Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum [1 Attachment]

Charlie, The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. Hope this info helps... Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously sailed: "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: [Attachment(s) from Charlie Husar included below] Hi, All. I�ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum I appreciate everyone's input. I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). I've already requested the download from Yahoo. Hopefully, it will come through. Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. calsailors.com Mary On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36.com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers. If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. Allen Lapworth-36 #5 On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I�ve been reading and other observations. We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? I�m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine � Cal 40)? For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. Take Care Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org> Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing Hi All, I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. Mary On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: http://vintagehifi.net/ I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, Martha C 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! 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All Cals are now CALs on the forum! You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the other more broad sections. Mary On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >  > Charlie, > The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta > more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the > Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and > production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were > soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A > few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I > believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL > 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL > 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the > 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the > new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced > starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by > then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to > Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group > of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 > after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction > soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in > nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, > except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 > (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA > slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds > were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL > is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. > > Hope this info helps... > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > previously sailed: "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: > > > > Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and > mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. > > For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull > number and see where your boat was built. > > At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. > > At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond > Hunt. > > Take Care > > Charlie > > Annapolis > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM > *To:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> > *Cc:* 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > > > I appreciate everyone's input. > > I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that > people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is > very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle > everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let > me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. > > If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put > a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that > expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate > (so the site is secure). > > I've already requested the download from Yahoo. Hopefully, it will come > through. > > Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under > "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only > tested it myself, so please help me test it. > > Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info > and photos. > > calsailors.com > > Mary > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com > <al… [at] gmail.com>> wrote: > > A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, > engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and > cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing > Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for > this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right > choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for > obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then > threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36..com for a > few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. > > 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult > it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That > apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. > Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is > basically impossible. > > 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers.. If they get through, > they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be > deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if > it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer > 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read > things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work > either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" > and have yet to have anybody get through it. > > Allen > > Lapworth-36 #5 > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading > and other observations. > > We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? > > I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be > able to take this on if I have trouble? > > Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., > engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, > Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? > > For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL > 33, or a Cal 33? > > The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. > > Take Care > > Charlie Husar > > Annapolis, MD > > Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator > > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM > *To:* ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org <cc… [at] lsnm.org>> > *Cc:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing > > > > Hi All, > > I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it > is ready. > > Mary > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > > On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this > group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. > > Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that > it seems creepy. > > Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum > dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA > console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to > access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no > resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: > > http://vintagehifi.net/ > > I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that > it's a breeze to use. > > Chris Campbell > > Cal 20 #1220, *Martha C* > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy!* > Celebrity Local > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc > [image: SponsoredBy Content.Ad] > > >

So, How about the Cal 9.2 - think it was 1981-?. That was the Ron H design. Nick > On October 18, 2019 at 5:53 PM "rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > Charlie, > The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. > > Hope this info helps... > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > previously sailed: "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. > > > > > > > > For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. > > > > > > > > At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. > > > > > > > > At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. > > > > > > > > Take Care > > > > Charlie > > > > Annapolis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM > > To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> > > Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I appreciate everyone's input. > > > > > > > > > > I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. > > > > > > > > > > If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). > > > > > > > > > > I've already requested the download from Yahoo. Hopefully, it will come through. > > > > > > > > > > Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. > > > > > > > > http://calsailors.com > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com mailto:al… [at] gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36..com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. > > > > > > 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. > > > > > > 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers.. If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Allen > > > > > > Lapworth-36 #5 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading and other observations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Care > > > > > > > > Charlie Husar > > > > > > > > Annapolis, MD > > > > > > > > Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ] > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM > > > > To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org > > > > > Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com ; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com mailto:tr… [at] gmail.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com mailto:tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. > > > > > > > > > > Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: > > > > > > > > > > http://vintagehifi.net/ > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. > > > > > > > > > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > > Cal 20 #1220, Martha C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! > Celebrity Local > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc > [SponsoredBy Content.Ad] > > > > >

I just posted a poll on the forum. Go ahead and vote for the proper spelling of the CAL versions. Thank you, Mary On Oct 18, 2019, 16:03 -0700, NICK GEISZ ng… [at] comcast.net [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>, wrote: > So, How about the Cal 9.2 - think it was 1981-?. That was the Ron H design. > Nick > > On October 18, 2019 at 5:53 PM "rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Charlie, > > The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. > > > > Hope this info helps... > > > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > > 1979 O'DAY DS II > > previously sailed: "NODROG" > > 1970 CAL 21 > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" < Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: > > > > > > > > > Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. > > > > > > For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. > > > > > > At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. > > > > > > At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. > > > > > > Take Care > > > Charlie > > > Annapolis > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM > > > To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> > > > Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I appreciate everyone's input. > > > > > > > > > I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. > > > > > > > > > If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). > > > > > > > > > I've already requested the download from Yahoo. Hopefully, it will come through. > > > > > > > > > Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. > > > > > > > > > Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. > > > > > > > > > calsailors.com > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > > A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36..com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. > > > > 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. > > > > 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers.. If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Allen > > > > Lapworth-36 #5 > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading and other observations. > > > > > > > > > > We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? > > > > > > > > > > I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? > > > > > > > > > > Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? > > > > > > > > > > For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? > > > > > > > > > > The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. > > > > > > > > > > Take Care > > > > > Charlie Husar > > > > > Annapolis, MD > > > > > Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM > > > > > To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org> > > > > > Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. > > > > > > Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: > > > > > > http://vintagehifi.net/ > > > > > > I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. > > > > > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > Cal 20 #1220, Martha C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! > > Celebrity Local > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc > > > > >

Thanks Mary!! Jimmy Schools - Sent from my iPhone 757 771-1586 > On Oct 18, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > >  > All Cals are now CALs on the forum! > > You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. > > While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. > > This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the other more broad sections. > > Mary > > > >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >>  >> >> Charlie, >> The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. >> >> Hope this info helps... >> >> Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >> 1979 O'DAY DS II >> previously sailed: "NODROG" >> 1970 CAL 21 >> >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: >> >> Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. >> >> For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. >> >> At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. >> >> At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. >> >> Take Care >> >> Charlie >> >> Annapolis >> >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM >> To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> >> Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum >> >> >> >> >> >> I appreciate everyone's input. >> >> I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. >> >> If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). >> >> I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come through. >> >> Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. >> >> Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. >> >> calsailors.com >> >> Mary >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: >> >> A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36...com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. >> >> 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. >> >> 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. >> >> Allen >> >> Lapworth-36 #5 >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading and other observations. >> >> We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? >> >> I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? >> >> Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? >> >> For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? >> >> The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. >> >> Take Care >> >> Charlie Husar >> >> Annapolis, MD >> >> Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator >> >> From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM >> To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org> >> Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing >> >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. >> >> Mary >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: >> >> On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> >> I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. >> >> Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. >> >> Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: >> >> http://vintagehifi.net/ >> >> I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. >> >> Chris Campbell >> >> Cal 20 #1220, Martha C >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! >> Celebrity Local >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc >> > >

Mary - I have seen on the yahoo list that people have posted on the new list yet I have not gotten any notifications of their posts from the new site. What I don't think any of us want is just to see posts regarding our own boat size/style. I don't know if this is what is happening or if I've done something wrong when I joined the new group. Please advise and thank you so much for taking this task on!! Cheers! Paul WestAdventure KwestCal 39 MK III From: Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> To: rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Cc: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum All Cals are now CALs on the forum! You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the other more broad sections. Mary On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Charlie,The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. Hope this info helps... Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD"1979 O'DAY DS IIpreviously sailed: "NODROG"1970 CAL 21 On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum I appreciate everyone's input. I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come through. Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. calsailors.com Mary On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36...com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. Allen Lapworth-36 #5 On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading and other observations. We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. Take Care Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org> Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing Hi All, I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. Mary On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: http://vintagehifi.net/ I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, Martha C 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! Celebrity Local http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc

Hi Paul, If you would like to get notifications from the forum (its not a list anymore, its a forum) please go over to https://calsailors.com and register yourself an account. If you would like to get notifications when people post, you can change your settings on the forum. You'll need to go to the forum that you want to subscribe to and click the little wrench icon, then click "Subscribe forum". I hope that helps. Mary [image: Screen Shot 2019-10-19 at 11.01.03 AM.png] On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:52 AM <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > Mary - > > I have seen on the yahoo list that people have posted on the new list yet > I have not gotten any notifications of their posts from the new site. What > I don't think any of us want is just to see posts regarding our own boat > size/style. I don't know if this is what is happening or if I've done > something wrong when I joined the new group. > > Please advise and thank you so much for taking this task on!! > > Cheers! > > Paul West > Adventure Kwest > Cal 39 MK III > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > To: rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > Cc: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > All Cals are now CALs on the forum! > > You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure > which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 > or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and > let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. > > While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing > boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the > purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat > in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring > a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to > fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. > > This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the > other more broad sections. > > Mary > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >  > Charlie, > The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta > more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the > Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and > production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were > soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A > few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I > believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL > 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL > 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the > 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the > new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced > starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by > then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to > Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group > of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 > after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction > soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in > nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, > except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 > (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA > slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds > were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL > is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. > > Hope this info helps... > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > 1979 O'DAY DS II > previously sailed: "NODROG" > 1970 CAL 21 > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: > > > Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and > mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. > For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull > number and see where your boat was built. > At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. > At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond > Hunt. > Take Care > Charlie > Annapolis > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM > *To:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> > *Cc:* 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < > Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > > I appreciate everyone's input. > I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that > people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is > very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle > everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let > me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. > If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put > a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that > expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate > (so the site is secure). > I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come > through. > Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under > "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only > tested it myself, so please help me test it. > Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info > and photos. > calsailors.com > Mary > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com > <al… [at] gmail.com>> wrote: > > A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, > engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and > cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing > Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for > this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right > choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for > obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then > threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36...com for a > few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. > 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult > it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That > apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. > Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is > basically impossible. > 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, > they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be > deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if > it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer > 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read > things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work > either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" > and have yet to have anybody get through it. > Allen > Lapworth-36 #5 > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com > [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading > and other observations. > We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? > I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be > able to take this on if I have trouble? > Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., > engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, > Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? > For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL > 33, or a Cal 33? > The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. > Take Care > Charlie Husar > Annapolis, MD > Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator > *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM > *To:* ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org <cc… [at] lsnm.org>> > *Cc:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing > > > Hi All, > I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it > is ready. > Mary > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > > On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this > group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. > > Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that > it seems creepy. > Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum > dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA > console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to > access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no > resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: > http://vintagehifi.net/ > I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that > it's a breeze to use. > Chris Campbell > Cal 20 #1220, *Martha C* > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy!* > Celebrity Local > <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc > [image: SponsoredBy Content.Ad] > > > >

Paul, to answer your question about seeing just your own model of boat.. not to worry. There are places to post *photos only *of boats by model, but the rest of the forum is for discussing any and all of the models. By sharing photos of boats by their specific model, users can easily peruse photos of the boat they are interested in. It is a way to keep them more organized and easy to find. You can also post photos in other areas of the forum. It would make no sense to only have access to one kind of boat. Take a look at the forum and post any suggestions in the "suggestions" forum. Thanks! Mary On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 11:02 AM Mary Macdonald <ma… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > If you would like to get notifications from the forum (its not a list > anymore, its a forum) please go over to https://calsailors.com and > register yourself an account. If you would like to get notifications when > people post, you can change your settings on the forum. You'll need to go > to the forum that you want to subscribe to and click the little wrench > icon, then click "Subscribe forum". I hope that helps. > > Mary > [image: Screen Shot 2019-10-19 at 11.01.03 AM.png] > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:52 AM <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > >> Mary - >> >> I have seen on the yahoo list that people have posted on the new list yet >> I have not gotten any notifications of their posts from the new site. What >> I don't think any of us want is just to see posts regarding our own boat >> size/style. I don't know if this is what is happening or if I've done >> something wrong when I joined the new group. >> >> Please advise and thank you so much for taking this task on!! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Paul West >> Adventure Kwest >> Cal 39 MK III >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> To: rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> Cc: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com> >> Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum >> >> >> All Cals are now CALs on the forum! >> >> You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure >> which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 >> or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and >> let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. >> >> While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing >> boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the >> purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat >> in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring >> a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to >> fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. >> >> This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the >> other more broad sections. >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >>  >> Charlie, >> The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta >> more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the >> Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and >> production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were >> soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A >> few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I >> believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL >> 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL >> 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the >> 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the >> new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced >> starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by >> then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to >> Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group >> of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 >> after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction >> soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in >> nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, >> except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 >> (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA >> slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds >> were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL >> is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. >> >> Hope this info helps... >> >> Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >> 1979 O'DAY DS II >> previously sailed: "NODROG" >> 1970 CAL 21 >> >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: >> >> >> Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and >> mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. >> For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull >> number and see where your boat was built. >> At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. >> At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by >> Raymond Hunt. >> Take Care >> Charlie >> Annapolis >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM >> *To:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> >> *Cc:* 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum >> >> >> >> I appreciate everyone's input. >> I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that >> people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is >> very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle >> everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let >> me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. >> If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put >> a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that >> expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate >> (so the site is secure). >> I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come >> through. >> Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under >> "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only >> tested it myself, so please help me test it. >> Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info >> and photos. >> calsailors.com >> Mary >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com >> <al… [at] gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, >> engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and >> cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing >> Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for >> this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right >> choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for >> obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then >> threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36...com for a >> few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. >> 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult >> it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That >> apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. >> Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is >> basically impossible. >> 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, >> they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be >> deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if >> it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer >> 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read >> things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work >> either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" >> and have yet to have anybody get through it. >> Allen >> Lapworth-36 #5 >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading >> and other observations. >> We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? >> I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be >> able to take this on if I have trouble? >> Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., >> engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, >> Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? >> For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL >> 33, or a Cal 33? >> The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. >> Take Care >> Charlie Husar >> Annapolis, MD >> Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM >> *To:* ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org <cc… [at] lsnm.org>> >> *Cc:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing >> >> >> Hi All, >> I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it >> is ready. >> Mary >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: >> >> On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> >> I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this >> group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. >> >> Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that >> it seems creepy. >> Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum >> dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA >> console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to >> access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no >> resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: >> http://vintagehifi.net/ >> I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that >> it's a breeze to use. >> Chris Campbell >> Cal 20 #1220, *Martha C* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> *1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy!* >> Celebrity Local >> <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc >> [image: SponsoredBy Content.Ad] >> >> >> >>

Mary: I tried to register but it said I used an invalid user name. What might I be doing wrong? On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:03, Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com<mailto:ma… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Hi Paul, If you would like to get notifications from the forum (its not a list anymore, its a forum) please go over to https://calsailors.com and register yourself an account. If you would like to get notifications when people post, you can change your settings on the forum. You'll need to go to the forum that you want to subscribe to and click the little wrench icon, then click "Subscribe forum". I hope that helps. Mary <Screen Shot 2019-10-19 at 11.01.03 AM.png> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:52 AM <pw… [at] aol.com<mailto:pw… [at] aol.com>> wrote: Mary - I have seen on the yahoo list that people have posted on the new list yet I have not gotten any notifications of their posts from the new site. What I don't think any of us want is just to see posts regarding our own boat size/style. I don't know if this is what is happening or if I've done something wrong when I joined the new group. Please advise and thank you so much for taking this task on!! Cheers! Paul West Adventure Kwest Cal 39 MK III From: Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com<mailto:ma… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> To: rj… [at] juno.com<mailto:rj… [at] juno.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Cc: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com>> Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum All Cals are now CALs on the forum! You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the other more broad sections. Mary On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com<mailto:rj… [at] juno.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote:  Charlie, The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. Hope this info helps... Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" 1979 O'DAY DS II previously sailed: "NODROG" 1970 CAL 21 On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> writes: Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. Take Care Charlie Annapolis From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com<mailto:al… [at] gmail.com>> Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum I appreciate everyone's input. I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come through. Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. calsailors.com<http://calsailors.com> Mary On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com<mailto:al… [at] gmail.com>> wrote: A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36....com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. Allen Lapworth-36 #5 On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com<mailto:hu… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading and other observations. We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. Take Care Charlie Husar Annapolis, MD Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org>> Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com<mailto:tr… [at] gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing Hi All, I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. Mary On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org<mailto:cc… [at] lsnm.org>> wrote: On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com<mailto:tr… [at] gmail.com> [Cal_Boats] wrote: I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: http://vintagehifi.net/ I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. Chris Campbell Cal 20 #1220, Martha C 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! Celebrity Local <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc>http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc<http://thirdpartyoffers.juno..com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc> [SponsoredBy Content.Ad]

Where is the little wrench? (want to subscribe) On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 3:52 PM 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Mary: > > I tried to register but it said I used an invalid user name. What might I > be doing wrong? > > Sent from my iPad > > On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:03, Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] > <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Paul, > > If you would like to get notifications from the forum (its not a list > anymore, its a forum) please go over to https://calsailors.com and > register yourself an account. If you would like to get notifications when > people post, you can change your settings on the forum. You'll need to go > to the forum that you want to subscribe to and click the little wrench > icon, then click "Subscribe forum". I hope that helps. > > Mary > <Screen Shot 2019-10-19 at 11.01.03 AM.png> > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:52 AM <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > >> Mary - >> >> I have seen on the yahoo list that people have posted on the new list yet >> I have not gotten any notifications of their posts from the new site. What >> I don't think any of us want is just to see posts regarding our own boat >> size/style. I don't know if this is what is happening or if I've done >> something wrong when I joined the new group. >> >> Please advise and thank you so much for taking this task on!! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Paul West >> Adventure Kwest >> Cal 39 MK III >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> To: rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> Cc: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com> >> Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm >> Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum >> >> >> All Cals are now CALs on the forum! >> >> You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure >> which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 >> or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and >> let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. >> >> While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing >> boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the >> purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat >> in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring >> a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to >> fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. >> >> This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the >> other more broad sections. >> >> Mary >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >>  >> Charlie, >> The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta >> more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the >> Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and >> production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were >> soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A >> few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I >> believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL >> 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL >> 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the >> 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the >> new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced >> starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by >> then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to >> Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group >> of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 >> after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction >> soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in >> nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, >> except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 >> (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA >> slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds >> were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL >> is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. >> >> Hope this info helps... >> >> Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" >> 1979 O'DAY DS II >> previously sailed: "NODROG" >> 1970 CAL 21 >> >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: >> >> >> Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and >> mutations built through 1984. Not sure if the file will make it. >> For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull >> number and see where your boat was built. >> At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. >> At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by >> Raymond Hunt. >> Take Care >> Charlie >> Annapolis >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM >> *To:* Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> >> *Cc:* 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] < >> Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum >> >> >> >> I appreciate everyone's input. >> I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that >> people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is >> very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle >> everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let >> me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. >> If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put >> a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that >> expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate >> (so the site is secure). >> I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come >> through. >> Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under >> "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only >> tested it myself, so please help me test it. >> Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info >> and photos. >> calsailors.com >> Mary >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com >> <al… [at] gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, >> engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and >> cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing >> Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for >> this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right >> choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for >> obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then >> threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36....com for a >> few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. >> 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult >> it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That >> apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. >> Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is >> basically impossible. >> 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, >> they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be >> deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if >> it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer >> 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read >> things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work >> either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" >> and have yet to have anybody get through it. >> Allen >> Lapworth-36 #5 >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com >> [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: >> >> >> Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading >> and other observations. >> We have over 1,000 members as I recall. Is size a problem? >> I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be >> able to take this on if I have trouble? >> Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., >> engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, >> Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? >> For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL >> 33, or a Cal 33? >> The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. >> Take Care >> Charlie Husar >> Annapolis, MD >> Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator >> *From:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM >> *To:* ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org <cc… [at] lsnm.org>> >> *Cc:* Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing >> >> >> Hi All, >> I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it >> is ready. >> Mary >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: >> >> On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: >> >> I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this >> group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. >> >> Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that >> it seems creepy. >> Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum >> dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA >> console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to >> access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no >> resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: >> http://vintagehifi.net/ >> I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that >> it's a breeze to use. >> Chris Campbell >> Cal 20 #1220, *Martha C* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> *1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy!* >> Celebrity Local >> <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc >> <http://thirdpartyoffers.juno..com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc> >> [image: SponsoredBy Content.Ad] >> >> >> > -- Thomas Brooks 253-431-6694

Tom, after you register on https://calsailors.com you can click on a topic you want to follow and then scroll down to see the little wrench. You can also simply check the website and see what’s new. Mary On Oct 19, 2019, 21:30 -0700, Tom Brooks ja… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com>, wrote: > Where is the little wrench? (want to subscribe) > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 3:52 PM 'Philip A. Lewis' ph… [at] phillewis.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > Mary: > > > > > > I tried to register but it said I used an invalid user name. What might I be doing wrong? > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > On Oct 19, 2019, at 11:03, Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > > > If you would like to get notifications from the forum (its not a list anymore, its a forum) please go over to https://calsailors.com and register yourself an account. If you would like to get notifications when people post, you can change your settings on the forum. You'll need to go to the forum that you want to subscribe to and click the little wrench icon, then click "Subscribe forum". I hope that helps. > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > <Screen Shot 2019-10-19 at 11.01.03 AM.png> > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:52 AM <pw… [at] aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > Mary - > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen on the yahoo list that people have posted on the new list yet I have not gotten any notifications of their posts from the new site. What I don't think any of us want is just to see posts regarding our own boat size/style. I don't know if this is what is happening or if I've done something wrong when I joined the new group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise and thank you so much for taking this task on!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > Paul West > > > > > > Adventure Kwest > > > > > > Cal 39 MK III > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Mary Macdonald ma… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > To: rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > Cc: Charlie Husar <hu… [at] gmail.com> > > > > > > Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:13 pm > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All Cals are now CALs on the forum! > > > > > > > > > > > > You guys have all this fantastic info about CAL models, but I am not sure which is the right way to spell them. For instance, is it CAL 3-34 or 34-3 or 34-III or 34 III ?? If anyone wants to take a look at the forum list and let me know how to correctly list them, I'd like to make it correct. > > > > > > > > > > > > While we're at it.. I understand there is some disagreement on listing boat models separately. Do you like the idea of having them listed for the purpose of posting photos only? I think it would be great to go to the boat in question and see a bunch of photos all in the same place. I'm restoring a boat, and I am often curious how something looked originally, or how to fix something, or how someone else improved or modified theirs. > > > > > > > > > > > > This section is only for photos, so all the other info will go into the other more broad sections. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:53 PM rj… [at] juno.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Charlie, > > > > > > > The CR Hunt Associates Designed CALs started to appear after Bangor-Punta more or less merged CAL Boats with O'DAY, around 1980-82. At that time the Costa Mesa, CA and Marlboro, NJ plants were apparently closed and production moved to Florida (Tampa?), the Business Offices for CAL were soon moved to Fall River, MA into the O'DAY Production Facility there. A few years later it seems that most production also moved to Fall River. I believe the first Hunt-Associates-Desgned CAL was the "CAL 24", aka "CAL 24-2" introduced in 1983, and the last Lapworth-Designed CAL, the CAL 27-III was introduced in 1983 as well.. The Lapworth CALs (other than the 27-III) seem to have been phased out within the next couple years, and the new CRH-Designed CAL 22, CAL 28, and CAL 33 (aka: CAL 33-2) were introduced starting in 1985. The Hunt-Designed CAL 39 followed in 1987, however, by then CAL-O'DAY was slipping away as Bangor-Punta Marine sold the company to Lear-Siegler around late 1984, and Lear-Siegler sold the company to a group of investors around 1987-88. CAL-O'DAY fell into bankruptcy in May 1989 after struggling for the past year or more, the assets were sold at auction soon after with some of the production being bought by PEARSON YACHTS in nearby Portsmouth, RI. I don't think PEARSON actually built any CALS, except they did "tweak" the CAL 28-2 design to create the O'DAY 290 (basically added a swim platform/sugar-scoop to the transom increasing LOA slightly. PEARSON folded in February 1991, it is rumored that the CAL molds were purchased by a Group called "Little Compton Yachts" but only one CAL is known to have been built by them ,a single (updated) CAL 33 around 1996. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this info helps... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rod Johnson, "SUNBIRD" > > > > > > > 1979 O'DAY DS II > > > > > > > previously sailed: "NODROG" > > > > > > > 1970 CAL 21 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 05:59:41 -0400 "'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats]" <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, All. I’ve attached a file of different CAL models and variants and mutations built through 1984.. Not sure if the file will make it. > > > > > > > > For a while, CALs were built on both coasts. You could look at the hull number and see where your boat was built. > > > > > > > > At some point, Jensen was gone and Bangor Punta was doing the production. > > > > > > > > At some point Bill Lapworth retired, and the CALs were designed by Raymond Hunt. > > > > > > > > Take Care > > > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > > Annapolis > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 10:31 PM > > > > > > > > To: Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> > > > > > > > > Cc: 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] A New Cal Forum > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I appreciate everyone's input. > > > > > > > > I believe it would be nice to have specific model categories so that people can post photos of their configurations. For instance, the layout is very different in my 3-34 from a 2-34. Other categories can handle everything else. If I left a model out or typed it incorrectly, please let me know. These things can be changed if they don't work out. > > > > > > > > If the site becomes too busy for my server, I will have to upgrade. I put a link on the site for donations under "Suggestions". Its not that expensive. I have spent around $100 so far including the SSL certificate (so the site is secure). > > > > > > > > I've already requested the download from Yahoo.. Hopefully, it will come through. > > > > > > > > Please sign up on the website and share feedback and suggestions under "Suggestions" on the forum. There may be usability issues. I have only tested it myself, so please help me test it. > > > > > > > > Thanks! I look forward to having an excellent forum with great Cal info and photos. > > > > > > > > calsailors.com > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:51 PM Allen Edwards <al… [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > A few points. 1) there is overlap between models for most topics, engines, racing, general interest that having separate tabs for cal-20 and cal-22 seems like the wrong way to go. Look at the tabs on the Sailing Anarchy for some guidance. Maintenance, Gear, Racing. I would think for this group, just a few categories or maybe only one would be the right choice. If you do make everything by model number, I am out of here for obvious reasons.. I am thinking a very minimum number of topics and then threads within each topic would be best. I ran a forum on L-36....com for a few years but it didn't take off. PHP 7 upgrade killed it. > > > > > > > > > 2) I read that getting the old data off the Yahoo server is so difficult it seems impossible unless you requires a dump of the entire site. That apparently takes 30 days for the request so you might want to get on that.. Otherwise you have to download things one item at a time, which is basically impossible. > > > > > > > > > 3) You need to put up something to stop spammers... If they get through, they can put up hundreds of messages at once and they all have to be deleted one at a time. I used the question "What color is a fire truck if it isn't yellow?" I found that if you say what is 2 + 2 the bot will answer 4. And any question with the answer in it doesn't work. Those hard to read things where you have to type something after trying to read it don't work either. Right now I use "What color is yellow snow if it isn't white?" and have yet to have anybody get through it. > > > > > > > > > Allen > > > > > > > > > Lapworth-36 #5 > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:16 PM 'Charlie Husar' hu… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] <Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mary, thank you so much. A few notes based on the mail I’ve been reading and other observations. > > > > > > > > > > We have over 1,000 members as I recall.. Is size a problem? > > > > > > > > > > I’m looking at how to do a dump of what we have on Yahoo. Might you be able to take this on if I have trouble? > > > > > > > > > > Members seem divided on whether we want functional categories (e.g., engines, hull maintenance) or boat model based categories (e.g., Cal 20, Cal 25, Cal 40). Would a cross matrix be possible (e.g., engine – Cal 40)? > > > > > > > > > > For proper terminology is one of our boats a CAL 20 or a Cal 20? A CAL 33, or a Cal 33? > > > > > > > > > > The members are not divided in their thanks for your efforts. > > > > > > > > > > Take Care > > > > > > > > > > Charlie Husar > > > > > > > > > > Annapolis, MD > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo Cal_Boats Moderator > > > > > > > > > > From: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com [mailto:Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:06 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm..org> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: Ca… [at] yahoogroups.com; Troy Zea <tr… [at] gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Cal_Boats] Re: Yahoo groups closing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I'm setting up a new forum for us to use. I'll send an email out when it is ready. > > > > > > > > > > Mary > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM ccampbell <cc… [at] lsnm.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/16/2019 9:52 PM, Troy Zea tr… [at] gmail.com [Cal_Boats] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I also have a cal 34 mkIII. I have all kinds of trouble accessing this group. I think its because I don't Yahoo correctly. Face Book would be nice. > > > > > > > > > > > Please, let's not move to Facebook. I avoid that system on grounds that it seems creepy. > > > > > > > > > > > Most of us probably have a bunch of other odd interests.. I'm on a forum dealing with old console radio/phonos--the big old Magnavox, Zenith, or RCA console that used to grace living rooms. It is by far the easiest to access and use of any I've encountered. Posting photos is a click away--no resizing or other manipulations required. Here's a link: > > > > > > > > > > > http://vintagehifi.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing about how it's hosted or anything else but I do know that it's a breeze to use. > > > > > > > > > > > Chris Campbell > > > > > > > > > > > Cal 20 #1220, Martha C > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > 1 Cup of This (Before Bed) Burns Belly Fat Like Crazy! > > > > > > > Celebrity Local > > > > > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3142/5daa341a55ec8341a3ab9st02duc > > > > > > > > > -- > Thomas Brooks > 253-431-6694 > > >