… [at] yahoo.com> > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Tue, July 6, 2010 7:06:20 PM > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > > > I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last > summer. > > So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any > serious bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I > would imagine that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as > the later Cals were exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I > am not sure exactly how many hulls were produced. > > I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes > in the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a > VERY VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against > comparable sized boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races > in the fall. As of now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF > rating. > > Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, > I religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and > every one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded > beam thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be > helpful to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do > some day. The people that make up the list really have a wealth of > knowledge. > > Thanks, > > Mike Hofstetter > '88 28-2 Sails Call > Baltimore, MD > > > >

Thanks for the followup and info on PHRF guys. After looking at the numbers, and reading Allen's followup post, it seems that this is only helpful as a looooose guideline for what ratings may (or may not) be here. I compared some of these numbers to some of the numbers on our local club's website for the boats that I know and some of them are pretty close and some of them are way out there like Allen's. It seems that if you don't have a certificate the local group assigns a number to you. It will be interesting to see if this is how they get that number. Thanks again, Mike From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 7:40:07 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 (Mike and All) There are lots of errors in this listing. You may note that some of the information is in miles, some in nautical miles. In other words, it is useless. I have talked to them and they point out that these numbers should never be used and it says as much in the header. They are almost never updated with the exception of the header that says they are updated several times a year. They just change the header date as far as I can tell. My boat, a Lapworth-36, shows a rating of 126. Actual ratings of L-36s around the country run from 150 to 218. While there are lots of people in our local beer can race group that would like to see me have a rating of 126, I don't think any L-36 every had that rating. They told me it would be corrected on the next update. That was a year ago. Just so you know. Allen On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <husar_charlie@ bah.com> wrote: >Mike, the following from US Sailing can be useful for guessing possible >ratings. In the Chesapeake, most older hulls are at the high end of the >numbers. For example, CAL 25s are now at 231, although very few of us race >PHRF. > >http://offshore. ussailing. org/Assets/ Offshore/ PHRF/High+ Low+Mean+ >PHRF+Handicaps. pdf > >Might need a copy-paste to look at this, but is is also on the US Sailing PHRF >web site. > >Cheers >Charlie > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Greg Reinhard >Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:25 PM >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >I have a 28-2 and sail out of Kent Island Md. There do not seem to be many >around although I believe they were briefly sold by Lippencott Marine in the >80's. Wonder if there are any others in the Bay. > >Greg > > > > From: Michael Hofstetter <mkhofstetter@ yahoo.com> >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 7:06:20 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last summer. > >So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any serious >bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I would imagine >that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as the later Cals >were exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I am not sure >exactly how many hulls were produced. > >I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes in >the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a VERY >VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against comparable sized >boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races in the fall. As of >now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF rating. > >Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, I >religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and every >one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded beam >thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be helpful >to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do some day. >The people that make up the list really have a wealth of knowledge. > >Thanks, > >Mike Hofstetter >'88 28-2 Sails Call >Baltimore, MD > > >

Hi Michael. Your local PHRF committee will assign you a rating after you have answered questions regarding sail area ,displacement hull dimensions. engine etc. If you have a class,unmodified boat a base rating will be assigned. If not a decision will be made by the committee. On S F Bay this is done in the YRA office in Ft. Mason. You can check out the sfbayyra website and norcalphrf web for lots of information. It may not be the same where you are but it may answer some questions about how ratings are determined My Best, Mike From: Michael Hofstetter <mk… [at] yahoo.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 6:17:47 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 (Allen and Charlie) Thanks for the followup and info on PHRF guys. After looking at the numbers, and reading Allen's followup post, it seems that this is only helpful as a looooose guideline for what ratings may (or may not) be here. I compared some of these numbers to some of the numbers on our local club's website for the boats that I know and some of them are pretty close and some of them are way out there like Allen's. It seems that if you don't have a certificate the local group assigns a number to you. It will be interesting to see if this is how they get that number. Thanks again, Mike From: Allen Edwards <al… [at] PaloAltoPhoto.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 7:40:07 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 (Mike and All) There are lots of errors in this listing. You may note that some of the information is in miles, some in nautical miles. In other words, it is useless. I have talked to them and they point out that these numbers should never be used and it says as much in the header. They are almost never updated with the exception of the header that says they are updated several times a year. They just change the header date as far as I can tell. My boat, a Lapworth-36, shows a rating of 126. Actual ratings of L-36s around the country run from 150 to 218. While there are lots of people in our local beer can race group that would like to see me have a rating of 126, I don't think any L-36 every had that rating. They told me it would be corrected on the next update. That was a year ago. Just so you know. Allen On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Husar, Charlie [USA] <husar_charlie@ bah.com> wrote: >Mike, the following from US Sailing can be useful for guessing possible >ratings. In the Chesapeake, most older hulls are at the high end of the >numbers. For example, CAL 25s are now at 231, although very few of us race >PHRF. > >http://offshore. ussailing. org/Assets/ Offshore/ PHRF/High+ Low+Mean+ >PHRF+Handicaps. pdf > >Might need a copy-paste to look at this, but is is also on the US Sailing PHRF >web site. > >Cheers >Charlie > > > > From: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com [mailto:Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Greg Reinhard >Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:25 PM >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >I have a 28-2 and sail out of Kent Island Md. There do not seem to be many >around although I believe they were briefly sold by Lippencott Marine in the >80's. Wonder if there are any others in the Bay. > >Greg > > > > From: Michael Hofstetter <mkhofstetter@ yahoo.com> >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 7:06:20 PM >Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >I have a '88 28-2 that I keep in Baltimore that was new to me last summer. > >So far, it has been a wonderful boat that is easy to handle, lacks any serious >bad sailing manners, and has been relatively low maintenance. I would imagine >that we hear less about the Hunt boats than the Lapworths as the later Cals were >exponentially outnumbered by the earlier models though I am not sure exactly how >many hulls were produced. > >I grew up only cruising as opposed to racing so I am slowly putting my toes in >the water as it pertains to racing. I am now racing on thursdays with a VERY >VERY casual local group and we are faring pretty well against comparable sized >boats. I intend on competing in BCYA PHRF non-spin races in the fall. As of >now, I am not sure where the local clubs have my PHRF rating. > >Though little of the information on this list pertains directly to my boat, I >religiously read every post and feel like I get something out of each and every >one. Many of the topics that come up on here (other than the dreaded beam >thankfully) discuss materials, skills, and modifications that could be helpful >to know about with the odds and ends that I need to do or will do some day. The >people that make up the list really have a wealth of knowledge. > >Thanks, > >Mike Hofstetter >'88 28-2 Sails Call >Baltimore, MD > > >

Greg, I have the manual that came with the boat. If you need any info let me know and I will get it to you. My boat was /is in good condition. I bought the boat in Charleston, SC and had some work done there and the motored up the Intra coastal. I made to Cape May,NJ and had some health problems. I had to hire a Capt. to bring it the rest of the way to Stratford, CT. I have one project to do, an AC/Heater was installed that prevented me from getting to the water heater to winterize it so I removed the AC/Heater ( Its for sale ). During the AC installation they removed the ice box. My project is to reinstall an Ice box. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Reinhard To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located Bert? Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyce To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

Greg Does the owners manual have any specifics on the engine stop cable. My friend broke his and we are looking for a replacement. John B. Cal 227 _____ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bert Pesak Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:20 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2  Greg, I have the manual that came with the boat. If you need any info let me know and I will get it to you. My boat was /is in good condition. I bought the boat in Charleston, SC and had some work done there and the motored up the Intra coastal. I made to Cape May,NJ and had some health problems. I had to hire a Capt. to bring it the rest of the way to Stratford, CT. I have one project to do, an AC/Heater was installed that prevented me from getting to the water heater to winterize it so I removed the AC/Heater ( Its for sale ). During the AC installation they removed the ice box. My project is to reinstall an Ice box. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. Bert Pesak From: Greg <mailto:gr… [at] yahoo.com> Reinhard To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located Bert? Greg _____ From: Bert Pesak <bjp3167@gmail. <mailto:bj… [at] gmail.com> com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak From: John Boyce <mailto:je… [at] gmail.com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

Most of the shift/throttle cables are standard Morse cables. You should be able to see the length (in inches) stamped into the shield a few inches back from one end. They should be available at any boat parts store, especially if the store supports power or work boats. Ymmv John From: "John Boyce" <je… [at] gmail.com> Sender: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:29:31 To: <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Greg Does the owners manual have any specifics on the engine stop cable. My friend broke his and we are looking for a replacement. John B. Cal 227 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bert Pesak Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:20 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2  Greg, I have the manual that came with the boat. If you need any info let me know and I will get it to you. My boat was /is in good condition. I bought the boat in Charleston, SC and had some work done there and the motored up the Intra coastal. I made to Cape May,NJ and had some health problems. I had to hire a Capt. to bring it the rest of the way to Stratford, CT. I have one project to do, an AC/Heater was installed that prevented me from getting to the water heater to winterize it so I removed the AC/Heater ( Its for sale ). During the AC installation they removed the ice box. My project is to reinstall an Ice box. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. Bert Pesak From: Greg <mailto:gr… [at] yahoo.com> Reinhard To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located Bert? Greg From: Bert Pesak <bjp3167@gmail. <mailto:bj… [at] gmail.com> com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ps.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak From: John Boyce <mailto:je… [at] gmail.com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

Thanks Bert. How many pgs in the manual? Greg From: Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 1:20:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2  Greg, I have the manual that came with the boat. If you need any info let me know and I will get it to you. My boat was /is in good condition. I bought the boat in Charleston, SC and had some work done there and the motored up the Intra coastal. I made to Cape May,NJ and had some health problems. I had to hire a Capt. to bring it the rest of the way to Stratford, CT. I have one project to do, an AC/Heater was installed that prevented me from getting to the water heater to winterize it so I removed the AC/Heater ( Its for sale ). During the AC installation they removed the ice box. My project is to reinstall an Ice box. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. Bert Pesak >From: Greg Reinhard >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:28 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located >Bert? > >Greg > > > > > > > From: Bert Pesak <bjp3167@gmail. com> >To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM >Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 > > >I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. > >Bert Pesak > > >----- Original Message ----- >>From: John Boyce >>To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com >>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM >>Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 >> >> >>I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my >>227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. >>I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race >>it. >

Greg, It is about 50 double sided pages. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Reinhard To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Thanks Bert. How many pgs in the manual? Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 1:20:18 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2  Greg, I have the manual that came with the boat. If you need any info let me know and I will get it to you. My boat was /is in good condition. I bought the boat in Charleston, SC and had some work done there and the motored up the Intra coastal. I made to Cape May,NJ and had some health problems. I had to hire a Capt. to bring it the rest of the way to Stratford, CT. I have one project to do, an AC/Heater was installed that prevented me from getting to the water heater to winterize it so I removed the AC/Heater ( Its for sale ). During the AC installation they removed the ice box. My project is to reinstall an Ice box. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Reinhard To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located Bert? Greg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Pesak <bjp3167@gmail. com> To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyce To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

John B. There is nothing in the manuals about the engine stop cable. You should be able replace from WM or Defender if you can get the length from the old one either from markings on the cable or by pulling it out and measuring the length. I put a string on cables when I pull them out to make sure I have trail when putting the new one in. Bert ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyce To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2  Greg Does the owners manual have any specifics on the engine stop cable. My friend broke his and we are looking for a replacement. John B. Cal 227 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bert Pesak Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 12:20 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2  Greg, I have the manual that came with the boat. If you need any info let me know and I will get it to you. My boat was /is in good condition. I bought the boat in Charleston, SC and had some work done there and the motored up the Intra coastal. I made to Cape May,NJ and had some health problems. I had to hire a Capt. to bring it the rest of the way to Stratford, CT. I have one project to do, an AC/Heater was installed that prevented me from getting to the water heater to winterize it so I removed the AC/Heater ( Its for sale ). During the AC installation they removed the ice box. My project is to reinstall an Ice box. Let me know if I can be of any help to you. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Reinhard To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 Mine is 1986, do not race it but am thinking about it. Where are you located Bert? Greg ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bert Pesak <bj… [at] gmail.com> To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 6:27:50 PM Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I have a 1989 and do not race it. I have had it 3 years. Bert Pesak ----- Original Message ----- From: John Boyce To: Cal_Boats@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:50 PM Subject: [Cal_Boats] CAL 28-2 I've been sailing on a friend's 28-2 for several years now, in addition to my 227, and I've noticed that there seems to be no mention of the 28-2 on the list. I wonder if there is anyone on the list who has one and if they do do they race it.

Does anyone on the list race a 28-2 with a Spinnaker? Having raced my 227 for decades without ever rounding up or having a more spectacular Chinese gybe I also crew on a 28-2 and it has some of the most exciting tendencies while on a run. I am wondering if this is inherent with this boat or should we be doing something to correct the problem. John B Cal 227 #650 Gotcha Again