6 messages2019-08-22 20:21 UTCthrough 2019-08-23 16:17 UTC
Papoose update
Allen Edwards2019-08-22 20:21 UTC
Hi All
There was a thread about getting younger people involved in sailing. It is
happening around here for what might be an odd reason that you might find
interesting. Housing cost in the SF Bay area are very high so some younger
people are buying boats or vans as a place to sleep. They then need a place
to shower and cook better than what they can do on a boat or in a van. They
have started joining our yacht club which is very inexpensive. They then
start coming to the after race dinners and get on crews as all the boat
owners are in need of crew. it is a win-win and is changing the character
of the after race parties for the better.
It has been a long time since I posted. For anyone who doesn't know me, I
am an honorary cal boat member having a Lapworth designed wood L-36 hull
#5. I also run a website that you either know or should called L-36.com.
This racing season was a bit different for me. We have three series each 5
races. The first series saw me tie with a C&C-41 with both boats getting
1-1-2-2-4. We both tossed out the 4 and still tied at 6 points each. We
tied after the first tie breaker but I lost the second tie breaker as they
won the last race. Then I cut my finger almost in half. It broke the bone
and left a gap which is still there. Not sure how that is going to turn out
yet. I thought the guard on the table saw was good and it was for 4 years
but with the blade up higher like it was that day it cut through the guard
and 3/4 through the tip of my little finger. Call it a case of false sense
of security. I completely missed the second series. Back in it for the
third series with one more race to go. After 4 races I have 4 points so I
can toss the last race and nobody is going to tie me this time. The last
two races were interesting. The first of those had us quite a bit behind
the boat we had tied with in the first series and they were almost at the
finish line. But they were stopped. We were sailing on their line and
could have rammed their transom but just waved as we sailed by. We were
first boat across the line. For calibration, every boat in our fleet owes
us time and that boat owes us 78 seconds per mile. This last race was also
strange. The course was almost two reaching legs. On the more downwind leg
we basically rode the wake of the C&C-41 going 7 to 8 knots all the way
with a 130 jib. Back was more upwind at 6-7 knots. Wind was 7 knots to 25
knots during the race. By the finish, we were up with 3 other 41 foot boats
just 30 seconds behind the lead boat. Just 20 seconds behind the C&C-41.
The closest boat from the rest of the fleet was a J-30 which was 3 minutes
back. They owe us just 9 seconds per mile.
Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose update
Gerald Sobel2019-08-22 21:07 UTC
Hi Allen!Wonderful to hear from you and so so sorry to hear about your misadventure with your table saw. Seems everyday that goes by in out lives sheet happens (like seems daily mass shootings that leave lives and families permanently shattered). I have never recovered from a slip and fall which landed me with the sharp corner of an upright board fastened along the top of a cockpit seat of a Santana 35 breaking my tailbone. Not only is it constant pain, but went into my spine and affected even my walking gait! Uggh! and Aarrgh! Anyway, I'm going to pickyback this letter to the club on yours as it's somewhat related and parallel, but mostly, somehow there's a glitch in the Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com website that spits out anything I post independently, but not replies to other's posts. So here goes...
Family and Friends,
We had only one crew-person show up of Tuesday's final race of Series 4. He arrived a minute before we had to shove off lest we miss our race start. His 'Uber' ride had been stuck in rush hour gridlock taking an hour and twenty minutes to make the short trip from Westwood/UCLA to Marina del Rey. Fortunately, he'd left his back pack on our boat. He'd had a celebratory hang over Sunday morning after our second place finish festivities of Sat. evening at Shoreline YC. for the long 23 mile Queen Mary Race, which left him too incapacitated to show up for Sunday's Great Circle race, to come back to retrieve it till then. ( Hearing this, I'm selfishly thinking, "ha ha, lucky hang over, for ME!").
I was anxious to do well in the final race of Series 4 of our club's "TNT" season long racing program (TNT=Tuesday Nite Trials, going from Daylite Savings start to Daylite Savings End) and sailing without another crewman to help disabled Eric, who is about to have hernia surgery, would have been harder.
Despite one of my keen competitors being out for blood to avenge his defeat-and my first place in Sunday's Vic Smith [Memorial] Great Circle Race and BBQ victory-, catching me by the lee and forcing me to come upwind and T-bone the Committee Boat's cabin cruiser, or, to spin the boat (I'll have to learn how to spin my Cal 24 faster next time!!) We thus we spun around and recovered-but, behind most of the fleet, and him 50 yards ahead. But we persevered and went on to win that forth race with Grande Finale (and fifth straight for Series #4, and with it, the Series trophy. However, afterwards, at the club, as the winners were announced, I worried that the required "throw-out" race wouldn't be my first race, first place with Shpritz which I was told wouldn't count because I was on a different boat, even tho both my boats are Cal 24-1's, but the one of the races I did with Grand Finale, giving me only three races sailed, which thus would have put me out of the running. But it didn't....Whew!
I gave me new crew Victor Lu (the Penn State Sailing team member, class of 2019) the trophy cup for the race, putting a smile on his face. He wanted to know what the inscription VSTNT meant. I told him, Victor Smith Tuesday Nite Trials, in honor of our late race chairman of the Venture MacGregor Fleet...then, an even BIGGER smile!
Roy (former owner): Thanks again for encouraging me to get crew on board with advanced skills as befits "Grand Finale"'s potential. Until then I thought I was lucky to get any enthusiastic crew person on board to help out.
I've another fellow in the works thru the "Go Sailing" app., from Hawaii, who was fore-deck on J24's and Melges 24' Sport Boats. Sounds like 'just the ticket' for up coming racing, since I want to try my hand at flying the big spinnaker balloon sail.
And I've decided to move up to the "A" fleet. Since B fleet had now given me boat a lowered PHRF handicap of 170 seconds per mile (vs. its true original 240 seconds per mile) for this final race. B fleet tries to give crews better chances to win, and they would have carried over the 170spm handicap, then dock me down to 150spm for next race, into Series #5 making it much harder to win. Instead, Fleet A resets the handicap to original placard PHRF at the beginning of each of the six series, and limits the change in handicap for each following race. Much, much better for Grande Finale and crew, and higher caliber competition from the other bigger and faster boats.
I've been feeling goofy from lack of sleep, but, except for the copious muscle pains and joint aches from advancing age, I'm the happiest right now that I've ever been in my life. I feel like I'm floating on 'Cloud 9'. All the adulation from club members and co-competitors is a bit intoxicating, and makes up for a childhood filled with too much annoying, teasing, fun-making and put-downs (yeah, I think those inflictions do damage to one's soul and distort one's self image that one may carry on thru life). LIFE IS GOOD!
To all of you, the best!Gerald
On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 1:36:24 PM PDT, Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi All
There was a thread about getting younger people involved in sailing. It is happening around here for what might be an odd reason that you might find interesting. Housing cost in the SF Bay area are very high so some younger people are buying boats or vans as a place to sleep. They then need a place to shower and cook better than what they can do on a boat or in a van. They have started joining our yacht club which is very inexpensive. They then start coming to the after race dinners and get on crews as all the boat owners are in need of crew. it is a win-win and is changing the character of the after race parties for the better.
It has been a long time since I posted. For anyone who doesn't know me, I am an honorary cal boat member having a Lapworth designed wood L-36 hull #5. I also run a website that you either know or should called L-36.com. This racing season was a bit different for me. We have three series each 5 races. The first series saw me tie with a C&C-41 with both boats getting 1-1-2-2-4. We both tossed out the 4 and still tied at 6 points each. We tied after the first tie breaker but I lost the second tie breaker as they won the last race. Then I cut my finger almost in half. It broke the bone and left a gap which is still there. Not sure how that is going to turn out yet. I thought the guard on the table saw was good and it was for 4 years but with the blade up higher like it was that day it cut through the guard and 3/4 through the tip of my little finger. Call it a case of false sense of security. I completely missed the second series. Back in it for the third series with one more race to go. After 4 races I have 4 points so I can toss the last race and nobody is going to tie me this time. The last two races were interesting. The first of those had us quite a bit behind the boat we had tied with in the first series and they were almost at the finish line. But they were stopped. We were sailing on their line and could have rammed their transom but just waved as we sailed by. We were first boat across the line. For calibration, every boat in our fleet owes us time and that boat owes us 78 seconds per mile. This last race was also strange. The course was almost two reaching legs. On the more downwind leg we basically rode the wake of the C&C-41 going 7 to 8 knots all the way with a 130 jib. Back was more upwind at 6-7 knots. Wind was 7 knots to 25 knots during the race. By the finish, we were up with 3 other 41 foot boats just 30 seconds behind the lead boat. Just 20 seconds behind the C&C-41. The closest boat from the rest of the fleet was a J-30 which was 3 minutes back. They owe us just 9 seconds per mile..
Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose update
Allen Edwards2019-08-22 21:10 UTC
Your post went out the first time. I read it earlier today.
Allen
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 2:07 PM Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com
[Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Allen!
> Wonderful to hear from you and so so sorry to hear about your misadventure
> with your table saw. Seems everyday that goes by in out lives sheet happens
> (like seems daily mass shootings that leave lives and families permanently
> shattered). I have never recovered from a slip and fall which landed me
> with the sharp corner of an upright board fastened along the top of a
> cockpit seat of a Santana 35 breaking my tailbone. Not only is it constant
> pain, but went into my spine and affected even my walking gait! Uggh! and
> Aarrgh! Anyway, I'm going to pickyback this letter to the club on yours as
> it's somewhat related and parallel, but mostly, somehow there's a glitch in
> the Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com website that spits out anything I post
> independently, but not replies to other's posts. So here goes...
>
> Family and Friends,
>
> We had only one crew-person show up of Tuesday's final race of Series
> 4. He arrived a minute before we had to shove off lest we miss our race
> start. His 'Uber' ride had been stuck in rush hour gridlock taking an hour
> and twenty minutes to make the short trip from Westwood/UCLA to Marina del
> Rey. Fortunately, he'd left his back pack on our boat. He'd had a
> celebratory hang over Sunday morning after our second place finish
> festivities of Sat. evening at Shoreline YC. for the long 23 mile Queen
> Mary Race, which left him too incapacitated to show up for Sunday's Great
> Circle race, to come back to retrieve it till then. ( Hearing this, I'm
> selfishly thinking, "ha ha, lucky hang over, for ME!").
>
> I was anxious to do well in the final race of Series 4 of our club's
> "TNT" season long racing program (TNT=Tuesday Nite Trials, going from
> Daylite Savings start to Daylite Savings End) and sailing without another
> crewman to help disabled Eric, who is about to have hernia surgery, would
> have been harder.
>
> Despite one of my keen competitors being out for blood to avenge his
> defeat-and my first place in Sunday's Vic Smith [Memorial] Great Circle
> Race and BBQ victory-, catching me by the lee and forcing me to come upwind
> and T-bone the Committee Boat's cabin cruiser, or, to spin the boat (I'll
> have to learn how to spin my Cal 24 faster next time!!) We thus we spun
> around and recovered-but, behind most of the fleet, and him 50 yards ahead.
> But we persevered and went on to win that forth race with Grande Finale
> (and fifth straight for Series #4, and with it, the Series trophy.
> However, afterwards, at the club, as the winners were announced, I worried
> that the required "throw-out" race wouldn't be my first race, first place
> with Shpritz which I was told wouldn't count because I was on a different
> boat, even tho both my boats are Cal 24-1's, but the one of the races I did
> with Grand Finale, giving me only three races sailed, which thus would have
> put me out of the running. But it didn't....Whew!
>
> I gave me new crew Victor Lu (the Penn State Sailing team member,
> class of 2019) the trophy cup for the race, putting a smile on his face. He
> wanted to know what the inscription VSTNT meant. I told him, Victor Smith
> Tuesday Nite Trials, in honor of our late race chairman of the Venture
> MacGregor Fleet...then, an even BIGGER smile!
>
> Roy (former owner): Thanks again for encouraging me to get crew on
> board with advanced skills as befits "Grand Finale"'s potential. Until then
> I thought I was lucky to get any enthusiastic crew person on board to help
> out.
>
> I've another fellow in the works thru the "Go Sailing" app., from
> Hawaii, who was fore-deck on J24's and Melges 24' Sport Boats. Sounds like
> 'just the ticket' for up coming racing, since I want to try my hand at
> flying the big spinnaker balloon sail.
>
> And I've decided to move up to the "A" fleet. Since B fleet had now
> given me boat a lowered PHRF handicap of 170 seconds per mile (vs. its true
> original 240 seconds per mile) for this final race. B fleet tries to give
> crews better chances to win, and they would have carried over the 170spm
> handicap, then dock me down to 150spm for next race, into Series #5 making
> it much harder to win. Instead, Fleet A resets the handicap to original
> placard PHRF at the beginning of each of the six series, and limits the
> change in handicap for each following race. Much, much better for Grande
> Finale and crew, and higher caliber competition from the other bigger and
> faster boats.
>
> I've been feeling goofy from lack of sleep, but, except for the
> copious muscle pains and joint aches from advancing age, I'm the happiest
> right now that I've ever been in my life. I feel like I'm floating on
> 'Cloud 9'. All the adulation from club members and co-competitors is a bit
> intoxicating, and makes up for a childhood filled with too much annoying,
> teasing, fun-making and put-downs (yeah, I think those inflictions do
> damage to one's soul and distort one's self image that one may carry on
> thru life). LIFE IS GOOD!
>
> To all of you, the best!
> Gerald
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> On Thursday, August 22, 2019, 1:36:24 PM PDT, Allen Edwards
> al… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi All
>
> There was a thread about getting younger people involved in sailing. It is
> happening around here for what might be an odd reason that you might find
> interesting. Housing cost in the SF Bay area are very high so some younger
> people are buying boats or vans as a place to sleep. They then need a place
> to shower and cook better than what they can do on a boat or in a van. They
> have started joining our yacht club which is very inexpensive. They then
> start coming to the after race dinners and get on crews as all the boat
> owners are in need of crew. it is a win-win and is changing the character
> of the after race parties for the better.
>
> It has been a long time since I posted. For anyone who doesn't know me, I
> am an honorary cal boat member having a Lapworth designed wood L-36 hull
> #5. I also run a website that you either know or should called L-36.com.
> This racing season was a bit different for me. We have three series each 5
> races. The first series saw me tie with a C&C-41 with both boats getting
> 1-1-2-2-4. We both tossed out the 4 and still tied at 6 points each. We
> tied after the first tie breaker but I lost the second tie breaker as they
> won the last race. Then I cut my finger almost in half. It broke the bone
> and left a gap which is still there. Not sure how that is going to turn out
> yet. I thought the guard on the table saw was good and it was for 4 years
> but with the blade up higher like it was that day it cut through the guard
> and 3/4 through the tip of my little finger. Call it a case of false sense
> of security. I completely missed the second series. Back in it for the
> third series with one more race to go. After 4 races I have 4 points so I
> can toss the last race and nobody is going to tie me this time. The last
> two races were interesting. The first of those had us quite a bit behind
> the boat we had tied with in the first series and they were almost at the
> finish line. But they were stopped. We were sailing on their line and
> could have rammed their transom but just waved as we sailed by. We were
> first boat across the line. For calibration, every boat in our fleet owes
> us time and that boat owes us 78 seconds per mile. This last race was also
> strange. The course was almost two reaching legs. On the more downwind leg
> we basically rode the wake of the C&C-41 going 7 to 8 knots all the way
> with a 130 jib. Back was more upwind at 6-7 knots. Wind was 7 knots to 25
> knots during the race. By the finish, we were up with 3 other 41 foot boats
> just 30 seconds behind the lead boat. Just 20 seconds behind the C&C-41.
> The closest boat from the rest of the fleet was a J-30 which was 3 minutes
> back. They owe us just 9 seconds per mile..
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose update
ccampbell2019-08-23 13:38 UTC
Congratulations on the race results... perhaps there are more young
people joining in but sometimes age (boat & skipper) can be an advantage
if it's accompanied by experience & knowledge.
Too bad on the finger.... I always try to stay afraid of the table
saw. It helps to read about accidents because they remind me that the
device is just waiting to bite if you make a misjudgment.
Chris Campbell
On 8/22/2019 4:21 PM, Allen Edwards al… [at] gmail.com
[Cal_Boats] wrote:
>
>
> Hi All
>
> There was a thread about getting younger people involved in sailing.
> It is happening around here for what might be an odd reason that you
> might find interesting. Housing cost in the SF Bay area are very high
> so some younger people are buying boats or vans as a place to sleep.
> They then need a place to shower and cook better than what they can do
> on a boat or in a van. They have started joining our yacht club which
> is very inexpensive. They then start coming to the after race dinners
> and get on crews as all the boat owners are in need of crew. it is a
> win-win and is changing the character of the after race parties for
> the better.
>
> It has been a long time since I posted. For anyone who doesn't know
> me, I am an honorary cal boat member having a Lapworth designed wood
> L-36 hull #5. I also run a website that you either know or should
> called L-36.com. This racing season was a bit different for me. We
> have three series each 5 races. The first series saw me tie with a
> C&C-41 with both boats getting 1-1-2-2-4. We both tossed out the 4 and
> still tied at 6 points each. We tied after the first tie breaker but I
> lost the second tie breaker as they won the last race. Then I cut my
> finger almost in half. It broke the bone and left a gap which is still
> there. Not sure how that is going to turn out yet. I thought the guard
> on the table saw was good and it was for 4 years but with the blade up
> higher like it was that day it cut through the guard and 3/4 through
> the tip of my little finger. Call it a case of false sense of
> security. I completely missed the second series. Back in it for the
> third series with one more race to go. After 4 races I have 4 points
> so I can toss the last race and nobody is going to tie me this time.
> The last two races were interesting. The first of those had us quite a
> bit behind the boat we had tied with in the first series and they were
> almost at the finish line. But they were stopped. We were sailing on
> their line and could have rammed their transom but just waved as we
> sailed by. We were first boat across the line. For calibration, every
> boat in our fleet owes us time and that boat owes us 78 seconds per
> mile. This last race was also strange. The course was almost two
> reaching legs. On the more downwind leg we basically rode the wake of
> the C&C-41 going 7 to 8 knots all the way with a 130 jib. Back was
> more upwind at 6-7 knots. Wind was 7 knots to 25 knots during the
> race. By the finish, we were up with 3 other 41 foot boats just 30
> seconds behind the lead boat. Just 20 seconds behind the C&C-41. The
> closest boat from the rest of the fleet was a J-30 which was 3 minutes
> back. They owe us just 9 seconds per mile.
>
>
>
Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose update
ccampbell2019-08-23 13:40 UTC
On 8/22/2019 5:07 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com [Cal_Boats] wrote:
>
>
> somehow there's a glitch in the Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com website that
> spits out anything I post independently, but not replies to other's
> posts.
Actually, I did get the original posting, Gerry.
Chris Campbell
RE: [Cal_Boats] Papoose update
Charlie Husar2019-08-23 16:17 UTC
As your humble moderator, I was about to send Jerry a note asking if his list problems were in the rear view mirror.
Take Care
Charlie
Annapolis
Multiple Cals
From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 9:40 AM
To: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Gerald Sobel <so… [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Papoose update
On 8/22/2019 5:07 PM, Gerald Sobel so… [at] yahoo.com <mailto:so… [at] yahoo.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote:
somehow there's a glitch in the Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com <mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> website that spits out anything I post independently, but not replies to other's posts.
Actually, I did get the original posting, Gerry.
Chris Campbell