One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please

I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

Nothing for the Cal Cruising 36 either. Chris Roberts From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 2:09 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Subject: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

I turned 81 on March 19. I visited your boat when you were in Annapolis some years back and can attest that it is a great design. I also intend to sell my Cal 31 that I have had for 19 years because the work required to keep it looking good is getting to be too much for me and I don’t want to continue to pay people to do it. Harleigh Ewell Cal 31 Kat’s Cradle From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 1:51 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; ca… [at] yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater?

No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” > On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, > > I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. > > Tom & Bobbie Vandiver > > On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 > > All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models > >

Hi, All. Doing a GOOD Wikipedia article is quit an undertaking. Take a look at sailboatdata.com for a much more complete treatment of Cals. By the way, Tom Vandiver mentioned a Cal National Championship. That was in a Cal 25 (proud to say). Might have been 1972, Tom. Take Care Charlie Annapolis 2 Cal 25s and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Yahoo Mail <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:bs… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges.. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

I tried to sign up to Wikipedia today so I could learn to post there. I got in a chat with someone there. He asked me to pay $5.99 to be able to post to Wikipedia. I agreed and when I tried to pay with my credit card they tried to charge me $599. My bank flagged it and disabled my credit card. Kevin Powell From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Todd Howe td… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Yahoo Mail <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:bs… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges.. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com<mailto:ca… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

I raced on the !st cal 27 pop top owned by Rod Simenez sailed out of Marina Del Rey in the mid 70s call Puff 2 I think From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:10 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; 'Todd Howe' Subject: RE: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please Hi, All. Doing a GOOD Wikipedia article is quit an undertaking. Take a look at sailboatdata.com for a much more complete treatment of Cals. By the way, Tom Vandiver mentioned a Cal National Championship. That was in a Cal 25 (proud to say). Might have been 1972, Tom. Take Care Charlie Annapolis 2 Cal 25s and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Yahoo Mail <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges.. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

Thanks Charlie, I heard something about age and memory....? I will check the date on the trophy next time I polish it... ;-) On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 04:28:03 PM CDT, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi, All. Doing a GOOD Wikipedia article is quit an undertaking. Take a look at sailboatdata.com for a much more complete treatment of Cals. By the way, Tom Vandiver mentioned a Cal National Championship. That was in a Cal 25 (proud to say). Might have been 1972, Tom. Take Care Charlie Annapolis 2 Cal 25s and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Yahoo Mail <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges.. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

It must have been a "Scammer". I have been on Wikipedia for years and never paid anything? On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 4:44:19 PM CDT, K P po… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I tried to sign up to Wikipedia today so I could learn to post there. I got in a chat with someone there. He asked me to pay $5.99 to be able to post to Wikipedia. I agreed and when I tried to pay with my credit card they tried to charge me $599. My bank flagged it and disabled my credit card. Kevin Powell From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Todd Howe td… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 11:13 AM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Yahoo Mail <bs… [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges.. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

BTW, the trophy Tom is holding is still in use (I think it’s the same one) as the Cal 25 Nationals Perpetual Trophy. We are just running out of space for winners’ name plates. BTW2, I first climbed on a Cal 25 in 1973. Friend bought one. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 7:21 PM To: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please Thanks Charlie, I heard something about age and memory....? I will check the date on the trophy next time I polish it... ;-) On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 04:28:03 PM CDT, 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com <mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Hi, All. Doing a GOOD Wikipedia article is quit an undertaking. Take a look at sailboatdata.com for a much more complete treatment of Cals. By the way, Tom Vandiver mentioned a Cal National Championship. That was in a Cal 25 (proud to say). Might have been 1972, Tom. Take Care Charlie Annapolis 2 Cal 25s and Cal 40 From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:14 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> ; Yahoo Mail <bs… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:bs… [at] yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please No entries for the 3-30. I will see if I can work on it?” On Jul 29, 2019, at 10:50 PM, Yahoo Mail bs… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:bs… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Thanks for posting. I will be posting to Wikipedia about Cal Boats I have had and have, like " Satori" my Cal Cruising 46 that we bought from Jack Jensen's estate in 1982, Yes, that's correct I've had the same boat 37 years. I bought my first Cal in 1970, "Toro" and won the Nationals in 1973. I recently celebrated my 81'st birthday, Am I the oldest Cal Boater? I have been a Cal Boater 49 years, I must sadly announce that my Cal 46 is for sale due to health challenges.. She is at my dock on Bayou Chico, Pensacola, Florida undergoing some minor cosmetic improvements. After all she was launched in November 1967, only 52 years ago, but is still IMHO the best cruising sailboat ever built. My wife and I lived aboard and cruised from 1988 to 2002. It was better than we had ever dreamed. Tom & Bobbie Vandiver On Monday, July 29, 2019, 3:19:19 PM CDT, ca… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:ca… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > wrote: I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40> All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

If its easy to do then why don't you just do it? From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

Why bother with wikipedia, to try to condense everything we know and have to share here on the List, when even now and then something new pops up? The wiki site can't discern when someone thinks they have all the answers doesn't even know whether or not their own boat has keel bolts, or a type of beam. Who has the time or inclination to correct the misinformation? And who besides us really cares what wiki would have to say about our boats? Why waste Tom's time when it is all here? I vote no. Helen Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:58 AM, K P po… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats]<Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: If its easy to do then why don't you just do it? From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf of ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! Check out this sorry page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing world! Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models

Just remember the data will only be there as long as wikipedia exists. Too bad there isn't a hard cover book. I love books. Have you visited this site? http://pages.sssnet.com/go2erie/calhome.htm Leslie Newman Former CAL 33-2 owner. Loved my CAL, just moved up to a larger boat. On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:43 PM 'he… [at] sbcglobal.net' he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Why bother with wikipedia, to try to condense everything we know and have > to share here on the List, when even now and then something new pops up? > The wiki site can't discern when someone thinks they have all the answers > doesn't even know whether or not their own boat has keel bolts, or a type > of beam. Who has the time or inclination to correct the misinformation? > And who besides us really cares what wiki would have to say about our > boats? Why waste Tom's time when it is all here? I vote no. Helen > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature> > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:58 AM, K P po… [at] msn.com [Cal_Boats] > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > If its easy to do then why don't you just do it? > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> on behalf > of ca… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Sent:* Monday, July 29, 2019 1:08 PM > *To:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Subject:* [Cal_Boats] One of You Cal 40 Experts Might Want to Complete a > Cal 40 Entry on Wikipedia, Please > > > > I just visited Cal Boats on Wikipedia and was distressed to see so few > entries on each Cal Boat design. It is easy to do. There isn't even an > entry for the Cal 40! Could one of you experts please step up to the plate > before your expertise is lost to the ages? The world will thank you! > Check out this sorry page. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_40 > > All others need to be updated, too! Leave your maek on the sailing > world! Please. > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_Yachts#Models > > >

On 8/8/2019 12:36 PM, 'he… [at] sbcglobal.net' he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > Why bother with wikipedia, to try to condense everything we know and > have to share here on the List, when even now and then something new > pops up? As the owner of two interesting old boats, including my cool Cal 20, I think it's important to have a readily-accessible information source. When I'm doing an online search, I'll usually pick the Wikipedia entry first because it's usually helpful and succinct. Yeah, you can often find more details elsewhere, but that may require lots of digging. For a quick summary, Wikipedia is a great choice. Now let's imagine that somebody (somebody young, perhaps) has heard about a Cal 40 that's available, and wants to know more about it. A Wikipedia entry could be their way of learning that this vessel is a classic, a symbol of a new way of thinking about offshore boat design, etc. Speaking of symbols, a Wikipedia entry symbolizes the importance of a subject. Seems to me that the Cal 40 was a significant enough breakthrough design that it deserves a good summary. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, /Martha C/

Are big Cals like the 40 and 34 squirrely at the helm like the Cal 25 I last sailed, or, the Catalina 27? If you are not very very careful throwing in a tack, the boat will 'over-turn' (not capsize) and want to rip the tiller out of your hand, and radically turn on a dime if you are even going at a slow speed. Yuck. I love me Cal 24-1 with mellow handling.Considering purchasing a Cal 34-III some day, of a Cal 3-34, or a Cal 34-3. I wonder if they shortened the boom so much in part to reduce weather helm? My new Cal 24-1 #61 has more weather helm than my old (but newer..ha ha) Cal 24-1 #71 because it's P.O. installed a full roach main. (why is it called "roach". I never saw cockroaches on it?) But, damn, does it go faster...whoooooshh..just like that!! It likes to run down and crush anything under 30'..including some Olympic class Solings that aren't sailed by the best in our fleet. Woohooo, or as I like to put it, Wooowhooo!! Jerry of Shpritz (4-sale) and "Grande Finale"...formerly Steve Cole's "Zest". Call me COMMODORE VANDERBILT! Me has two boats, making it a "fleet". Ouch. 2 slips at $343 a month, and they are only 22' long. At least me diver gave me a quantity discount this month and charged me $40 for two boats instead of $25 each. He is 'Steve' of Hullworkz. Good work and reliable, unlike the other divers I've had. It pays to bring your boat into a clean water marina, like King Harbor, put on a Speedo and swim googles, and check your diver's handiwork. You might find out he's only been cleaning your water line and not the rest of the hull!! BTW I adopted the middle name for a year in 5th grade after a certain Sgt. Bilko episode, where he meets a bum who asks for five cents for a cup of coffee, and it turns out his name is "Hilton". You can imagine what happens after that. Try to find it on YouTube. Hilarious!. On Friday, August 9, 2019, 9:14:43 AM PDT, ccampbell cc… [at] lsnm.org [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: On 8/8/2019 12:36 PM, 'he… [at] sbcglobal.net' he… [at] sbcglobal.net [Cal_Boats] wrote: Why bother with wikipedia, to try to condense everything we know and have to share here on the List, when even now and then something new pops up? As the owner of two interesting old boats, including my cool Cal 20, I think it's important to have a readily-accessible information source. When I'm doing an online search, I'll usually pick the Wikipedia entry first because it's usually helpful and succinct. Yeah, you can often find more details elsewhere, but that may require lots of digging. For a quick summary, Wikipedia is a great choice. Now let's imagine that somebody (somebody young, perhaps) has heard about a Cal 40 that's available, and wants to know more about it. A Wikipedia entry could be their way of learning that this vessel is a classic, a symbol of a new way of thinking about offshore boat design, etc. Speaking of symbols, a Wikipedia entry symbolizes the importance of a subject. Seems to me that the Cal 40 was a significant enough breakthrough design that it deserves a good summary. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, Martha C